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To avoid Muslim friend

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cumbriaisbest · 30/06/2025 17:48

I can't stand listenting to it any more.Tatbir, Gaza and so on. Unrelenting pain.
In addition.....
Where do I go when I die ( as a non believer?)
Where will my gay son go?

I say this as somebody who has worked in community projects and is passionately against racism.

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Zanina · 02/07/2025 06:23

It's unpleasant being judged and singled out all the time. The fact that you sent a terrorist list just shows you judge islam and muslims as terrorists. You do realise there's bad people of all walks of life who do bad things in the name of politics, misogyny and religion? Do I need to send a list of how many people the UK & USA killed in the name of weapons thay didnt exist but stole natural resources whilst they were at it? As if that's not terrorism? As soon as I said coloniser mindset you've got your back up? You are expecting us to quietly take the criticism when there's actual double standards. But im not supposed to get my back up when we are being judged left right and centre? I never said we are pure and perfect, but we are being scapegoated for one reason or another and being held to a different standard. If YOU are allowed to have opinions, then so are we. If YOU can have prejudice against minorities, then we should be allowed to have prejudice against everyone else.

Clockworksparrow · 01/07/2025 23:11

Zanina · 01/07/2025 22:19

Fucking coloniser mindset. If people aren't the exactly the same as you, they must be a problem. They must conform or be punished. Happy to sweep over the big fucking crimes white people have committed, but islam and muslims are supposedly the problem every time. Look closer at your own fucking community. So much abuse happening behind closed doors by "civilised people".

This is getting very unpleasant. And 'coloniser mindset' is an ironic thing to say given the history of Islam.

The tens of thousands of terror attacks don't exactly say 'minding our own business', either.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Islamist_terrorist_attacks

Maybe that's why people don't have 'the balls' to openly criticise what frankly walks and quacks like an aggressive supremacist movement with a side order of misogyny.

Maybe this is a goady thread, I'm unclear on where the OP is coming from. But I object to an attitude like yours behaving like your community is purer than pure while positively dripping with hostility to those around you.

List of Islamist terrorist attacks - Wikipedia

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Islamist_terrorist_attacks

Morgenrot25 · 01/07/2025 22:39

Zanina · 01/07/2025 22:32

Oh fuck off. You poke and prod and then cry victim when there's a response which involves holding a mirror up to you. Making a counter point is not hate. My whole life has gone being told im not enough. Not enough for being brown. Not enough for being female. Not good enough for being muslim. It's always shit coming from racist people.

With all due respect, you're projecting.
I hope you can accept yourself for who you are, and all accept that others can have different views on religion, without resorting to swearing at them.
Also, nobody mentioned colour, I don't care what colour/shade you are, and you also don't know what colour/shade anyone else is. 🤔

Xcfsacs · 01/07/2025 22:39

Zanina · 01/07/2025 22:32

Oh fuck off. You poke and prod and then cry victim when there's a response which involves holding a mirror up to you. Making a counter point is not hate. My whole life has gone being told im not enough. Not enough for being brown. Not enough for being female. Not good enough for being muslim. It's always shit coming from racist people.

I'm sorry to hear what you've experienced. I have every respect for you and your beliefs.

Zanina · 01/07/2025 22:32

Morgenrot25 · 01/07/2025 22:25

Really interesting to observe where the genuinely hateful posts are coming from on this thread (clue - they're all in a row just above mine).

Oh fuck off. You poke and prod and then cry victim when there's a response which involves holding a mirror up to you. Making a counter point is not hate. My whole life has gone being told im not enough. Not enough for being brown. Not enough for being female. Not good enough for being muslim. It's always shit coming from racist people.

Morgenrot25 · 01/07/2025 22:28

Xcfsacs · 01/07/2025 22:25

You've not said anything at all to say how it's oppressive. I've spent some time learning and reading about Islam and all rights and protections women get.

If you read actual words on actual comments, you'll see I have.
I won't be engaging any further with you.

Xcfsacs · 01/07/2025 22:25

Morgenrot25 · 01/07/2025 22:22

Sigh.
I don't need to 'come up with anything' when there's no actual counter argument. 🫣

You've not said anything at all to say how it's oppressive. I've spent some time learning and reading about Islam and all rights and protections women get.

Morgenrot25 · 01/07/2025 22:25

Really interesting to observe where the genuinely hateful posts are coming from on this thread (clue - they're all in a row just above mine).

Morgenrot25 · 01/07/2025 22:22

Xcfsacs · 01/07/2025 12:01

Guess you couldn't come up with anything

Sigh.
I don't need to 'come up with anything' when there's no actual counter argument. 🫣

Zanina · 01/07/2025 22:19

Fucking coloniser mindset. If people aren't the exactly the same as you, they must be a problem. They must conform or be punished. Happy to sweep over the big fucking crimes white people have committed, but islam and muslims are supposedly the problem every time. Look closer at your own fucking community. So much abuse happening behind closed doors by "civilised people".

Zanina · 01/07/2025 22:13

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Zanina · 01/07/2025 22:02

When i was a kid in the 90s / 2000s it was white people gay bashing. Degrading and assualting them was acceptable. We also got a fuck tonne of racist abuse. It was white people doing it. Stop acting like your high and fucking mighty, you colonisers terrorised almost the whole fucking globe and didnt spare homosexuals.

Zanina · 01/07/2025 21:55

Am I now? You're not blind look around, muslims aren't bothering homosexuals and we aren't taught to either. Muslims are always getting bashed about all sorts. Halal food, belief, rules etc etc. When we just go about our day as everyone. Just fuck off with your opinions. Mind your own business. You need to take a closer look at yourselves, people like you think you're better and above anyone who isn't the same as you.

thethingthatshouldnotbee · 01/07/2025 21:30

Zanina · 01/07/2025 19:41

Funny how religion and sexuality are protected characteristics, yet Muslims are getting slated in support for homosexuality and God knows what else. The fact is a lot of you here just can't treat people with respect from the heart. We on the other hand are busy minding our own business and not harassing people who happen to be a tad bit different. Sick to death of this topic of bashing Muslims. Countless thread of bashing islam and muslims when it literally does not affect you. And if you can't handle a bit of conversation then you need to grow the fuck up

What do you mean "support for homosexuality and god knows what else"

KnittyNell · 01/07/2025 21:15

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Absolute crap, you’re just trying to hide the reality.

Zanina · 01/07/2025 19:41

Funny how religion and sexuality are protected characteristics, yet Muslims are getting slated in support for homosexuality and God knows what else. The fact is a lot of you here just can't treat people with respect from the heart. We on the other hand are busy minding our own business and not harassing people who happen to be a tad bit different. Sick to death of this topic of bashing Muslims. Countless thread of bashing islam and muslims when it literally does not affect you. And if you can't handle a bit of conversation then you need to grow the fuck up

Zanina · 01/07/2025 19:38

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Xcfsacs · 01/07/2025 12:01

Morgenrot25 · 01/07/2025 11:59

Sigh.

Guess you couldn't come up with anything

Morgenrot25 · 01/07/2025 11:59

Xcfsacs · 01/07/2025 09:57

Oh no a man wrote it. Let's forget that one of the man's wife deep knowledge of the books teachings and interpretations.

It also has rules on how men should behave.

Sigh.

Lmnop22 · 01/07/2025 10:07

nomas · 01/07/2025 09:26

Another one who hasn’t read the thread.

I’ve read the thread. She is fed up of having to having religious and/or political conversations with a Muslim friend. So the issue is with how tiresome her friend is and the fact she’s Muslim provided context because it was relevant to the specific annoying conversations she found herself having.

Not everything is a hate crime 😳

Thegreyhound · 01/07/2025 09:58

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Xcfsacs · 01/07/2025 09:57

Morgenrot25 · 01/07/2025 09:37

I'm really really surprised you didn't recognise the issues then.
Books written by men, telling women how to behave. 🫣

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Oh no a man wrote it. Let's forget that one of the man's wife deep knowledge of the books teachings and interpretations.

It also has rules on how men should behave.

Morgenrot25 · 01/07/2025 09:37

Xcfsacs · 01/07/2025 09:35

No I'm not. I've actually taken time to learn about it.

I'm really really surprised you didn't recognise the issues then.
Books written by men, telling women how to behave. 🫣

Morgenrot25 · 01/07/2025 09:36

cumbriaisbest · 01/07/2025 09:33

What on earth is wrong with you? Where is the phobia? I have no phobia of Muslims or the Muslim faith.
I am struggling with a situation.

Some posters seem determined to shout 'islamophobia' at every opportunity - it's pointless and does nothing to help oppressed women.

Xcfsacs · 01/07/2025 09:35

Morgenrot25 · 01/07/2025 09:31

You're being ironic, right? Pretty much every religion oppresses women. 🫣

No I'm not. I've actually taken time to learn about it.