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To back out of a child’s birthday

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TwinkleLittleBean · 30/06/2025 14:19

This is really hard! The birthday child has additional needs. Last year we went along for birthday and paid for 4 of us (hotel and theme park tickets).
This year it’s going abroad. To a place I know we’d love as a family, but it won’t be on our terms if we go round as a group - we’ll be following a lead.

When I was asked, the child was there and I couldn’t say no - it was a “let’s go to X”!!
The price/dates/DH taking time off work - my other DC is a bit too old for it.
It’s a few months away, but when do I start backing out?

It’s going to feel like I’m letting child with SEN, who thinks she might be going somewhere v special. I don’t think they’d go without us. They see my DC as - almost a sibling.

I wouldn’t dream of asking another family to spend £800+ to celebrate a birthday.
I think I’ll just have to say one DC too old, expense etc…ASAP!

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sarah419 · 02/07/2025 15:05

why on earth would you agree to this from the onset? also what happened to good old 2 hour long birthday parties..

Plumnora · 02/07/2025 09:47

You're definitely not being unreasonable! But you need to learn to say no! It was very bold of them to ask you to spend all that money and time so you are absolutely justified in saying an emphatic "NO!" with zero guilt attached!
As far as backing out goes, just be honest, tell them you can't afford it and you can't get the time off. And don't feel guilty about saying it. People appreciate directness and I'm sure they'll understand.

YerArseInParsley · 02/07/2025 02:34

TwinkleLittleBean · 01/07/2025 06:09

It’s just us as a family, and last time was a year ago for the previous birthday.

As to whether it’s a true friendship - it is, I generally works well and our children are best friends. However there is a dynamic of control/compliance. We are compliant as a family, including my DC. Are we happy in the friendship? Yes. But occasionally our compliance boundary gets pushed too far and this is an example - and I’ve given other examples.

I don’t think I can necessarily change to be assertive, as it’s just not me. I get a joy out of supporting, helping, volunteering etc.

And overall, if we went it would be a positive memorable experience - for both the children.

This is crazy. Where do u draw a line with this friend. I think u are a pushover.

Pluvia · 01/07/2025 22:29

I've been reading your responses, OP, and you seem utterly unable to say no to this family.

So how about saying 'I've investigated the costs and the amount of time we'd need off work to go to EuroDisney for Eric's birthday and I'm afraid it's not doable for us. Too expensive (the COL is hitting us hard) and neither of us can manage to book two days off work in October. But I think Eric might enjoy (find something suitable that your kids would enjoy too) and we could manage that.'

Reset their expectations before they want you al to go to Florida for his birthday next year.

Emmz1510 · 01/07/2025 21:17

Your title is rather misleading OP!
This isn’t about backing out of a birthday party. I thought you were going to say is it all right to pull out of party at the local grotty soft play because they won’t cater to my child’s dietary needs or the birthday kid is a brat who hits my child over the head and pelts him with ball pit balls all the time!
This is about a massively expensive trip abroad and hugely entitled parents with wildly unrealistic expectations.
Is suppose if this is ‘normal’ among you and you’ve done it before I can sort of see why they’d expect it again, but you seriously need to nip it in the bud pronto!

aredcar · 01/07/2025 21:15

TwinkleLittleBean · 01/07/2025 20:19

Yes I have contradicted myself! I think I can be authoritative when I need to be - say at work. But there is something about the dynamic of this relationship where I’m caught off guard, or saying ‘no’ would just cause an overly emotional reaction. In one recent meet up, I was asked to do about 5 or 6 different things - and I just said great! to each one, knowing that it probably wouldn’t materialise.

It’s strange, I actually think I am - in some ways - more in control rather than ‘abused’ because the ideas feel far fetched and imaginary. I feel more grounded in reality.

I’m often told a whole myriad of creative thoughts - which aren’t practical. It’s v yellow personality type!

Your friend sounds quite manipulative to me. She knows your weaknesses and uses emotional blackmail to exploit them. It’s not a healthy dynamic

Happyflower12345 · 01/07/2025 21:11

TwinkleLittleBean · 01/07/2025 20:19

Yes I have contradicted myself! I think I can be authoritative when I need to be - say at work. But there is something about the dynamic of this relationship where I’m caught off guard, or saying ‘no’ would just cause an overly emotional reaction. In one recent meet up, I was asked to do about 5 or 6 different things - and I just said great! to each one, knowing that it probably wouldn’t materialise.

It’s strange, I actually think I am - in some ways - more in control rather than ‘abused’ because the ideas feel far fetched and imaginary. I feel more grounded in reality.

I’m often told a whole myriad of creative thoughts - which aren’t practical. It’s v yellow personality type!

Avoiding doing something in your own best interests because it will cause a dramatic overemotional reaction doesn't sound like a healthy relationship with a friend. Of course we want to support those we care about, but you're not responsible for keeping your friends emotions stable. Your friend's child is SEN, that doesn't mean they're the priority over everything nor does it mean you can't say no to them or their parents. You choose how you act - if you maintain this dynamic remember you're choosing to do this.

godmum56 · 01/07/2025 20:21

TwinkleLittleBean · 01/07/2025 20:19

Yes I have contradicted myself! I think I can be authoritative when I need to be - say at work. But there is something about the dynamic of this relationship where I’m caught off guard, or saying ‘no’ would just cause an overly emotional reaction. In one recent meet up, I was asked to do about 5 or 6 different things - and I just said great! to each one, knowing that it probably wouldn’t materialise.

It’s strange, I actually think I am - in some ways - more in control rather than ‘abused’ because the ideas feel far fetched and imaginary. I feel more grounded in reality.

I’m often told a whole myriad of creative thoughts - which aren’t practical. It’s v yellow personality type!

then I would say that this relationship is damaging you and potentially your child and you need to withdraw from it. What is a "yellow personality"?

TwinkleLittleBean · 01/07/2025 20:19

Yes I have contradicted myself! I think I can be authoritative when I need to be - say at work. But there is something about the dynamic of this relationship where I’m caught off guard, or saying ‘no’ would just cause an overly emotional reaction. In one recent meet up, I was asked to do about 5 or 6 different things - and I just said great! to each one, knowing that it probably wouldn’t materialise.

It’s strange, I actually think I am - in some ways - more in control rather than ‘abused’ because the ideas feel far fetched and imaginary. I feel more grounded in reality.

I’m often told a whole myriad of creative thoughts - which aren’t practical. It’s v yellow personality type!

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Energywise · 01/07/2025 18:35

What a wet lettuce you are.

Harry12345 · 01/07/2025 15:57

Mumofsoontobe3 · 01/07/2025 07:14

I have a SEN child. I had immense guilt when he had a soft play party and some non invited older siblings came (absolutely no issue what's so ever, DC is welcoming regardless) and I felt bad parents had to pay for older kids to join in as they weren't accounted for in the party. Never mind a holiday abroad!!

That’s a whole new other thread lol, non invited siblings coming I find so so rude

MageQueen · 01/07/2025 13:10

TwinkleLittleBean · 01/07/2025 06:09

It’s just us as a family, and last time was a year ago for the previous birthday.

As to whether it’s a true friendship - it is, I generally works well and our children are best friends. However there is a dynamic of control/compliance. We are compliant as a family, including my DC. Are we happy in the friendship? Yes. But occasionally our compliance boundary gets pushed too far and this is an example - and I’ve given other examples.

I don’t think I can necessarily change to be assertive, as it’s just not me. I get a joy out of supporting, helping, volunteering etc.

And overall, if we went it would be a positive memorable experience - for both the children.

But you said it wouldn't be? That your DD would be having t accomodate this other chil the entire time?

If your child would enjoy it and you would enjoy it, fine. But if it's inconvenient, then don't.

Ilovelifeverymuch · 01/07/2025 13:10

TwinkleLittleBean · 01/07/2025 06:09

It’s just us as a family, and last time was a year ago for the previous birthday.

As to whether it’s a true friendship - it is, I generally works well and our children are best friends. However there is a dynamic of control/compliance. We are compliant as a family, including my DC. Are we happy in the friendship? Yes. But occasionally our compliance boundary gets pushed too far and this is an example - and I’ve given other examples.

I don’t think I can necessarily change to be assertive, as it’s just not me. I get a joy out of supporting, helping, volunteering etc.

And overall, if we went it would be a positive memorable experience - for both the children.

"I don’t think I can necessarily change to be assertive, as it’s just not me. I get a joy out of supporting, helping, volunteering etc."

So what's the point of this thread if you're resigned to a life of being compliant and never putting yourself first?

Phoenixfire1988 · 01/07/2025 09:38

Who takes kids abroad for a birthday party?absolutely bizarre behaviour and expecting others to come aswell then throwing a strop when they can't / wont is even stranger.
Having SEN is no excuse

MakeItToTheMoon · 01/07/2025 09:31

nomas · 01/07/2025 09:21

Your dc is learning how to behave from you. I would be role modelling assertiveness to her not going along with everything your friend says.

When you say your dc is compliant with her too that is really concerning.

Agree! Why should everyone tip toe around this parent? Your child will pick up on your energy and will model your behaviour. Even though they are friends I wonder how much your daughter gives in to the demands of the child when they play together. Your daughter seems very understanding but why do you tread so carefully around this parent? Is this a true friendship?

nomas · 01/07/2025 09:21

Your dc is learning how to behave from you. I would be role modelling assertiveness to her not going along with everything your friend says.

When you say your dc is compliant with her too that is really concerning.

KmcK87 · 01/07/2025 09:18

Assuming it’s just an invitation to tag along and not a summons? Just say you can’t make it for xyz reason?
I don’t necessarily think going abroad for a birthday and leaving an open invite for family to tag along if they wish is a bad thing btw, but you shouldn’t be feeling guilted into it.

DinaofCloud9 · 01/07/2025 09:14

Oh dear, your last comment is crazy.

Your poor child.

BuckChuckets · 01/07/2025 08:03

"I think I'm usually assertive"

"I don’t think I can necessarily change to be assertive, as it’s just not me."

OP, was one of these a typo? You're contradicting yourself.

YourFunnyTiger · 01/07/2025 08:01

Is the child likely to not have a long life? If so I'm guessing mum is trying to make lots of memories for them.

NImumconfused · 01/07/2025 07:51

InvitingMattress · 01/07/2025 07:40

Exactly this. I mean, you’ve put your child in danger because you can’t say no to a trip without a car seat. If there’s an accident, that’s on you.

Of course you can learn to say no. Do you really want your children to grow up as people-pleasers like you, unable to maintain boundaries, refuse, prioritise their own safety and well-being? What happens when they’re subject to peer pressure? When someone tries to do something sexual they don’t want?

Work on your assertiveness for their sake if not for your own. As the child of a chronic people-pleaser who taught her daughter to be equally compliant, (1) it’s not a good trait in any way and (2) it’s much harder to unpick those behaviours in adulthood when your parent/s have taught you to be compliant, that saying no isn’t an option, and that people will only like you if you’re compliant. Those are incredibly damaging behaviours to model, like chainsmoking around young children.

This. Compliance is not a good quality to teach your child, especially if they're a girl. It puts them at significantly more risk of being manipulated and exploited.

CherriesStrawberries · 01/07/2025 07:47

TwinkleLittleBean · 01/07/2025 06:09

It’s just us as a family, and last time was a year ago for the previous birthday.

As to whether it’s a true friendship - it is, I generally works well and our children are best friends. However there is a dynamic of control/compliance. We are compliant as a family, including my DC. Are we happy in the friendship? Yes. But occasionally our compliance boundary gets pushed too far and this is an example - and I’ve given other examples.

I don’t think I can necessarily change to be assertive, as it’s just not me. I get a joy out of supporting, helping, volunteering etc.

And overall, if we went it would be a positive memorable experience - for both the children.

I doubt your child considers this girl their best friend when they’re forced to be ‘compliant’ and do whatever the girl wants. You’re teaching your child to be a doormat and not have a voice. You need to become assertive and show your child how to be assertive.

InvitingMattress · 01/07/2025 07:40

TryingAgainAgainAgain · 01/07/2025 06:23

Surely you're at least conflicted about actively putting your DC in the position of being a 'compliant friend' because this friendship dynamic brings you joy? Don't you hope for healthier relationships for them?

You've even allowed your DC's safety to be compromised.

Exactly this. I mean, you’ve put your child in danger because you can’t say no to a trip without a car seat. If there’s an accident, that’s on you.

Of course you can learn to say no. Do you really want your children to grow up as people-pleasers like you, unable to maintain boundaries, refuse, prioritise their own safety and well-being? What happens when they’re subject to peer pressure? When someone tries to do something sexual they don’t want?

Work on your assertiveness for their sake if not for your own. As the child of a chronic people-pleaser who taught her daughter to be equally compliant, (1) it’s not a good trait in any way and (2) it’s much harder to unpick those behaviours in adulthood when your parent/s have taught you to be compliant, that saying no isn’t an option, and that people will only like you if you’re compliant. Those are incredibly damaging behaviours to model, like chainsmoking around young children.

DedododoDedadada · 01/07/2025 07:39

That's crazy who would expect family to pay to go on holiday for a child birthday.

godmum56 · 01/07/2025 07:33

" However there is a dynamic of control/compliance. We are compliant as a family, including my DC."
As soon as you have said this, its not an equal friendship......and the joy you get from helping, volunteering and so on doesn't mean that it includes feeling bad because a friend's child is upset or that friend using your child as a companion for hers. Why could they not take the holiday on their own?
Your situation is all kinds of batshit wrong. Wrong for you and a terrible example for your child, bringing them up modelling that its their duty in life to be used.
I think kindly that you are making excuses. You can be assertive and have boundaries and still be a helpful and supportive person.