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AIBU to think I have no liability here? (diagram attached)

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WiggyClawsThe2nd · 30/06/2025 12:46

I think I'm fairly sure on this but can't stop panicking so I thought I'd ask on here.
Friday night I had a car accident. It was a real shock and it's only now that I've stopped to think about it that I'm feeling really really cross.
In the diagram I'm the blue line, the other driver is the green line. The thick lines show where we went, the thin lines indicate where you would have expected us to be going. Given that the lady tried to tell me she'd been going straight on when obviously she didn't makes me wonder if she had a mad moment!
Anyway, this particular roundabout leads onto a bridge over a dual carriageway. On the other side of this bridge you can go left onto a local road, or right to join the dual carriageway.
When we joined the roundabout, the other car was to my left. Neither of us indicated before joining the roundabout, however I did indicate left after I passed the 1st left exit as I was planning to go over the bridge and turn right to join the duel carriageway. As I was about to leave the roundabout the lady turned in front of me to head back round the roundabout and I hit her in the side of the car. Slow speed, maybe 15 mph.
It turns out that we have the same insurance company just to complicate matters.
I'm pretty sure that she is liable for this accident, what do you all think?

YABU: you are liable
YANBU: you are not liable

AIBU to think I have no liability here? (diagram attached)
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grumpygrape · 09/07/2025 08:03

WiggyClawsThe2nd · 08/07/2025 23:19

I have my eye on a replacement atm but not sure how long a settlement will take. Any ideas?

Sorry, no idea.

I hope you have a speedy resolution though.

grumpygrape · 09/07/2025 08:02

TwinklySquid · 09/07/2025 07:38

The fact the OP asked here if she was at fault kind of indicates she did at least think she maybe.

I’ve never had an accident. Maybe it’s because I use the correct lane.

I seriously worry about some of the drivers on this thread.

Perhaps for the avoidance of doubt you could let us know which lane(s) you think the OP should have been in when entering the first roundabout, to take her last available (dual lane) exit, to proceed to the second roundabout to exit on the second (3 o’clock exit ?

Because if (you think) she should have been in the right hand lane some of us what to know what that lane is for.

TwinklySquid · 09/07/2025 07:38

grumpygrape · 08/07/2025 21:56

Oh dear heavens, you just don’t get it do you ? I honestly wonder how many accidents you have caused. The OP didn’t cause an accident; the other driver did.

The fact the OP asked here if she was at fault kind of indicates she did at least think she maybe.

I’ve never had an accident. Maybe it’s because I use the correct lane.

I seriously worry about some of the drivers on this thread.

sandyhappypeople · 09/07/2025 01:38

WiggyClawsThe2nd · 08/07/2025 23:19

I have my eye on a replacement atm but not sure how long a settlement will take. Any ideas?

It's normally not very long, just as long as it need to be verified that it is a write off. Have you been given a courtesy car?

If they are dragging their feet you can ring up and chase them up, some joyriders smashed into my car and I had a lovely brand new courtesy car, I rang the insurance 3 weeks later(!) to check progress as I hadn't heard a thing, and they seem to had forgotten my car completely, they actually asked ME if it was a write off.. I said well it looked like one, it was hit with such force it ended up in the next door but one's garden! Apparently I should have only had the courtesy car for around a week, it all went through within a few days after that.

Just something to think about though, if you have got one, as soon as they confirm write off and you agree a settlement you only have a few days left of the courtesy car, as they come and pick it up whether you have a new vehicle in place or not!

WiggyClawsThe2nd · 08/07/2025 23:19

grumpygrape · 08/07/2025 23:18

I think it’s the fascination with someone who continues in the belief they are rock solid correct despite being proved wrong, time and time again.

But, hey, as the saying goes, you can’t cure stupid.

Are you hunting for a new car OP or will you be buying yours back from the insurance company ?

I have my eye on a replacement atm but not sure how long a settlement will take. Any ideas?

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grumpygrape · 08/07/2025 23:18

WiggyClawsThe2nd · 08/07/2025 23:13

Good name though! ( @TwinklySquid)
And yes, it was indeed the other driver that caused the accident. And I strongly suspect the very nice lady admitted it to the insurance company too. We all make mistakes sometimes!
I'm baffled by how this thread is even still going 🙄

I think it’s the fascination with someone who continues in the belief they are rock solid correct despite being proved wrong, time and time again.

But, hey, as the saying goes, you can’t cure stupid.

Are you hunting for a new car OP or will you be buying yours back from the insurance company ?

WiggyClawsThe2nd · 08/07/2025 23:13

sandyhappypeople · 08/07/2025 20:26

I didn't think you'd answer the question about the diagram @TwinklySquid , to do so, you would have to admit that you are in fact completely wrong and you have no idea how to navigate multiple lane roundabouts.

It was pretty obvious that you haven't got a clue (plenty of opinions though!), so you're just here to argue with people then it seems.

Good name though! ( @TwinklySquid)
And yes, it was indeed the other driver that caused the accident. And I strongly suspect the very nice lady admitted it to the insurance company too. We all make mistakes sometimes!
I'm baffled by how this thread is even still going 🙄

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grumpygrape · 08/07/2025 21:56

TwinklySquid · 08/07/2025 21:42

And yet I’m not the one who has had an accident on a roundabout. Funny that!

Oh dear heavens, you just don’t get it do you ? I honestly wonder how many accidents you have caused. The OP didn’t cause an accident; the other driver did.

TwinklySquid · 08/07/2025 21:42

grumpygrape · 08/07/2025 17:58

Or keeps lane dodging and endangering everyone else on the roundabout. 🙄

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And yet I’m not the one who has had an accident on a roundabout. Funny that!

sandyhappypeople · 08/07/2025 20:26

I didn't think you'd answer the question about the diagram @TwinklySquid , to do so, you would have to admit that you are in fact completely wrong and you have no idea how to navigate multiple lane roundabouts.

It was pretty obvious that you haven't got a clue (plenty of opinions though!), so you're just here to argue with people then it seems.

grumpygrape · 08/07/2025 17:58

TheNightingalesStarling · 08/07/2025 15:50

I don't think TwinklySquid has ever actually used a multilane roundabout.

Or keeps lane dodging and endangering everyone else on the roundabout. 🙄

TheNightingalesStarling · 08/07/2025 15:50

I don't think TwinklySquid has ever actually used a multilane roundabout.

TwinklySquid · 08/07/2025 15:46

grumpygrape · 08/07/2025 15:25

In you world then, OP has to enter the first roundabout either in the left hand lane or move from her right hand lane entry lane to the left hand lane and then when she has passed the 9 o'clock exit and entry has to move back over to the right hand lane to exit the roundabout on the right hand lane to be in the correct (right hand) lane to exit the second roundabout at 3 o'clock?

Okay, in my world then

sandyhappypeople · 08/07/2025 15:35

TwinklySquid · 08/07/2025 14:53

I have- someone going past the 12 o clock point.

Funny how you've not answered the question about the diagram if you are so sure you're are correct..

So you think the red car cannot carry straight on a dual carriageway (as in the diagram below) and it is the wrong lane in the daigram below?

Yes or no?

AIBU to think I have no liability here? (diagram attached)
grumpygrape · 08/07/2025 15:25

TwinklySquid · 08/07/2025 14:53

I have- someone going past the 12 o clock point.

In you world then, OP has to enter the first roundabout either in the left hand lane or move from her right hand lane entry lane to the left hand lane and then when she has passed the 9 o'clock exit and entry has to move back over to the right hand lane to exit the roundabout on the right hand lane to be in the correct (right hand) lane to exit the second roundabout at 3 o'clock?

TwinklySquid · 08/07/2025 14:53

grumpygrape · 08/07/2025 14:35

You still haven't answered who you think should be in the right hand lane on the first roundabout.

I have- someone going past the 12 o clock point.

grumpygrape · 08/07/2025 14:35

TwinklySquid · 08/07/2025 14:29

As I have said, both were in the wrong lane.

You still haven't answered who you think should be in the right hand lane on the first roundabout.

TwinklySquid · 08/07/2025 14:29

sandyhappypeople · 08/07/2025 10:15

so you think the woman who hit OP was in the correct lane?

She was in the left lane turning right on the island.

As I have said, both were in the wrong lane.

Gremlinsateit · 08/07/2025 13:50

I do think that the reference in the Highway Code to the “appropriate” lane is not helpful or clear.

I’m in Australia and the road rules for my state say, unless the road signage shows otherwise, left lane goes left, right lane goes right or makes full turn, straight ahead can choose either lane.

And you absolutely don’t change lanes in the middle of a roundabout, as some PPs seem to be suggesting!

AIBU to think I have no liability here? (diagram attached)
myplace · 08/07/2025 13:48

Nah, I’m with OP @derxa

Some accidents are unavoidable, no matter how defensively you drive!

derxa · 08/07/2025 13:41

myplace · 08/07/2025 13:23

It’s always salutary to read a roundabout thread. It wakes you up to the utter incompetence and unreliability of other road users.

And that applies regardless of who is right! Both sides of this discussion need to know what the other road users are thinking!

Drive like everyone else is incompetent and about to make a mistake.

You’re absolutely right. I’d like to think that the OP won’t make the same mistake again. She could have saved herself a lot of worry and hassle.

myplace · 08/07/2025 13:23

It’s always salutary to read a roundabout thread. It wakes you up to the utter incompetence and unreliability of other road users.

And that applies regardless of who is right! Both sides of this discussion need to know what the other road users are thinking!

Drive like everyone else is incompetent and about to make a mistake.

WiggyClawsThe2nd · 08/07/2025 13:00

grumpygrape · 08/07/2025 10:06

Deep breath.

But OP WAS NOT IN THE WRONG LANE
SHE WAS IN THE CORRECT LANE TO EXIT ROUNDABOUT ONE AT 12 O'CLOCK AND THE SECOND ROUNDABOUT AT 3 O'CLOCK.

Yes, I know it's rude to shout on forums but sometimes one needs to make a point.

Absolutely!

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sandyhappypeople · 08/07/2025 10:15

TwinklySquid · 08/07/2025 09:24

I would be if I was in the wrong lane.

so you think the woman who hit OP was in the correct lane?

She was in the left lane turning right on the island.

grumpygrape · 08/07/2025 10:06

TwinklySquid · 08/07/2025 09:24

I would be if I was in the wrong lane.

Deep breath.

But OP WAS NOT IN THE WRONG LANE
SHE WAS IN THE CORRECT LANE TO EXIT ROUNDABOUT ONE AT 12 O'CLOCK AND THE SECOND ROUNDABOUT AT 3 O'CLOCK.

Yes, I know it's rude to shout on forums but sometimes one needs to make a point.