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Pram left overnight in the garden!

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dontcomeatme · 30/06/2025 08:24

Definetly not "end of the world" stuff, but I got quite angry about this.
We have a double buggy that doesn't fit through our front door so needs to be built up outside every time we want to go out, not an issue. Monday mornings are nursery run mornings, I need to get the 7:20am bus. DW always at work. We're both females.
She was sorting jobs out last night while I got the baby settled for sleep. She came upstairs and told me she had built the pram up and just left it in the garden! We have never done that before and I don't like the idea of it. She said it wasn't going to rain so didn't see the issue. Problem is we saw a rat in the garden last week and after speaking with the neighbours turns out that 3 doors down have a rat problem.
I didn't shout at her but I did irritably tell her to go and get the pram in the house because I didn't want rats touching it and she said I was being absolutely ridiculous.
So..
YABU - Leaving the pram outside (weather approving) clearly saves time.
YANBU - Rats carry diseases and its not safe to leave it out.
And would you leave a pram outside at all regardless of the rats?

OP posts:
Sageandtime · 30/06/2025 12:26

You are most definitely not being unreasonable @dontcomeatme

All the reasons given are valid but the most immediate problem would be that the pram could be damp. Despite it being very hot yesterday, my outdoor chair cushions (which I normally put inside overnight) were damp to sit on this morning.

JohnofWessex · 30/06/2025 12:26

Smaller pram?

Manthide · 30/06/2025 12:24

Needmoresleep · 30/06/2025 12:21

DH caught leptospirosis. Probably from rats urine, in his case abroad, and really hard to diagnose. Very nasty - he ended up in intensive care, one of my daughter's school teachers, who probably caught it from London river water where rats had swum, died. I googled and came across various cases that happened in UK.

Really rare but you really would not want a small baby to get it.

Ds had it last year and almost died. He caught it kayaking in England.

Manthide · 30/06/2025 12:23

Gizlotsmum · 30/06/2025 08:54

I wouldn’t like this. The problem is rats can carry weil’s disease which can be deadly if not caught in time. They frequently urinate which is how it is spread. A cover would work.

Ds22 nearly died of weils disease last August. He ended up in intensive care. Thankfully he has made a full recovery. He caught in whilst doing watersports. Apparently 99% of people never even know they've got it and then there's ds!

hannahbanana93 · 30/06/2025 12:22

I don't think I would want to leave my pram outside either to be honest, not because of rats but I'd be worried about it getting damp and we do have a lot of ants in our garden. But leaving it out a few times overnight when it was guaranteed not to rain? I'd probably wouldn't get worked up over it.

A 21lb 3 month old?! Say what now?!

Needmoresleep · 30/06/2025 12:21

DH caught leptospirosis. Probably from rats urine, in his case abroad, and really hard to diagnose. Very nasty - he ended up in intensive care, one of my daughter's school teachers, who probably caught it from London river water where rats had swum, died. I googled and came across various cases that happened in UK.

Really rare but you really would not want a small baby to get it.

Stef3 · 30/06/2025 12:20

AutumnFog · 30/06/2025 12:16

Why not leave the frame outside then it's just the 2 attachments left to carry out and clip on?

If did that with my double pram (which I suspect is the same one the OP has), they could still piss all over the tray which I put my newborn’s blankets into and also her bottles too.

JRM17 · 30/06/2025 12:17

My main question is... Why on earth would you buy a pram that doesn't fit in ur house or at least fold up enough to fit??? There are LOADS of double options these days. But other than that had I been ur DW I'd have told you to crack on and move it urself if u were gonna piss and whinge.

AutumnFog · 30/06/2025 12:16

dontcomeatme · 30/06/2025 08:42

I just didn't want to lie my baby in something a potentially disease riddled animal had crawled on. He is only 3 months so currently doesn't use the slides or garden furniture 😅

Why not leave the frame outside then it's just the 2 attachments left to carry out and clip on?

SailingYachty · 30/06/2025 12:16

I wouldn’t want a pram left outside either, especially for a young baby. I don’t know why but there’s a proper infestation of pigeons where I live this year and they poo on everything! It’s disgusting.
Id try to be nice about it, but if was knackered I might have responded you did!

CantFollowInstructions · 30/06/2025 12:06

At my daughter's nursery all the children's prams/buggies stay outside in all weathers. They do have a little shelter but you have to be there early to get a space, otherwise you stick the cover on and hope for the best, or take it home and bring it again at pick up. Obviously they're not there overnight but still outside (and the nursery's own 3 and 4 seaters are outside overnight). Now my daughter uses a wheelchair it stays inside at nursery even if she's not using it, but that's for insurance reasons.

dontcomeatme · 30/06/2025 12:05

RachTheAlpaca · 30/06/2025 12:04

Could you baby wear your 3 month old and get a cheap fold up buggy for your toddler?

I can, but my 3 month old is 21lb already I can only wear him for so long. I had the same issue when my 2yo was a baby. Double pram is just easier for me. Plus I'm ebf and he just roots on me constantly in the carrier, doesn't settle because he smells milk x

OP posts:
dontcomeatme · 30/06/2025 12:04

chaosmaker · 30/06/2025 12:01

@dontcomeatme what about dew making it damp as well if it's a padded one?

100%

OP posts:
RachTheAlpaca · 30/06/2025 12:04

Could you baby wear your 3 month old and get a cheap fold up buggy for your toddler?

chaosmaker · 30/06/2025 12:01

@dontcomeatme what about dew making it damp as well if it's a padded one?

Ninkynonkpinkyponks · 30/06/2025 11:59

As a one off here and there it wouldn’t be the end of the world for me. We don’t leave it out every night

Thatsrhesummeroverthen · 30/06/2025 11:54

I'd worry about pigeons and other forms of bird poo more. Build frame, bring in soft parts.

levampire · 30/06/2025 11:51

I wouldn't be worried about rats, I expect they have better things to do than get in your pram!

People making statements like this have clearly never had to deal with rats.

It's not an idle fantasy. OP has said there is a rat infestation 3 doors down, and OP has already seen a rat in her garden. Rats are opportunists and will use any material they can find for bedding, and piss all over whatever as they go.

Needspaceforlego · 30/06/2025 11:51

Op i wouldn't leave it outside either. At a push I'd leave the frame out but I wouldn't leave the seats / carrycot out. Animals, spiders and just generally getting damp in the night.

Her hearts in the right place, even if she didn't think it through.

Blueberrymuffinsforthewin · 30/06/2025 11:46

Now that I've seen how old your baby is I agree I wouldn't want it outside built up however your DP probably just thought she was helping by doing it.

ColourThief · 30/06/2025 11:43

I know everyone is making out you’re ridiculous but I’m ten children in and never leave my pram outside, never have and never will over all of the prams I’ve owned.
Firstly, I don’t want it getting ruined and secondly I wouldn’t trust someone not robbing it.

Too many street wandering cats in my neighbourhood that would use it as a bed or a toilet too.

My pram is a £1500 double electric pram (I didn’t pay this, I was gifted it) and there’s no bloody way I’d risk being stolen or ruined.

herbalteabag · 30/06/2025 11:42

I'm sure I left mine out by mistake and it was a bit damp in the morning but it recovered. I wouldn't be worried about rats, I expect they have better things to do than get in your pram!
I think it's better to keep it inside though. Still, it's already happened now so forget about it.

Properchips · 30/06/2025 11:36

NewGoldFox · 30/06/2025 08:31

You don’t want spiders rubbing their willies all over it.

😂Ewww! Please take that picture from out of my head! 😂

Newnamesagain · 30/06/2025 11:35

I'd be more worried about the rats nibbling the toddler seat. There's no chance there's not at least a raisin wedged in there somewhere and the padding makes nice nests for little baby rats.

latetothefisting · 30/06/2025 11:31

Why did you "irritably tell" her and not just ask her politely?

I don't think either of you are necessarily wrong but you probably made it into a bigger thing than it needed to be. If you are the one who doesn't want it left outside then you should be the one to go and get it, or at least say nicely "ugh I'm probably being silly but I don't really like the idea of it being left out, would you mind bringing it in please?"

I probably would have been annoyed as well if I thought I'd done my partner a favour and they spoke to me like a useless employee.

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