Andrew Tate - who the heck is this loonatic?

Met him years ago and he wasn’t like this at all. God knows if it’s all an act for money / notoriety or if he just went completely mental.

I think people confuse smarts with audacity, to which these kinds of people have in abundance.

Being popular doesn’t make someone smart. Loads of thick-as-shit people are role models and famous. Yet, their intellectual levels are shockingly low. It doesn’t take a genius to get into a reality show or set up a podcast and then build a fan-base on some social platform and spout rubbish to impressionable young people and watch the money roll in. And it’s funny how they are thought of as businessmen/women. They also squander a lot of money and build up debts too over time. Plus this Tate guy earns the vast majority of his income from running prostitute rings. Very smart…(Not!)

He is many, many vile things but he's definitely not thick. He has successfully manipulated millions of young men into seeing him as some kind of hero which in turn has made him a multi, multi millionaire. As can be seen from this thread, he has also successfully manipulated a load of parents into reading his stuff 'so they know what he's all about'... which in turn has made him a multi, multi millionaire. That's young men AND their parents that have fallen into his trap, all over the world. That's pretty astute.

I suspect that may well be his problem.

I assumed that, but it just makes him look even more stupid imo. If you were a really successful guy, and a millionaire, who couldn't get clothes to fit because your muscles were so big, you'd just get clothes tailored to fit, wouldn't you? Wearing clothes that are two sizes too small just makes him look cheap and clueless about how to dress himself!

To show off how manly he is so we are impressed and intimidated at his manly muscles!

The guy is a clown and most people think that at this point. I think he says outrageous shit to rage bait people into reactions because it keeps him 'relevant.'

And why are his clothes always a couple of sizes too small?

Yes agreed, I thought of Marcus Rashford too. I guess the problem is those potential role models are spending most of their time actually doing something worthwhile rather than recording nonsense for tiktok!

No I don't think you're talking rubbish at all. Tate certainly makes himself very available for anyone seeking the kind of bile he spouts. I'm thinking of men like Bear Grylls, Marcus Rashford - but perhaps they aren't as omnipresent as the objectionable Tate.

I think she means that the real demonic possessions are not the type we see in horror films but the kind of behaviour from lunatics such as Tate, and they are far more dangerous. Charles Manson, Hitler, Putin etc.. were/are similar madmen attracting lots of followers.

He is beyond vile. However, the first time I came across him was stuff encouraging young men to take care of themselves physically and mentally and to work hard - obviously behind this was his bile and I think it’s a well known technique to say something rational and draw folk in and then spout your dreadfulness.
But I’ve seen/heard little of this health stuff lately - he seems to believe his own bullshit about men/women, and believe it’s on tablets of stone for him to impart and he is so great he no longer needs a rational lure.
I hope he goes so much too far he loses all followers. And also hope he is jailed.
I’ve heard other comments about sex from him but more along the lines that you sleep with a woman to make her ‘your ho’ - not for babies - perhaps his ideas are developing, more likely he’s deranged.
I’m not sure how he ever got on the big media stuff - he was a trafficker and abuser.
He has serious issues, maybe closeted, but he definitely needs stopping sharing his bile and more importantly his abuse.

Maybe so. But are they posting on the internet? As people will always look for something to watch on tiktok etc.

As I say maybe I am talking rubbish and there are plenty of role models - would like to think so!

@DisappearingGirl Surely there already are lots of good male role models for boys?

Sadly, it doesn’t sound like he is joking or saying all that nonsense just for attention. He genuinely believes all the bullshit he’s spouting. He’s a sad act.

What?

I wonder if Andrew Tate and his ilk are kind of filling a vacuum.

Sorry to be a bit "anti woke" but there's so much focus at the moment on LGBT+, anti-racism, liberal causes - all of which I agree with - but where is your focus and role model if you're a laddish working class white bloke?

Maybe there's a gap for an influencer who says - you know what, it's okay to want, and aim for, a good income and a nice car. It's okay to want an attractive girlfriend. It's fine to be a "blokey bloke" and enjoy footie and a beer with the lads. But you can aim for all this and still be a decent person who respects others, particularly women. In fact you'll probably go further in life that way.

But there's not much out there representing the above, so Andrew Tate fills the void.

I may be talking rubbish but just something I've wondered.

I have just read this from 2 years ago - Greta has definitely gone up in my estimation!! Might use that one myself 😜

I'm not in the least religious, but I sometimes wonder whether the vomit and head-spinning version of demonic possession is a diversion from the fact that malign influences are ultimately the mundane face of the horrors that can grow within human nature, if the ground is fertile. Defeating it requires nuance and understanding plus strong principles, not crucifixes and holy water.....

I would say steroids maybe ?

There’s nothing there! If I saw a close up of just the garment, I’d think it was a woman …..

There is a long list of people who are so repellent that just their photo makes me gag...the bloody idiot Tate, his bloody idiot brother, Trump, Vance, Musk, Steven Yaxley-Lennon, Farage, Prince Andrew, Bonnie Blue, Liz Jones, Jacob Rees Mogg, Matt Hancock, Katie Hopkins, Sarah Vine - I could go on.

He is probably a latent homosexual, a sociopath, narcissistic and to top it all, he’s thick as shit!

It’s odd that there are mothers of sons desperate to minimise the impact this man is having on boys and young men.