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Nadiya Hussain responds to critics

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PruthePrune · 29/06/2025 09:24

Nadiya Hussain responds to critics

I can understand her being upset that her shows have been axed, apparently ratings were falling, However, I find it hugely disappointing that she has brought race/religion into it. No one is entitled to a BBC show and I think she has had a bloody good run. AIBU?

Nadiya Hussain says she ‘won’t be grateful’ following BBC cooking show axe

Nadiya Hussain has spoken out following the cancellation of her BBC cooking show, delivering a powerful response to critics who told her to be “grateful”. The Great British Bake Off winner has enjoyed a 10-year relationship with the broadcaster followi...

https://www.independent.co.uk/tv/lifestyle/bake-off-nadiya-hussain-cooking-show-axe-b2778744.html

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Coffeeishot · 29/06/2025 13:45

Zov · 29/06/2025 13:41

She has always seemed nice, but it looks like her mask is slipping now that she's not getting her own way.

She is a Human being with feelings she is allowed to be irritated/angry/emotional she doesn't have to be "nice".

Puzzledandpissedoff · 29/06/2025 13:43

IcedPurple · 29/06/2025 13:12

I don’t know anything about this case but women and POC get their shows and columns axed all the time because of misogyny or racism so there is no “of course” about it.

"All the time"? That's a big claim.

Have you got any examples to illustrate your point?

Also awaiting with interest to see @pikkumyy77's examples, IcedPurple - especially as it's claimed that the reasons for the axing are misogny/racism

For clarity I haven't the least doubt this happens, but "all the time" does seem a bit of a stretch on the face of it

Zov · 29/06/2025 13:41

nomoreforks · 29/06/2025 13:33

I love Nadiya and think she is very talented. She seems to be a really lovely person too. Social media has made it very difficult to sustain a career on TV as a cook/baker/chef. I only really use instagram for recipes and inspiration rather than watching a TV show these days.

She has always seemed nice, but it looks like her mask is slipping now that she's not getting her own way.

Zov · 29/06/2025 13:40

dietmonkey · 29/06/2025 12:37

Hussain spoke of her experiences growing up in an immigrant household: “Gratitude became something that I was expected to wear like a uniform. Anytime I voiced frustration or sadness or wanted more, I could feel the invisible pressure.”

Back in the 70's and 80's we were ALL told to be grateful for what we had, we were scared of misbehaving, because there were real consequences and punishments, and we did what we were told, otherwise we'd get a clip round the ear. The snowflake generation hadn't been born yet. I expect Nadia's parents were aware of the stark contrast, between their own childhoods in Bangladesh, and the privileged upbringing that Nadiya was enjoying.

She can now retire at age 46, with her several million, whilst the rest of us have to work until we are 67.

Someone hand me the world's smallest violin.

100% with you here. But Nadiya is actually only 40, not 46!

RainbowBagels · 29/06/2025 13:39

She said she was entitled to feel angry and in her past she was told she should be grateful when she had been treated unfairly. But has she been treated unfairly? She won Bakeoff, got several TV shows, and books off the back of it and now ratings are dropping the BBC has axed it. Shes literally been treated the same as hundreds of TV personalities over the years. Has she been told to be grateful because she's brown, or has she been told to be grateful because she has had a long career and lots of opportunities that she would likely not have got if she hadn't gone on Bakeoff? I dont know any other Bakeoff winner or contestant who has done more than a few guest slots on magazine shows apart from her.

Wilfulignoranceabounds · 29/06/2025 13:38

HappydaysArehere · 29/06/2025 10:36

She went over the top with her anger. She had done well and was fortunate to have the opportunities she has had. Nothing to do with colour. Better to have shown a more balanced and more pleasant presentation of herself. She could have thanked the BBCfor the series she has had and then looked around for other opportunities.

“Over the top with her anger”?! I’ve seen Gordon Ramsey routinely get more angry about things as inconsequential as veg not being sliced thin enough. Did anything she said have to get bleeped out? Your entire comment is exactly what she’s referring to. Discourse analysis of the language used about white and non-white individuals in similar scenarios reaps very interesting results. The differences can be subtle but they are there and they’re there to denote that the non-whites (even when they’re being praised) are ultimately not from this country (whether they were born here or not).

ItsUpToYou · 29/06/2025 13:35

Extravirginolive · 29/06/2025 13:31

There's already modelling which shows this as already happening, not unlikely to happen.

If you are white British in your 40s now immigration and births will mean your age group will be a minority by 65.
In your 30s it's going to happen sooner and so on.

The change is coming from immigration and births too.

It going to make racism very complicated.

Where did you source this, can I ask? I know enough about heterodox social sciences and how they like to deviate from what is “politically correct”, so I’d be interested to look at the research process for these predictions.

Extravirginolive · 29/06/2025 13:34

kerstina · 29/06/2025 13:27

It’s ok she can do Strictly. I think her outburst is more to do with her personality type than anything else . She suffers with anxiety doesn’t she so likely prone to emotional outbursts and also likely to take it personally. I say that as someone who also suffers with anxiety before anyone jumps to criticise me .

Practicing gratitude is actually very good for anxiety.

Jigaliga · 29/06/2025 13:33

ItsUpToYou · 29/06/2025 13:32

This sums up the general attitude perfectly. “Little brown woman, you must stay in the box that we have so generously given to you.”

Nobody wants to be lectured at by an overreaching TV sleb. See also: Gary Lineker (who also got the axe).

nomoreforks · 29/06/2025 13:33

I love Nadiya and think she is very talented. She seems to be a really lovely person too. Social media has made it very difficult to sustain a career on TV as a cook/baker/chef. I only really use instagram for recipes and inspiration rather than watching a TV show these days.

ItsUpToYou · 29/06/2025 13:32

TwigletsAndRadishes · 29/06/2025 13:29

She was given the show in the first place because she was the perfect poster girl for Islam and multicultural Britain. I'm not saying she didn't deserve it, she's talented, attractive, likeable and a natural in front of the camera. But so are many people who come through Bake Off and they don't get their own show.

She's learning a hard lesson now. When you are suddenly shot to the top it's hard work staying there. Ask just about every X Factor winner. If ratings slacken off you will have to watch your back and have a plan B up your sleeve. She's had a really good run but her honeymoon period is over and she's going to have to start really earning her place on the TV screen now, pitching her shows to smaller channels.

It's also a good idea to not wind people up by using your celebritry to preach to the rest of us about race, politics or religion or your views on anything else that may be divisive.

There are those who will agree with her viewpoint but then there will always be those who don't, and she risks losing support by stepping out of her box and assuming her audience are open to being lectured by her, instead of just watching her cook and look pretty in a range of colourful hijabs and turbans. She's made the mistake of thinking she's a bit more important and influential than she is.

This sums up the general attitude perfectly. “Little brown woman, you must stay in the box that we have so generously given to you.”

Extravirginolive · 29/06/2025 13:31

ItalianWays · 29/06/2025 13:18

@Extravirginolive Only about 13% of people in England (less in other parts of the UK) are BAME. It feels unlikely that in 25 years time white people under 65 will be in a minority, unless immigration rules change dramatically.

There's already modelling which shows this as already happening, not unlikely to happen.

If you are white British in your 40s now immigration and births will mean your age group will be a minority by 65.
In your 30s it's going to happen sooner and so on.

The change is coming from immigration and births too.

It going to make racism very complicated.

Nadiya Hussain responds to critics
TwigletsAndRadishes · 29/06/2025 13:29

She was given the show in the first place because she was the perfect poster girl for Islam and multicultural Britain. I'm not saying she didn't deserve it, she's talented, attractive, likeable and a natural in front of the camera. But so are many people who come through Bake Off and they don't get their own show.

She's learning a hard lesson now. When you are suddenly shot to the top it's hard work staying there. Ask just about every X Factor winner. If ratings slacken off you will have to watch your back and have a plan B up your sleeve. She's had a really good run but her honeymoon period is over and she's going to have to start really earning her place on the TV screen now, pitching her shows to smaller channels.

It's also a good idea to not wind people up by using your celebritry to preach to the rest of us about race, politics or religion or your views on anything else that may be divisive.

There are those who will agree with her viewpoint but then there will always be those who don't, and she risks losing support by stepping out of her box and assuming her audience are open to being lectured by her, instead of just watching her cook and look pretty in a range of colourful hijabs and turbans. She's made the mistake of thinking she's a bit more important and influential than she is.

Rollonwinterplease · 29/06/2025 13:28

So many people would love to be in her position and to come as far as she has…man, woman, black, white, brown whatever

I for one would be grateful (middle aged white woman)

RainbowBagels · 29/06/2025 13:28

ExtraOnions · 29/06/2025 09:49

…her last series was pretty poor, loads of rehashed stuff, nothing new. She was a good baker, but a bob-average chef. She did well to make pots of money from winning a baking show.

I agree. I bought her book. The dishes were not that nice. The kind of stuff that if you'd cooked for your kids since they were born they like because they are used to it ( I have many dishes like this that they refuse to eat in restaurants because it 'doesn't taste right' (because it tastes like its supposed to taste most of the time!))
She shouldn't have to be grateful, and I can understand that if people have said that to her that its irritating but she should be glad she managed to outlast many TV chefs and pragmatic that if ratings for her show were dropping, they were dropping and she isn't entitled to another show just because there aren't many hijab wearing women on telly. That is patronising in itself.

kerstina · 29/06/2025 13:27

It’s ok she can do Strictly. I think her outburst is more to do with her personality type than anything else . She suffers with anxiety doesn’t she so likely prone to emotional outbursts and also likely to take it personally. I say that as someone who also suffers with anxiety before anyone jumps to criticise me .

EasternStandard · 29/06/2025 13:26

ginasevern · 29/06/2025 13:18

I read the link provided in the OP and she's not angry about the programme being axed but about people telling her to be "grateful" which puts a very different perspective on it.

@EasternStandard You say she also talks about the unfairness of it (the programme being axed I presume?). I can't see that in the article, is it me?

She mentions unfairness in some of the articles, I think @Puzzledandpissedoff has copied one above

phoenixrosehere · 29/06/2025 13:23

ItsUpToYou · 29/06/2025 12:45

Again, I ask: is it wilful ignorance or poor comprehension that you’re showing?

We
Are
Not
Talking
About
The
Show
Being
Axed.

We
Are
Talking
About
The
(well researched)
Expectation
For
Immigrants
And
Their
(Brown skinned)
Descendants
To
Be
Grateful
To
Britain.

Fucking hell. How much clearer can the point be?

I agree. I listened to what she said and I came to the same conclusion as you. It came up on my insta feed.

She literally explains the exact sentiment yet the point flies over some people’s head. Those who know, have experienced this, know exactly what she means.

CatRoleplayTycoon · 29/06/2025 13:20

Drfosters · 29/06/2025 12:50

But isn’t this just a confusion in culture. In the Uk from small we are constantly bombarded with the idea of being grateful/thankful/blessed. It is a Christian country and pretty much all of us would have very Christian focussed school assemblies that repeated the messaging about being grateful. If you are Catholic no doubt you would say grace with is all about being grateful and thankful. Gratitude and showing it is cultural in the Uk.

if you have emigrated from another country which is different culturally and have a different religion which doesn’t focus on those attributes than I can se how you would be a bit put out with the idea of being grateful and it is why people here are put out with the idea she wouldn’t be because we take it for granted that we should be grateful which you are given something.

This is one of the weirder things I’ve read on here. Brits aren’t permanently grateful because they were told to be in school assemblies. Plus Nadiya Hussain is a second-generation British person. She was born and educated in Luton in British state schools. She would have attended all those school assemblies you seem to imagine as so formative of the British psyche. She is part of your ‘we’. Unless you think that her being Muslim somehow meant she didn’t imbibe the cultural imperative to ‘gratitude’?

Wilfulignoranceabounds · 29/06/2025 13:20

TesChique · 29/06/2025 10:22

Shhh that doesn't suit the narrative

It’s not about not suiting the narrative; in the context of this debate comparisons should be made against her white peers, not random poor, white people.

ginasevern · 29/06/2025 13:18

I read the link provided in the OP and she's not angry about the programme being axed but about people telling her to be "grateful" which puts a very different perspective on it.

@EasternStandard You say she also talks about the unfairness of it (the programme being axed I presume?). I can't see that in the article, is it me?

ItalianWays · 29/06/2025 13:18

@Extravirginolive Only about 13% of people in England (less in other parts of the UK) are BAME. It feels unlikely that in 25 years time white people under 65 will be in a minority, unless immigration rules change dramatically.

NewGoldFox · 29/06/2025 13:17

Poor Nadiya.

Must be awful having lifelong financial security for her and her children from something she enjoyed doing and let’s not pretend she won’t have any further opportunities.

LindorDoubleChoc · 29/06/2025 13:16

ridl14 · 29/06/2025 09:57

I saw that video and don't think she's saying her show shouldn't have been axed, she's saying she's allowed not to be 'grateful' all the time and be a nuanced human, as everyone else is

Why can't people be grateful for good luck and good fortune? It's part of being a functioning adult. Is thankful a better word?

I completely understand her argument that women/brown women/brown anyone shouldn't be told to be grateful for the scraps on the table, for having a job in the first place, for having the basics in life and the same opportunities as everyone else regardless of sex or race. But this isn't what she had in the BBC employment. She had a fantastic, elite job that ran for 10 years! I think she's conflating (Mumsnet favourite word) two issues.

Unless of course she can show us hundreds of comments that are saying "you should be grateful because you are Muslim". I know that there will be some cunts who meant or implied this, but I don't think for one minute that they will be the majority.

Dweetfidilove · 29/06/2025 13:15

Sunbeam01 · 29/06/2025 12:18

Oh please.

I have worked with ED&I for over a decade - promoting it and ensuring it is at the forefront of corporate culture at top FTSE 100 companies.

I will tell you who is at the most disadvantaged in this country - white working class males. That is fact.

In your professional experience, what puts white working class males at a disadvantage and what could be done to improve their circumstances?

What is the difference between a white working class girl that makes her more likely to excel, and the white working class boy who is less likely to do the same?