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Asking a child’s mother to pay for replacement pastry?!

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HeatingFiddler · 29/06/2025 08:03

Yesterday at my local coffee shop/bakery I had my pastry on a tray on the counter and was waiting for my coffee. In front of me was a mum with two kids.

One of the kids was fairly young and kept touching everything including glass cabinets, tables, chairs, the self-serve cutlery. She also kept putting her fingers in her mouth and hair. As kids do.

Anyway. She suddenly grabbed my pastry! I shrieked (probably an over reaction, but god the child has literally just shove her fingers in her mouth moments before). Kids mum turned around and asked what the problem was. I said that her child had just touched my pastry, after putting her fingers in her mouth.
And she said, ‘oh. Kids will be kids. I’m sure it’s fine.’

Obviously, I said, ‘kids will not just be kids. It’s unhygienic and poor /parenting and I would like for you to buy me a replacement.’

She said ‘if it’s that big of an issue I’m sure you can ask the staff for a new one.’

At this point a member of staff arrived. I explained the situation and said, ‘I don’t think a replacement should come from you. This happened because the child was not being supervised. The child’s mother should pay.’

Anyway, in the end the child’s mother agreed to pay and she took the one her child had touched and they ate it and then left.

Was I being unreasonable to say the mother should pay and to refuse to eat the pastry after that? I genuinely don’t think The coffee shop should have had to front a replacement either - it wasn’t their error!

OP posts:
ruethewhirl · 29/06/2025 10:44

Supergirl1958 · 29/06/2025 10:12

I clicked yabu, not because I don’t agree with the fact that she should have paid for a replacement! But because of the absolute scene, and because you called it poor parenting. If this was me I would have been absolute mortified and I probably would have cried. Perhaps next time be discrete!
YANU to ask for a replacement pastry!

You don't think is poor parenting on the other mum's part?

DontTouchRoach · 29/06/2025 10:44

CreteBound · 29/06/2025 10:42

Have you never heard of stomach acid? It’s evolved over thousands of years to kill viruses…

also come off it. What the odds of a child having GF at that particular moment.

Honestly mumsnetters are really poor at risk assessment when it comes to germs.

So if an adult stranger came over and gobbed on to your sandwich, you’d just eat it, would you?

Supergirl1958 · 29/06/2025 10:43

Theroadt · 29/06/2025 10:42

Not the point though. The point is entitled parenting, expecting other people to give ground. Just like prams on narrow pavements - I always step off to allow passage, but very rarely get a thank you. Just as an example. Parenting takes effort.

Of course it does, but sometimes that effort leaves you running on empty and none of us knows exactly what goes on!

That said, I do my best to always say thankyou to people in these situations!

DrowningInSyrup · 29/06/2025 10:43

x2boys · 29/06/2025 10:27

What's that got to do with this thread?

Just wondering if I meet OPs poor parenting standards because my DC is a lot older, but agreed derailing of the highest order.

ginasevern · 29/06/2025 10:43

CreteBound · 29/06/2025 08:16

Child was being a brat but what did you think would happen to you if you ate the pastry?

Most people wouldn't want to eat food that had been pawed over by someone else or contained the saliva of another person. It's a normal human reaction, even though we know that it probably won't cause us any harm. Surely you must have heard of it before?

DontTouchRoach · 29/06/2025 10:42

CreteBound · 29/06/2025 08:16

Child was being a brat but what did you think would happen to you if you ate the pastry?

I’m not remotely germ-phobic but I wouldn’t want to eat a pastry that someone else’s kid had grabbed immediately after having her fingers in her mouth any more than I’d want to eat a pastry that an adult had just spat on.

As for ‘What do think would happen?’ there are numerous possibilities ranging from ‘nothing’ to ‘a serious gastrointestinal bug’. Most likely it would be nothing, but who knows and who wants to play Russian roulette with a stranger’s saliva? Not me.

CreteBound · 29/06/2025 10:42

Cherrytree86 · 29/06/2025 10:30

@CreteBound

loads of illnesses can be passed on via saliva …have you never heard of glandular fever??

Have you never heard of stomach acid? It’s evolved over thousands of years to kill viruses…

also come off it. What the odds of a child having GF at that particular moment.

Honestly mumsnetters are really poor at risk assessment when it comes to germs.

Theroadt · 29/06/2025 10:42

Not the point though. The point is entitled parenting, expecting other people to give ground. Just like prams on narrow pavements - I always step off to allow passage, but very rarely get a thank you. Just as an example. Parenting takes effort.

HeatingFiddler · 29/06/2025 10:41

@Hallebere she said, 'kids will be kids,' and then went to turn back around again. That's what really got me. It was really dismissive.

If it had been my child, I would have been absolutely mortified.

OP posts:
PinkSparklyPussyCat · 29/06/2025 10:41

Elandelephant · 29/06/2025 10:22

To be fair if my kids did this in the split second I wasn't watching them I would buy you a replacement pastry. But if you told my parenting was rubbish like you did here then stuff your pastry and sort yourself out.

OP mentioned poor parenting because the stupid woman said 'kids will be kids'. I wouldn't want someone's grubby hands over my food, especially as the kid had their fingers in their mouth, and the mother dismissing it would have annoyed me as well.

Hallebere · 29/06/2025 10:39

For me it would depend on the parents attitude. If they had been apologetic and told the child off my defenses would have been lowered but if she said kids will be kids my hackles would have risen

Piccante · 29/06/2025 10:35

Moonnstars · 29/06/2025 08:06

YANBU. If she knows 'kids will be kids' then she should be watching hers more carefully. I hope she actually paid for two pastries considering you said she took the one the child had touched and not just paid for yours.

She doesn’t need to pay for two pastries, she only needs to pay for one, OP’s replacement. Essentially, they’ve bought a pastry each, OP has her replacement so she’s neither gained nor lost. The mum has technically lost as she has had to buy a pastry she may not have been planning on purchasing.

Cherrytree86 · 29/06/2025 10:35

Tandora · 29/06/2025 08:40

Wow you acted like a piece of work. Imagine “shrieking” because a small child touched your pastry.

Awful.

@Tandora

who wants to eat a strangers spit?? Maybe you do… I don’t though and neither does OP

SnowflakeSmasher86 · 29/06/2025 10:34

I’m with you OP - I work with kids and wouldn’t eat anything they’ve been handling! I see where they put their hands and how poorly they wash them.

I probably wouldn’t have shrieked but I would have “eewwww”ed and tutted and asked the parent politely if they could replace it as I don’t want to eat something anyone else has been handling, let alone a small germy child. But I wouldn’t have criticised her parenting, mainly to try and ensure she felt guilty rather than defensive and would be more likely to replace it. You catch more flies with honey than vinegar etc

IamtheDevilsAvocado · 29/06/2025 10:30

CreteBound · 29/06/2025 08:16

Child was being a brat but what did you think would happen to you if you ate the pastry?

I wouldn't want to eat a toddlers saliva.

Cherrytree86 · 29/06/2025 10:30

CreteBound · 29/06/2025 08:16

Child was being a brat but what did you think would happen to you if you ate the pastry?

@CreteBound

loads of illnesses can be passed on via saliva …have you never heard of glandular fever??

x2boys · 29/06/2025 10:30

FreezeDriedStrawberries · 29/06/2025 10:19

😂
I love MN, it's completely mad sometimes 😂
I agree that it'd be annoying if a random kid grabbed your pastry but it's hardly equivalent to your danish whirl being covered in pubes lol
As for shrieking, I'd think the OP was a bit bonkers too

Most people wouldnt want to eat a pastry that had been grabbed at by someone else's small child who has their fingers in their mouth etc ,kids

Naunet · 29/06/2025 10:29

Areyouserioushuh · 29/06/2025 09:16

This is the sort of thing my toddler would do and i have eyes on her like a hawk. Some kids find it hard to listen at a young age and they are constantly exploring. I dont think its the mums fault, and i would have just asked the staff for another or....taken it as a good opportunity to go without some junk.

give that mum a break. Im sure she isnt a bad parent because her child touched your pastry. PLEASE!

Oh please! It is not the job of random members of the public to overlook bad behaviour in children and leave themselves out of pocket, just so that you don't have to take responsibility for your child's behaviour. The bloody entitlement of some parents blows my mind.

Supergirl1958 · 29/06/2025 10:29

DrowningInSyrup · 29/06/2025 10:25

Sorry to derail. But my DC (9) was sniffing a newspaper on the counter at the local shop. She loves the smell of newspapers. I laughed and said "what are you doing"? and a couple of people in the shop said I love the smell of books etc. One woman looked at her in utter disgust though. In hindsight I should have told her not to do it. Is this really gross? I think I might need to reassess my parenting skills.

Absolutely you do! It’s right up there in the top 10 parenting fails! 😂😂 in all seriousness I would have been the same as your daughter! Love the smell of a freshly printed newspaper!

I genuinely feel sorry for the mum in this situation. Not because she shouldn’t have bought a replacement pastry, which she should, and did, but to have your parenting called out loudly and publicly is embarrassing and humiliating! I literally would have bought the pastry and ran away crying! Mortifying!

AMurderofMurderingCrows · 29/06/2025 10:28

Nope nope nope!

The thought of eating something that a child had their fingers in makes me feel sick 🤢

Snotty, dirty fingers. No thank you.

Quite right OP.

FreezeDriedStrawberries · 29/06/2025 10:28

x2boys · 29/06/2025 10:27

What's that got to do with this thread?

The woman looking in disgust at the sniffing?. Sounds exactly like the OP but just letting her eyes doing the talking instead of her gob?! 😁

FreezeDriedStrawberries · 29/06/2025 10:27

Started17June2025 · 29/06/2025 10:22

Obviously, I said, ‘kids will not just be kids. It’s unhygienic and poor /parenting and I would like for you to buy me a replacement.’

And as the parent, there would have ended my cooperation in any way.

Yeah, just nasty. Could have been the end of a long, shitty day of the kid having a bratty day and the parent trying to do something to cheer them both up.
Someone like the OP saying that about poor parenting could just be the tipping point, like an OP some days when mine were little that would have probably made me want to cry too.
I'd definitely have stewed over the situation and replayed for days in my head on some days.
There's a way of getting your point across without being an arsehole about it.

x2boys · 29/06/2025 10:27

DrowningInSyrup · 29/06/2025 10:25

Sorry to derail. But my DC (9) was sniffing a newspaper on the counter at the local shop. She loves the smell of newspapers. I laughed and said "what are you doing"? and a couple of people in the shop said I love the smell of books etc. One woman looked at her in utter disgust though. In hindsight I should have told her not to do it. Is this really gross? I think I might need to reassess my parenting skills.

What's that got to do with this thread?

x2boys · 29/06/2025 10:26

bohemianblasphemy · 29/06/2025 08:56

I would have just eaten the pastry tbh. I must be disgusting.

Good for you
You can't expect others too though
We have food hygiene rules for a reason .

DrowningInSyrup · 29/06/2025 10:25

Sorry to derail. But my DC (9) was sniffing a newspaper on the counter at the local shop. She loves the smell of newspapers. I laughed and said "what are you doing"? and a couple of people in the shop said I love the smell of books etc. One woman looked at her in utter disgust though. In hindsight I should have told her not to do it. Is this really gross? I think I might need to reassess my parenting skills.