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Asking a child’s mother to pay for replacement pastry?!

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HeatingFiddler · 29/06/2025 08:03

Yesterday at my local coffee shop/bakery I had my pastry on a tray on the counter and was waiting for my coffee. In front of me was a mum with two kids.

One of the kids was fairly young and kept touching everything including glass cabinets, tables, chairs, the self-serve cutlery. She also kept putting her fingers in her mouth and hair. As kids do.

Anyway. She suddenly grabbed my pastry! I shrieked (probably an over reaction, but god the child has literally just shove her fingers in her mouth moments before). Kids mum turned around and asked what the problem was. I said that her child had just touched my pastry, after putting her fingers in her mouth.
And she said, ‘oh. Kids will be kids. I’m sure it’s fine.’

Obviously, I said, ‘kids will not just be kids. It’s unhygienic and poor /parenting and I would like for you to buy me a replacement.’

She said ‘if it’s that big of an issue I’m sure you can ask the staff for a new one.’

At this point a member of staff arrived. I explained the situation and said, ‘I don’t think a replacement should come from you. This happened because the child was not being supervised. The child’s mother should pay.’

Anyway, in the end the child’s mother agreed to pay and she took the one her child had touched and they ate it and then left.

Was I being unreasonable to say the mother should pay and to refuse to eat the pastry after that? I genuinely don’t think The coffee shop should have had to front a replacement either - it wasn’t their error!

OP posts:
ChekhovsMum · 29/06/2025 14:35

A classic example of the facts being true but your delivery just being really, really mumsnetty.
Humiliating someone in front of their children/calling their parenting poor is the nuclear option. I think you should leave yourself some headroom.

Supergirl1958 · 29/06/2025 14:30

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 29/06/2025 14:08

After putting their hands in their mouth!

I’m not disputing that, read through my replies! I would willingly have offered to pay for another pastry for the OP!
You had a go at me for blowing things out of proportion, I’m merely stating that those calling the child out for ‘gobbing’ on the OPs food definitely are!!

YankSplaining · 29/06/2025 14:22

Both of you were unreasonable, in my opinion.

She was unreasonable to let her kid keep touching things. You were unreasonable to actually, literally shriek over a child touching a pastry, as if someone had just slapped you or you’d been doused with freezing water. Poor emotional regulation on your part.

She was unreasonable for excusing the pastry-touching with “kids will be kids.” You were unreasonable in thinking it was a good idea to call it “poor parenting.” Was it? Yes, but it was obviously going to make her even more defensive once you said that.

When the staff member arrived, you were not unreasonable to explain the situation, but you were unreasonable to try to dictate how the shop should handle the issue. If they had wanted to give you a replacement free of charge, that would have been a valid decision on their part.

You were not unreasonable to not want to eat the pastry the child had touched.

Jamesblonde2 · 29/06/2025 14:19

Some parents are really crappy and think their child’s “cute” “pesky” ways should be inflicted on us all. No. Bog off and parent.

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 29/06/2025 14:12

Plastictreees · 29/06/2025 13:53

@EverythingElseIsTaken How do you propose someone ‘shrieks’ quietly?

Shrieking over a child/toddler touching a pastry and being ‘disgusted’ seems very dramatic.

Shrieking is OTT but being disgusted over some kid putting their dirty hands over food seems reasonable.

ruethewhirl · 29/06/2025 14:09

JMSA · 29/06/2025 14:04

If there was a touchy-feely child directly in front of me, I’d move my food out of their reach.

But it shouldn't be on others to move their stuff out of the way, it's up to parents to teach their kids not to touch stuff.

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 29/06/2025 14:08

Supergirl1958 · 29/06/2025 13:52

Lol Never in my 30+ years on this earth have I known anyone to shriek quietly! The two just don’t go together. I’m not blowing anything out of proportion but if you really want to get someone on that line, I suggest looking at all
the people who have suggested a child ‘gobbed’ on the pastry when they in fact just touched it!

After putting their hands in their mouth!

QuickPeachPoet · 29/06/2025 14:08

HeatingFiddler · 29/06/2025 10:41

@Hallebere she said, 'kids will be kids,' and then went to turn back around again. That's what really got me. It was really dismissive.

If it had been my child, I would have been absolutely mortified.

Disgusting attitude. She should not have let her child put her dirty hands all over the counters and especially not on food that other people were going to eat.
Assuming she is tall enough to be able to reach your tray which you at average adult height are carrying, she is old enough to understand this. She is hardly a baby.

JMSA · 29/06/2025 14:04

If there was a touchy-feely child directly in front of me, I’d move my food out of their reach.

Plastictreees · 29/06/2025 13:53

@EverythingElseIsTaken How do you propose someone ‘shrieks’ quietly?

Shrieking over a child/toddler touching a pastry and being ‘disgusted’ seems very dramatic.

Supergirl1958 · 29/06/2025 13:52

EverythingElseIsTaken · 29/06/2025 13:50

No where in the OP is the word ‘loudly’ used. Stop trying to blow it out of proportion. It’s great that you can respond to being surprised and / or disgusted by something without making a single sound but it’s a perfectly normal reaction in my experience.

Lol Never in my 30+ years on this earth have I known anyone to shriek quietly! The two just don’t go together. I’m not blowing anything out of proportion but if you really want to get someone on that line, I suggest looking at all
the people who have suggested a child ‘gobbed’ on the pastry when they in fact just touched it!

EverythingElseIsTaken · 29/06/2025 13:50

Supergirl1958 · 29/06/2025 11:11

How do you know she was being entitled? The op shrieked loudly and the woman may have been trying to brush it off because she was embarrassed at the scene! None of us were there and we only have the OPs side!

No where in the OP is the word ‘loudly’ used. Stop trying to blow it out of proportion. It’s great that you can respond to being surprised and / or disgusted by something without making a single sound but it’s a perfectly normal reaction in my experience.

4PawsandATail · 29/06/2025 13:41

I don't blame you for shrieking. I'd have done the same if someone fingered my Greggs pastry.

I feel you, OP.

Started17June2025 · 29/06/2025 13:31

itsgettingweird · 29/06/2025 13:21

Whereas as a parent if my child had done that and i’d not have intervened quick enough I’d have been apologising and offering to replace it before the person had a chance to ask.

Edited

Interesting how everyone is different isn't it 🙂

itsgettingweird · 29/06/2025 13:21

Started17June2025 · 29/06/2025 10:22

Obviously, I said, ‘kids will not just be kids. It’s unhygienic and poor /parenting and I would like for you to buy me a replacement.’

And as the parent, there would have ended my cooperation in any way.

Whereas as a parent if my child had done that and i’d not have intervened quick enough I’d have been apologising and offering to replace it before the person had a chance to ask.

funinthesun19 · 29/06/2025 13:15

HeatingFiddler · 29/06/2025 12:47

@funinthesun19 No, they didn't offer another one.

Which is quite interesting now I think about it. They just waited for the woman to agree to purchase a new one. Now I'm wondering if that means they were thinking the same thing? It's a small business and they've raised their prices twice already this year. I know a lot of people think 'oh, well it' just a pastry,' but margins on coffee shops are pretty tight...

Ah in that case then yes it was right the mum paid for a new one for you.

You said “as kids do” and she said “kids will be kids”. Same thing really. No, nobody wants their pasty touching but it happened and sometimes kids misbehave. The mum should have apologised yes, but I’m still guessing you would have judged her anyway whether she did or not.

Dominoeffecter · 29/06/2025 13:13

Cherrytree86 · 29/06/2025 13:10

@Dominoeffecter

from a very young age children know it’s not ok to touch others food

I would’ve just apologised and paid for another one, all this vitriol isn’t necessary. It’s been blown out of proportion into shrieking, gobbing and being furious. I do know how children work, I have 3 and this scenario never arose so I’m a paragon of virtue who can’t be questioned 🙌🏻

Cherrytree86 · 29/06/2025 13:10

Dominoeffecter · 29/06/2025 13:08

Furious?

@Dominoeffecter

from a very young age children know it’s not ok to touch others food

Dominoeffecter · 29/06/2025 13:08

susanandlucypevensie · 29/06/2025 12:54

I'd have been furious with my child. They are old enough to know better, they've been rude and inconsiderate towards a stranger who is entitled to enjoy their coffee shop experience, they've embarrassed the hell out of me, and they've cost me money.

Furious?

ByMerryTiger · 29/06/2025 13:03

MaybeBabyMaybeNo · 29/06/2025 12:41

I’ve read it. 🤣 Your initial comment was irrelevant to what they’d said. You doubled down rather than admit that (or just stop), embarrassed yourself and now suddenly ‘can’t be bothered’ when there’s literally no response you could give that wouldn’t make you sound even more ridiculous.

I was very interested to see where they went next. 😆

I started a thread about people who do things like this, so it’s especially funny. Maybe I should send @Sloozy a link.

susanandlucypevensie · 29/06/2025 12:54

HeatingFiddler · 29/06/2025 12:33

@susanandlucypevensie no, she didn't. The mother barely engaged with her children at all tbh. She paid for the replacement, took her coffee, and then sat down at a table and went back to staring at her phone.

I'd have been furious with my child. They are old enough to know better, they've been rude and inconsiderate towards a stranger who is entitled to enjoy their coffee shop experience, they've embarrassed the hell out of me, and they've cost me money.

Dominoeffecter · 29/06/2025 12:50

Cherrytree86 · 29/06/2025 12:46

@Dominoeffecter

its the truth, soz!

Soz 😆

HeatingFiddler · 29/06/2025 12:47

@funinthesun19 No, they didn't offer another one.

Which is quite interesting now I think about it. They just waited for the woman to agree to purchase a new one. Now I'm wondering if that means they were thinking the same thing? It's a small business and they've raised their prices twice already this year. I know a lot of people think 'oh, well it' just a pastry,' but margins on coffee shops are pretty tight...

OP posts:
Cherrytree86 · 29/06/2025 12:46

Dominoeffecter · 29/06/2025 12:45

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@Dominoeffecter

its the truth, soz!

Dominoeffecter · 29/06/2025 12:45

Cherrytree86 · 29/06/2025 10:48

@Dominoeffecter

if there was spit aka gob on the child’s hands and she then immediately touched OP’s pastry then yes there is gob on her pastry

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