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Asking a child’s mother to pay for replacement pastry?!

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HeatingFiddler · 29/06/2025 08:03

Yesterday at my local coffee shop/bakery I had my pastry on a tray on the counter and was waiting for my coffee. In front of me was a mum with two kids.

One of the kids was fairly young and kept touching everything including glass cabinets, tables, chairs, the self-serve cutlery. She also kept putting her fingers in her mouth and hair. As kids do.

Anyway. She suddenly grabbed my pastry! I shrieked (probably an over reaction, but god the child has literally just shove her fingers in her mouth moments before). Kids mum turned around and asked what the problem was. I said that her child had just touched my pastry, after putting her fingers in her mouth.
And she said, ‘oh. Kids will be kids. I’m sure it’s fine.’

Obviously, I said, ‘kids will not just be kids. It’s unhygienic and poor /parenting and I would like for you to buy me a replacement.’

She said ‘if it’s that big of an issue I’m sure you can ask the staff for a new one.’

At this point a member of staff arrived. I explained the situation and said, ‘I don’t think a replacement should come from you. This happened because the child was not being supervised. The child’s mother should pay.’

Anyway, in the end the child’s mother agreed to pay and she took the one her child had touched and they ate it and then left.

Was I being unreasonable to say the mother should pay and to refuse to eat the pastry after that? I genuinely don’t think The coffee shop should have had to front a replacement either - it wasn’t their error!

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MammaTo · 29/06/2025 09:28

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I thought that too!

Dogaredabomb · 29/06/2025 09:27

Zombiefluff · 29/06/2025 09:25

But in OP’s made up story she wouldn’t have been able to go on her public tirade about poor parenting if the mother hadn’t brushed it off!

Yes, that's true. Also I'd like to know what type of made up pastry it was in the made up story.

Viviennemary · 29/06/2025 09:26

Since the cafe offered to replace it I think you should have left it at that and not caused an unpleasant scene.

KarmaKameelion · 29/06/2025 09:26

Areyouserioushuh · 29/06/2025 09:16

This is the sort of thing my toddler would do and i have eyes on her like a hawk. Some kids find it hard to listen at a young age and they are constantly exploring. I dont think its the mums fault, and i would have just asked the staff for another or....taken it as a good opportunity to go without some junk.

give that mum a break. Im sure she isnt a bad parent because her child touched your pastry. PLEASE!

She said it wasn’t a toddler.

if your child ruins someone’s food or any other item - you pay for it. It really is that simple

there was no need to be judgmental sayidn they should eat ‘junk’. It says a lot about you that you have twisted this to the fact the mother did nothing wrong but the op shouldn’t let sugar past her lips? Very weird.

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Sloozy · 29/06/2025 09:25

HeatingFiddler · 29/06/2025 08:26

I love the assumption that because we were both polite and articulate that it can’t have happened. Even when annoyed, being polite and articulate is still possible!

Being annoyed doesn’t give you the right to yell at people or be aggressive.

Yes I shrieked, most people probably would if a child that had just had their fingers in their mouth grabbed food that they had paid for!

According to your opening post you told the mother what happened was a result of her poor parenting.
That doesn’t sound terribly polite!

EverythingElseIsTaken · 29/06/2025 09:25

Shrieking? It an over reaction and total attention seeking behaviour on your part.

Really? I think it’s quite a common reaction to let out a little shriek when something unexpected happens. I did yesterday when I was engrossed in what I was doing and a ball suddenly bounced in front of me. I shrieked as I was surprised then picked up the ball tossed it back to my neighbours grandson, laughed and said he made me jump, he said sorry, he carried on playing and I carried on with what I was doing.

I don’t think OP was at all unreasonable.

Zombiefluff · 29/06/2025 09:25

WhyWouldAnyone · 29/06/2025 09:22

Its not the child touching something that makes her a bad parent, it's the lack of shits she gave about it! The decent thing would be to apologise and offer to pay for a replacement.

I don't get what's so difficult for people to understand about that, but I suspect it's the OP's use of the word 'shriek'. Whether you think that's an over reaction or not doesn't detract from the fact that the mother wasn't even bothered (so I highly doubt she'd be humiliated as implied by quote a few).

But in OP’s made up story she wouldn’t have been able to go on her public tirade about poor parenting if the mother hadn’t brushed it off!

WhyWouldAnyone · 29/06/2025 09:22

Areyouserioushuh · 29/06/2025 09:16

This is the sort of thing my toddler would do and i have eyes on her like a hawk. Some kids find it hard to listen at a young age and they are constantly exploring. I dont think its the mums fault, and i would have just asked the staff for another or....taken it as a good opportunity to go without some junk.

give that mum a break. Im sure she isnt a bad parent because her child touched your pastry. PLEASE!

Its not the child touching something that makes her a bad parent, it's the lack of shits she gave about it! The decent thing would be to apologise and offer to pay for a replacement.

I don't get what's so difficult for people to understand about that, but I suspect it's the OP's use of the word 'shriek'. Whether you think that's an over reaction or not doesn't detract from the fact that the mother wasn't even bothered (so I highly doubt she'd be humiliated as implied by quote a few).

Imenti · 29/06/2025 09:22

Fernie6491 · 29/06/2025 08:32

Not quite the same, but in our local Co-op a couple of years ago, all the pastries were in uncovered baskets at waist-level, where anyone (children especially), could touch, cough or sneeze over them. I contacted the head office to suggest transparent covers, for hygiene reasons.
Despite them responding, nothing has ever changed. I absolutely refuse to ever buy anything from those shelves. It's quite disgusting!

Edited

There are on shelves with a plastic slide door for each type of pastry or roll now! In mine anyway 😀

Dogaredabomb · 29/06/2025 09:21

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I agree, almost nothing really happens anymore. It's getting very tiresome.

Although I do shriek at pastries, I thought that was normal? Aibu?

HeatingFiddler · 29/06/2025 09:20

@ProfessionalPirate Not AI.😀

Child was about 5/6. Not a toddler.

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Auroraloves · 29/06/2025 09:17

YANBU.

i hope you got your pastry fix and that the bakery didn’t give any away for free

Areyouserioushuh · 29/06/2025 09:16

This is the sort of thing my toddler would do and i have eyes on her like a hawk. Some kids find it hard to listen at a young age and they are constantly exploring. I dont think its the mums fault, and i would have just asked the staff for another or....taken it as a good opportunity to go without some junk.

give that mum a break. Im sure she isnt a bad parent because her child touched your pastry. PLEASE!

Thunderpants88 · 29/06/2025 09:16

I would not have handled it as you did. It was immature

Shrieking? It an over reaction and total attention seeking behaviour on your part. This would have got my back up as a Mum. Also you critiquing my parenting wouldn’t have gone down well after you had ensured all eyes were on you.

If it were me I would have waited until they were seated and calm and gone over and given the Mum the pastry after buying a replacement and said “look I know how hard it is being a Mum and having your eyes on a million places. Your daughter had her hands on her mouth and grabbed my pastry earlier. She may as well have it now. In future maybe keep a closer eye on her in restaurants as I know some idiots would shriek and make a whole scene. Have a good one - she’s very cute

You would make your point, maybe envoke a bit of change in the Mum and do it all with kindness and graciousness. Ever heard the saying “you will attract more bees with honey”?

I was in a cafe recently with four children under 6. One of whom is just turned two and a 5 week old. The food took about 45 minutes and all I had ordered was one large fry for the kids and a salad! After the food came they were loosing it. Fighting over a piece of drawing paper, a jug of milk spilt on the floor, greasy ketchup hands and at that exact moment the toddler needed a nappy change and the baby woke for a feed. It was so hard! There was a table of young people beside me and one looked and smiled and said “you are a hero. And your doing so well”
another women came over and bought three ice creams for my older three as I was BF the baby.

I have never been so glad for some support and help. Kids are dicks at times and it is harder than most people remember. Cafes being a particularly stressful environment. Try and cut people just a bit of slack sometimes

And quit “shrieking” at anyone!

ProfessionalPirate · 29/06/2025 09:15

ShesTheAlbatross · 29/06/2025 08:58

Tbf she did only say that after the woman had shrugged it off. Shrugging off your child’s bratty behaviour is the poor parenting.

It is NOT bratty behaviour for a toddler to want to touch things, it is developmentally normal behaviour. This child is clearly very young if he’s still at the hands-in-mouth stage. Ideally the mum would have prevented it, but it only takes a 2 second lapse of concentration.

Thats assuming this is all real anyway. Frankly it reads like a poor AI written play.

RowsOfFlowers · 29/06/2025 09:15

proximalhumerous · 29/06/2025 09:10

So you think it's great parenting for your child to stick their fingers in someone else's food they've just bought because you weren't keeping an eye on them?

Unfortunately that is just what children do. Even the best parents in the world may miss a child doing this at some stage. When I was a baby, I used to poke my fingers into cakes at birthday parties all the time, much to the dismay of my mother. But it’s innocent really isn’t it. I eventually stopped doing this.

I really don’t think it’s the end of the world though, and I think context is important too. If that’s all the child is doing that constitutes bad behaviour / parenting, then I think that’s somewhat extreme…

WaltzingWaters · 29/06/2025 09:14

Hufflemuff · 29/06/2025 08:37

If you'd have told me I was exhibiting poor parenting, you'd be purchasing your own replacement and I probably would have told you where to stick it. That's just plain rude.

However, without that accusation I would have purchased you a new pastry and apologised as soon as it happened.

But if the mum seemed to think it was fine and dismiss the situation OP had to then go on to tell her that, no, it wasn’t okay, and it was down to the poor parenting that she now needed to buy her a replacement. OP handled this situation just fine.

If my child had grabbed the pastry, because yes, kids will be kids and sometimes even with good parenting they’re fast! I’d have immediately said “oh gosh, I’m so sorry, let me buy you a new one”. So OP hopefully wouldn’t have had to go on to say it was because of poor parenting on my part.

ThriveIn2025 · 29/06/2025 09:13

I wouldn’t have eaten it but I probably would have moved my tray away from the child as soon as I saw them behaving that way.

I also wouldn’t have asked the parent to pay, I know that’s wimpy (I am). If it was a chain I would have asked the staff if they would replace. Maybe not the “right” response but I couldn’t tell the parent to pay, I would be too afraid.

AndImBrit · 29/06/2025 09:11

SoScarletItWas · 29/06/2025 08:55

I would definitely emit a sound of protest and disgust. I wouldn’t call it a shriek (I’d save that for the Sistine Chapel) but definitely an ‘Uugghh-ohhh’ type of noise. And I’d ask the parent to get me a fresh one.

This. I could be described as shrieking every time my dog goes to eat something she shouldn’t - it’s just a noise of shock sounding like “wah” to get her attention and that I can articulate quicker than my brain can form words.

I’d probably do exactly the same in this scenario, a sound of shock designed to stop the kid touching my stuff, but probably a bit too late to be effective.

WhyWouldAnyone · 29/06/2025 09:11

Tandora · 29/06/2025 08:46

Oh what absolute rubbish .

Small children sometimes touch things they shouldn’t.

Only unpleasant and deeply uptight people go around “shrieking” because a small child has touched their pastry and accusing random mothers of poor parenting.

Jesus.

Yes they touch things they shouldn't. The decent reaction from a decent parent and human would be an apology and the offer to buy a replacement. Only a deeply unpleasant person wouldn't give a shit.

I doubt the OP meant she screamed for her life.

proximalhumerous · 29/06/2025 09:10

Hufflemuff · 29/06/2025 08:37

If you'd have told me I was exhibiting poor parenting, you'd be purchasing your own replacement and I probably would have told you where to stick it. That's just plain rude.

However, without that accusation I would have purchased you a new pastry and apologised as soon as it happened.

So you think it's great parenting for your child to stick their fingers in someone else's food they've just bought because you weren't keeping an eye on them?

RowsOfFlowers · 29/06/2025 09:09

Tandora · 29/06/2025 08:59

Yes but not everyone is perfect 100% of the time. Controlling small children is hard and relentless.

Is the reaction to -

a) “shriek”. (As a pp pointed out I’m sure if the small child shrieked for some equally trivial reason the OP would have taken issue with that too!)
b) Confront a random mother for “poor parenting”.
c) Insist that the solution has to be resolved in the way you would like, which involves making a point to punish said mother for her short comings?

I refuse to believe people are arseholes like this is real life.

Edited

To be fair, if it was me, I don’t think I would have shrieked, but had I of noticed, I’m not sure how I would’ve responded. I think I’d of felt too awkward and embarrassed to ask them to pay for a new one. I like to imagine myself saying excuse me, sorry your child has just poked my pastry…

RowsOfFlowers · 29/06/2025 09:06

YANBU. That mother is ridiculous! How unhygienic and expecting you to be fine with that is poor as well.

Hobnobswantshernameback · 29/06/2025 09:06

and everyone stood up and cheered
🙄

Zombiefluff · 29/06/2025 09:05

Concretejungle1 · 29/06/2025 08:50

Child not supervised, touching all the food to sell? Yes why was the child not supervised? I would not want to eat anything a random child has touched either! I feel bad for the shop.

There’s nothing to suggest the child wasn’t supervised. A kid can’t be chain in a pram until they are a teenager. The toddler was standing beside their parent.
The child was touching chairs and glass cabinets, hardly “all the food”.