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Asking a child’s mother to pay for replacement pastry?!

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HeatingFiddler · 29/06/2025 08:03

Yesterday at my local coffee shop/bakery I had my pastry on a tray on the counter and was waiting for my coffee. In front of me was a mum with two kids.

One of the kids was fairly young and kept touching everything including glass cabinets, tables, chairs, the self-serve cutlery. She also kept putting her fingers in her mouth and hair. As kids do.

Anyway. She suddenly grabbed my pastry! I shrieked (probably an over reaction, but god the child has literally just shove her fingers in her mouth moments before). Kids mum turned around and asked what the problem was. I said that her child had just touched my pastry, after putting her fingers in her mouth.
And she said, ‘oh. Kids will be kids. I’m sure it’s fine.’

Obviously, I said, ‘kids will not just be kids. It’s unhygienic and poor /parenting and I would like for you to buy me a replacement.’

She said ‘if it’s that big of an issue I’m sure you can ask the staff for a new one.’

At this point a member of staff arrived. I explained the situation and said, ‘I don’t think a replacement should come from you. This happened because the child was not being supervised. The child’s mother should pay.’

Anyway, in the end the child’s mother agreed to pay and she took the one her child had touched and they ate it and then left.

Was I being unreasonable to say the mother should pay and to refuse to eat the pastry after that? I genuinely don’t think The coffee shop should have had to front a replacement either - it wasn’t their error!

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EmeraldShamrock000 · 18/03/2026 08:13

TheKeatingFive · 18/03/2026 08:08

You shrieked in the middle of a cafe because a small child touched your pastry? Are you normally this much of a drama queen?

I read these threads as things that never happened in RL. If a feral child was loitering near any normal person’s food, they’d protect their food, surely while watching the feral child like a hawk you’d notice the wet fingers coming for your plate.
Drama lamas.

TheKeatingFive · 18/03/2026 08:08

You shrieked in the middle of a cafe because a small child touched your pastry? Are you normally this much of a drama queen?

LadyVioletBridgerton · 18/03/2026 07:59

I’m impressed that you stood up for yourself actually OP. That was exactly the right thing to do.

JohnTheRevelator · 30/06/2025 17:19

Urgh. That's gross.

ruethewhirl · 30/06/2025 17:08

Supergirl1958 · 29/06/2025 10:46

I don’t know! I wasn’t there! Regardless of whether it was or it wasn’t, to be publicly called out on your parenting is actually
humiliating, it obviously caused a scene because staff had to get involved!
I absolutely would have replaced the pastry by the way but I would not have appreciated the rudeness of the op calling my parenting poor!

I bet it would have stayed with you, though. She shouldn't have needed calling out on letting her kid touch food that wasn't theirs.

Supergirl1958 · 30/06/2025 16:45

MarioLink · 30/06/2025 11:08

Those saying OP was wrong to react then speak to and "humiliate" the mother as it won't change her or the child's behaviour are missing the point a bit. Great but unlikely behaviour will be changed but OP got a new pastry without strange child spit on which was what was required to put things right.

I have said both so don’t think I’ve missed the point at all.

MarioLink · 30/06/2025 11:08

Those saying OP was wrong to react then speak to and "humiliate" the mother as it won't change her or the child's behaviour are missing the point a bit. Great but unlikely behaviour will be changed but OP got a new pastry without strange child spit on which was what was required to put things right.

Littlecaf · 30/06/2025 10:40

Not sure why my post was deleted upthread. I just thought it sounded a bit too contrived and made up! I wasn’t rude or abusive or used discriminatory language or any of the other rules, I’d never do that. Many others thought it sounded made up too and their posts still remain!) It reads like a scene from a soap opera or something.

FWIW, OP I think you were a little over handed and probably should have just been a little sympathetic to the parents situation. I’m generally not pro confrontation, and personally would have been kinder to the parent.

HeatingFiddler · 30/06/2025 07:45

I went to sleep early last night and came back to a tonne of notifications from this thread…and it’s just the same 2/3 posters arguing!

On another note I’m off to the bakery/coffee shop for my sourdough and my latte. May get another pastry but not sure I have it in me for an argument this early

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WickWood · 29/06/2025 22:03

@Cherrytree86 Of course not, no, but a quick lick of a pastry is just not something I could bring myself to be that arsed about, my 8 month old has made sure I'm more comfortable with bodily fluids, after being pissed, sicked and shat on (granted by my own child) my threshold has lowered!

Ewock · 29/06/2025 21:25

Supergirl1958 · 29/06/2025 19:27

Speaking to her is fine. The OP was not discrete! She clearly raised the point loudly as she shrieked and staff from the establishment had to get involved!

And again, if she had been watching her child, as she should have been, this wouldn't have happened. Entirely the mothers own fault for allowing her child to do what they wanted in the cafe, including handling other customers food. Disgusting

MaybeBabyMaybeNo · 29/06/2025 21:24

Supergirl1958 · 29/06/2025 20:24

Because you were judgemental and rude and called out my parenting which has absolutely nothing to do with anything I’ve said at all. You said that I am clearly an entitled person who lets my child touch things and it be fine!

I have made several attempts for you to let it go and you chose to get personal and make several baseless claims!

As it goes I’m going to let it go now, please stop replying to me!

There are some genuinely funny exchanges on this thread. Discrete ones. 🤣

MaybeBabyMaybeNo · 29/06/2025 21:21

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Supergirl1958 · 29/06/2025 20:24

nomas · 29/06/2025 20:21

As you’ve reported my post for some reason, maybe just give it a rest now.

Because you were judgemental and rude and called out my parenting which has absolutely nothing to do with anything I’ve said at all. You said that I am clearly an entitled person who lets my child touch things and it be fine!

I have made several attempts for you to let it go and you chose to get personal and make several baseless claims!

As it goes I’m going to let it go now, please stop replying to me!

nomas · 29/06/2025 20:21

Supergirl1958 · 29/06/2025 20:18

I never said that it was!!! Again please reread all of my posts and quote where I have said this!

As you’ve reported my post for some reason, maybe just give it a rest now.

Supergirl1958 · 29/06/2025 20:18

nomas · 29/06/2025 20:18

Still no explanation on why your use of ‘discrete’ is ironic, eh?

I never said that it was!!! Again please reread all of my posts and quote where I have said this!

nomas · 29/06/2025 20:18

Supergirl1958 · 29/06/2025 20:14

You have misread my post entirely! I said the use of the word ‘mate’ was ironic!

You are clearly a troll who likes to make assumptions of people with baseless claims! Several times today I have made it abundantly clear that the op was NOT unreasonable to ask for a replacement pastry! I absolutely DO NOT think it is fine for my child to touch anything that belongs to anyone else and it be fine! You know absolutely nothing about me, my life or the battles I have had with my child who has significant SEND and SEMH issues so please, get off your moral high horse and judge someone else because your accusations are completely baseless and unfounded! PLEASE LEAVE ME ALONE!!

Still no explanation on why your use of ‘discrete’ is ironic, eh?

Supergirl1958 · 29/06/2025 20:14

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You have misread my post entirely! I said the use of the word ‘mate’ was ironic!

You are clearly a troll who likes to make assumptions of people with baseless claims! Several times today I have made it abundantly clear that the op was NOT unreasonable to ask for a replacement pastry! I absolutely DO NOT think it is fine for my child to touch anything that belongs to anyone else and it be fine! You know absolutely nothing about me, my life or the battles I have had with my child who has significant SEND and SEMH issues so please, get off your moral high horse and judge someone else because your accusations are completely baseless and unfounded! PLEASE LEAVE ME ALONE!!

ByMerryTiger · 29/06/2025 20:12

Sloozy · 29/06/2025 16:59

@ByMerryTiger
@MaybeBabyMaybeNo

Oh for heaven’s sake 😂
Okay, to explain again…

@ByMerryTiger said, in reply to a pp describing OP’s behaviour as confrontational,
“She didn’t just wander up to a stranger and start shouting, did she?
If someone’s parenting is affecting you, and they’ve brushed it off when you raised it, then pointing it out and demanding they sort it isn’t some societal breakdown. It’s entirely reasonable. The fact you recoil from that, and would rather everyone bottle it up then post later on Mumsnet about how they were too polite to say anything, is exactly the mindset I’m questioning. It must be soul crushing, being that passive all the time.”

Her comment supported the OP’s actions as justified. Not only that, she said people who didn’t demand the incident was sorted in the manner OP had, and instead remained quiet at the time because of politeness, were much too passive.

I too think it was fine for OP to ask for a replacement pastry. However, I don’t agree with the way @ByMerryTiger condones OP’s behaviour as I think her attitude was over the top. I was especially taken aback when OP described herself as behaving politely. It speaks to a lack of insight into her own behaviour.

I was trying to convey that when I replied with
“Shrieking and then insisting on a replacement pastry, while fine and probably justified, is not usually the type of behaviour described as ‘polite’ though (OP described her interaction with the mother as such).”

Obviously I should have been clearer.
I was disagreeing with @ByMerryTiger that OP’s attitude or manner was okay, though getting a replacement pastry was fine.
I thought it particularly ironic that OP described her behaviour as ‘polite’ while @ByMerryTiger portrayed the exact opposite sort of behaviour as being too passive and polite.

So I do think what I said was relevant, even if it seems it wasn’t especially clear 😅

You can send me that link if you want @ByMerryTiger, the thread sounds interesting.

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Supergirl1958 · 29/06/2025 20:01

nomas · 29/06/2025 19:55

You’re not making any sense. If you agree OP made the noise involuntarily, why are you still banging on about her being ‘discrete’?

I am not your mate, and you are the annoying one, repeating yourself to every poster who calls you out.

And it’s spelt ‘discreet’ in your context. HTH.

🙄 I’ve literally had quite a few people agree with the points I’ve made.

i also used the word mate to be ironic, I thought that would be clear. You legitimately don’t have to comment on anything I say. We don’t agree, we have differing opinions! The OP was rude, AFTER the shriek and drew attention to the situation so much so that staff from the establishment became involved. She then had the audacity to call out the woman’s parenting based on the negative snippet of information she chose to furnish us with!

Freddl6 · 29/06/2025 19:58

But oikewise i dont think the mum shoukd have bought the cake and given it to the kid as its the same. (When we had to buy stuff i didnt give it to them well the bats maybe but the kid didnt actually want them anyway). I hadnt realised there was a pen there

Freddl6 · 29/06/2025 19:56

Its poor parenting or child with adhd - mine used to touch everything. I had to pay for some chocolate eggs one stuck fingwr in and some bats at charity shop one drew on.
In this case it could just as easily be a coffee the kid was touching. Personally i think many toddlers are too young for coffee shops. Often not a lot of space and hot drinks.
I definitely would nt have given the kid the cake or part of it as that would really send the wrong message about not supposed to be touching something you arent buying

nomas · 29/06/2025 19:55

Supergirl1958 · 29/06/2025 19:50

I do, what about my post suggests that I don’t. It was making a loud enough point so cafe staff had to get involved that made it not discrete.

mate, we don’t agree. That much is clear! Now go annoy someone else on this post, or enjoy the rest of your Sunday!

You’re not making any sense. If you agree OP made the noise involuntarily, why are you still banging on about her being ‘discrete’?

I am not your mate, and you are the annoying one, repeating yourself to every poster who calls you out.

And it’s spelt ‘discreet’ in your context. HTH.

nomas · 29/06/2025 19:53

Supergirl1958 · 29/06/2025 18:43

Where did I say she shouted? I said she should have been more discrete. The OP literally admits she shrieked! She called the woman out enough that it drew attention to the situation and staff from the cafe got involved. Therefore she was clearly not discrete! There is a difference between being discrete and whispering!

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