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To not provide DSS with a room

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Moorside111 · 28/06/2025 22:30

Currently living in rented accommodation with partner, our baby, my daughter from ex marriage and his son from his ex marriage. Both step children are 50/50 with their other parents. We currently live in a large house with lots of space and a bedroom for everyone. But the cost of this rent and associated bills is astronomical and we need to either buy our own 4 bed house or rent somewhere cheaper.

My partner earns double what I earn and works long hours. I have a less demanding job and so do most of the housework and childcare for our baby. This might sound ok- apart from the fact that we pay half each of the rent and bills for our current home. So I really feel like he’s onto a pretty good deal. I used to do childcare and school runs for DSS too and recently stopped….but that is another story.

I own a three bed semi, bought with the proceeds of my divorce, which I lived in with my daughter before I met my partner. It’s a lovely house which I renovated and is in a nice desirable area. It’s been rented out but the tenants have given notice to leave in August.

My partner sold his marital home, gave his ex wife 2/3 of the equity and has since burnt through the rest of the money. He has nothing for a deposit for a new home and so we need to sell mine, which would give us a decent deposit for a new 4 bed house.

Ive decided that I don’t want to move to another cheaper rented property, they’re rarely decorated nicely, don’t feel like home to me and I’d probably have to live in a less nice area to get the size we’d want for a cheaper price. So I’ve decided to move back into my 3 bed semi, spruce it up a little bit and eventually sell it- I’m estimating this might take 12 months or so. My daughter loves this house, it’s near school, friends and her dad. She’s looking forward to going back to her old room. When I initially told my partner that I thought this was the best idea, I discussed it with a view to us all moving there together- it would be cramped and not ideal- but it’s a home and only a stepping stone to us buying somewhere bigger. I suggested we put our 1yo baby in with us and decorate the 3rd bedroom for his son. He didn’t like this idea, said I wouldn’t put my daughter in the small room so why should he put his son. He said he’d rent a house so that his son could have more room and when his son was at his mums he would stay with me and our baby.
He suggested that his son and our baby could have the second double room and my daughter have the small room. This might be where I’m being selfish as I won’t compromise on my daughter- the room was hers to begin with, I don’t want her impacted by my choice to blend a family. She was happy to move in with partner and son btw and they all get on well so there’s no issues there. But I also selfishly don’t see why I should impact my daughter for someone else’s child.

We left it like this until this week where he’s realised the move is imminent and he’s now decided he wants to move to the three bed house with me. He said he doesn’t want to live apart from me and our baby- and I don’t want to live apart either. However, I’ve now planned to have a bedroom for each of my children. I going back to work this week, our 1yo is starting nursery, he’s a light sleeper and for the sake of both of us I think he needs his own room for a good nights sleep instead of us waking each other up in a shared room.

my partner has now decided he’ll convert the integral garage for his son so that he’ll have plenty of space. I initially said this would be ok but I’m now feeling uneasy about this too. He’s planning on doing this renovation himself. I didn’t think much damage could be done until he said he was planning on taking the garage door out and getting our friend to fit in some french doors so it would look more like a room. I have two issues with this:

1- friend has done work for me before and it’s shoddy. I worry what the finish of this DIY project will be.

2- the garage door was only put in a couple of years ago, it was expensive, it’s remote electric and matches the front door. The garage was newly rendered and it all looks smart from the road.

AIBU to say no to this project? It feels selfish and I’m basically saying I won’t allow a room to be made for DSS. Creating the room allows us to stay together and still have DSS over to stay. Surely lots of people would do anything to keep the whole family together.

i feel selfish, but also a bit angry that everything has fallen to me- childcare, bills, providing a home. Now I’m potentially damaging my home, my only asset, so that I can house his son.

I realise the phrase ‘his son’ sounds horrid from a step mum and it’s not a reflection of how I am at home. I care for him, treat him the same as my daughter and son. But in reality he has a mother and father- and it feels like his father’s job to ensure he has a house big enough for his family.

OP posts:
SheilaFentiman · 29/06/2025 19:12

Both with the asset of your old marital home's income

My understanding is that OP bought the three bedroom house for her and her DD with her share of the marital assets, that split would have been determined at the time (whether it was straight 50/50, house equity adjusted for pension etc) - so it is very patriarchal of you to say that the rental income from this home is the XH subsidising the OP.

Mumptynumpty · 29/06/2025 19:08

If your income is only equal because of your rent from your property and income from your exH then your exH is subsidising your new partner. Both with the asset of your old marital home's income and by giving you money which you count as input to your current DP.

You also spent savings to make up any deficit whilst pregnant! Lady you are not thinking clearly and nice as he may be (of course he is, he wouldn't be as successful if he wasn't) he is milking you like a good 'un.

I suspect you are so deep in that in 2 years that will be a post about 'why did I not see this man for exactly what he is, a gold digger?'.

SereneHare · 29/06/2025 19:06

Agonyaunt53 · 29/06/2025 18:27

You are either a family or you're not. You cannot play favourites, regardless of feelings. You have to accept that you're back in the house because you want to be. He earns more than you and he seems happy to support you and your daughter. If you can't behave as a family, you shouldn't be together. His son deserves better.

It's not about favourites, it's about the practicalities if life. A decent chunk of the 3+ bed housing stock has unequal sized bedrooms. Do you think every family (blended or not) can afford to convert the attic or garage into a larger bedroom? Or do they just have to accept that someone gets the box room? Perhaps they should all sleep on the kitchen floor or in the garden shed together so it's equal?

Their income is comparable. OP has a salary, spousal money and rental income. He's not supporting her financially.

ThisCyanPoet · 29/06/2025 19:04

If you sell your home and buy with him, you absolutely must get something drawn up to ensure that you get your contribution back if you ever separated. Get this done before you buy anywhere and if he won’t sign it, DO NOT buy a house with him. You’ve clearly worked hard to provide for your kids and without something in writing, he’ll walk away with half. You never think they’d do it, but you can’t predict (and I cannot stress this enough) how badly someone will behave towards you after you split. As an unmarried couple, you have less rights and will get half or you will lose it fighting him in court.

GiveDogBone · 29/06/2025 18:55

You’ll need planning permission to remove the garage door and replace it with French doors. That’s before you get to the building regs.

thepariscrimefiles · 29/06/2025 18:54

Agonyaunt53 · 29/06/2025 18:27

You are either a family or you're not. You cannot play favourites, regardless of feelings. You have to accept that you're back in the house because you want to be. He earns more than you and he seems happy to support you and your daughter. If you can't behave as a family, you shouldn't be together. His son deserves better.

He definitely isn't supporting her. They split everything 50/50 even though he earns twice as much as her and OP still paid 50% of everything when she was on maternity leave. She says that, due to that, she has no savings left.

She also does all the cooking, cleaning and child care and she used to do two separate school runs to take her daughter and his son to school. He just goes to work. He's got a really cushy number.

SereneHare · 29/06/2025 18:50

Greenvases · 29/06/2025 17:49

Of course he will move in, but probably strop.
OP will let him and probably fawn about him and his huge sacrifice moving in to her house.

She'll eventually sell her house, marry him, and her house and her daughters original inheritance will be diluted 3 ways, if she's lucky to get anything.

Tale as old as time on MN, sadly.

Only on MN do you have women choosing to have babies after a good decade, with a new loser. In real life women have mostly far too much sense to want to start back at the baby stage a decade plus on.

I really hope the OP will refldct on how much he used her post partum as a skivvy driver for his child.

No man that genuinely gave a damn about you would dream of using you like that.

90 minute round trip for a new baby?.
Unbelievable.

I bet he's a great Dad though.....

MascaraGirl · 29/06/2025 18:50

I think he will either rent somewhere of his own or accept the smaller bedroom for his son (which again, is a fine bedroom that I’m sure children across the country live full time in)

it bothers me that he is happy to have the family living apart if his son cannot have the biggest bedroom

CherubEarrings · 29/06/2025 18:44

SereneHare · 29/06/2025 18:30

It’s also been pointed out that any stamp duty, legal fees etc would have to come from the equity in my house

I missed this little gem on the first read through. It's 'been pointed out' by who OP?

This is weapons grade cocklodger fuckery. He can't/won't even contribute to the costs of moving either? Who paid the deposit on the rental you are currently in? As if I even need to ask.

Cocklodging is by consent OP. You can put an end to this shit ❤

And possibly Capital Gains Tax depending on how long have rented it out.

wfhwfh · 29/06/2025 18:38

SheilaFentiman · 29/06/2025 18:31

He really isn’t supporting her and her DD. Op was doing fine with a teaching job and a mortgage payment of £600 pcm on a three bed house before she met him and before he burned through her savings by only paying 50% of bills when she wasn’t earning on maternity leave with their baby.

I am not as down on the DP as many on this thread but supportive is not a description I would use!

I agree with this 100%. The OP had to fund her own maternity leave for HIS baby. Her partner might earn a decent salary but he isn’t supporting his own baby - let alone the OP’s DD.

BluntLion · 29/06/2025 18:31

The fact that he burned through his divorce money so quickly is a red flag. Be careful OP.

SheilaFentiman · 29/06/2025 18:31

Agonyaunt53 · 29/06/2025 18:27

You are either a family or you're not. You cannot play favourites, regardless of feelings. You have to accept that you're back in the house because you want to be. He earns more than you and he seems happy to support you and your daughter. If you can't behave as a family, you shouldn't be together. His son deserves better.

He really isn’t supporting her and her DD. Op was doing fine with a teaching job and a mortgage payment of £600 pcm on a three bed house before she met him and before he burned through her savings by only paying 50% of bills when she wasn’t earning on maternity leave with their baby.

I am not as down on the DP as many on this thread but supportive is not a description I would use!

SereneHare · 29/06/2025 18:30

It’s also been pointed out that any stamp duty, legal fees etc would have to come from the equity in my house

I missed this little gem on the first read through. It's 'been pointed out' by who OP?

This is weapons grade cocklodger fuckery. He can't/won't even contribute to the costs of moving either? Who paid the deposit on the rental you are currently in? As if I even need to ask.

Cocklodging is by consent OP. You can put an end to this shit ❤

Devianinc · 29/06/2025 18:27

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 29/06/2025 18:08

As @HopscotchBanana said

"By the way OP, you do realise you are basically subsidising him right? By paying way over your share for things he could do/afford without you, you are doing no different than effectively directly paying for his fancy car each month. Where's your fancy car..."

I think you have to be VERY careful that you are not being financially screwed here. You have to make your kids futures the priority here and you are subsidising this man.

He may be lovely but he "burnt through" his one third equity and now has no deposit. He chose a big 4 bedroom rental and you paid 50% of this rent and bills. He earns twice what you do and yet has no spare cash. At the same time you have used your SAVINGS to subsidize him whilst you were on maternity leave with his child. HUGE RED FLAG.

Now he's talking about you both buying a bigger house together using all your equity. Even with ringfencing deposits etc... when you own your own nice home with a manageable mortgage

As well as paying 50% of the expenses.. Your also doing most of the childcare and house work. Why are you expected to pay 50% on maternity leave? He was happy for you to use up all your savings to subsidize him. That's disgraceful.

The garage conversion sounds daft and unworkable and will ruin the expensive work already done. I'd refuse the friend's shoddy workmanship right off.

And spousal maintenance is intended for your daughters benefit - not to subsidize your partner. You said that £1000 from your rental went to subsidise his bigger rental... imagine what savings you could have made for your DD and baby if you'd stayed in your own house for that time.

He may be lovely etc.... but you are doing most of the work and proportionately paying more than him... you talk about paying for your two children.. but one of them is jointly his!!

Sorry OP but stop and think very very carefully before you get emeshed in housing a man who cannot manage his finances, yet is quite entitled about what he and his son should have and that you should provide it.

You are currently indepedent, and able to manage your outgoings. That is a valuable position to be in. Please don't throw your independence away to be with a man who cannot manage his finances properly.

Edited

Everything you said with bells on. The honeymoon stage does go away. Nothing can stop that. What you love about him now you might hate later. He’s a user. You don’t need a man to make you happy.

Agonyaunt53 · 29/06/2025 18:27

You are either a family or you're not. You cannot play favourites, regardless of feelings. You have to accept that you're back in the house because you want to be. He earns more than you and he seems happy to support you and your daughter. If you can't behave as a family, you shouldn't be together. His son deserves better.

Retiredfromearlyyears · 29/06/2025 18:16

I agree with many of the other posters. On no account should you buy another house with your partner at the moment. Regardless of who pays what it could be considered joint property and you could have an awful difficult time if things go South. I wouldn't allow the conversion of my garage either unless it was professionally done. If it's a rubbishy,gerry built job,it may make your house hard to sell on when you do want to . Just "Ca Canny" with this one!

JustASmallBear · 29/06/2025 18:12

Moorside111 · 29/06/2025 13:45

Yes it’s integral- there is garden on the other side of the garage though so a window could be put there.
it would have to be looked into properly and perhaps it’s not even viable. I highly doubt DP will want to go to that much trouble anyway.
I think he will either rent somewhere of his own or accept the smaller bedroom for his son (which again, is a fine bedroom that I’m sure children across the country live full time in)

at this point and after hearing everyone’s opinions, I won’t be disagreeing he says he will rent somewhere else 😊

I think he'll move in to your home.

I very much doubt he'll be into the idea of paying 100% of anything, such as his own rent!

Anonymousforthisone2025 · 29/06/2025 18:11

Pinkflower100 · 28/06/2025 22:37

Do not sell your house to buy you all a bigger one when he has burned through his money!!!

This

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 29/06/2025 18:08

Moorside111 · 29/06/2025 13:00

Yes, I used savings to cover my wage for 12 months- they just about got me to the end- I have no more savings now

As @HopscotchBanana said

"By the way OP, you do realise you are basically subsidising him right? By paying way over your share for things he could do/afford without you, you are doing no different than effectively directly paying for his fancy car each month. Where's your fancy car..."

I think you have to be VERY careful that you are not being financially screwed here. You have to make your kids futures the priority here and you are subsidising this man.

He may be lovely but he "burnt through" his one third equity and now has no deposit. He chose a big 4 bedroom rental and you paid 50% of this rent and bills. He earns twice what you do and yet has no spare cash. At the same time you have used your SAVINGS to subsidize him whilst you were on maternity leave with his child. HUGE RED FLAG.

Now he's talking about you both buying a bigger house together using all your equity. Even with ringfencing deposits etc... when you own your own nice home with a manageable mortgage

As well as paying 50% of the expenses.. Your also doing most of the childcare and house work. Why are you expected to pay 50% on maternity leave? He was happy for you to use up all your savings to subsidize him. That's disgraceful.

The garage conversion sounds daft and unworkable and will ruin the expensive work already done. I'd refuse the friend's shoddy workmanship right off.

And spousal maintenance is intended for your daughters benefit - not to subsidize your partner. You said that £1000 from your rental went to subsidise his bigger rental... imagine what savings you could have made for your DD and baby if you'd stayed in your own house for that time.

He may be lovely etc.... but you are doing most of the work and proportionately paying more than him... you talk about paying for your two children.. but one of them is jointly his!!

Sorry OP but stop and think very very carefully before you get emeshed in housing a man who cannot manage his finances, yet is quite entitled about what he and his son should have and that you should provide it.

You are currently indepedent, and able to manage your outgoings. That is a valuable position to be in. Please don't throw your independence away to be with a man who cannot manage his finances properly.

JustASmallBear · 29/06/2025 18:05

Moorside111 · 29/06/2025 13:00

Yes, I used savings to cover my wage for 12 months- they just about got me to the end- I have no more savings now

Oh, OP!

And yet you think you've not made any poor decisions.

This man has really got himself a cushy little number with you paying for so much, doing all the household work, and you just tootling along thinking how nice it would be if he started saving money.

You even did all the stepson stuff until recently because he let you get on with it. Anything that makes his life easy.

PunkyRubyLemur · 29/06/2025 18:04

Your husband is a selfish loser and you are ridiculous for putting up with him

Blondeshavemorefun · 29/06/2025 17:59

Notsuchafattynow · 29/06/2025 10:53

Did you post before OP re the pick up / drop off situation (and mat leave)?

If so I remember MN telling you your DP and his ex were taking you for a ride.

If you are the same poster, my advice would be to leave the relationship.

Have you asked the question, why should DSS get the biggest room when he is there less than 50% of the time?

I rem that thread q

MounjaroMounjaro · 29/06/2025 17:55

I think he'll move in with you and not pay rent, but moan his head off that it's not fair. The man landed on his feet when he met you and he won't let go easily.

I wouldn't let him put a penny into any renovations - you will bitterly regret that if you do. The end of your relationship seems inevitable and again, he will get every penny out of you. He won't just want the money back, he'll want the amount the value of the house has increased, too.

I just can't understand why so many women on here put up with selfish lazy greedy men who live off them financially. Date them if you want, but why live with them?

outerspacepotato · 29/06/2025 17:55

Oh shit, is he afraid that if he moves into a rental with his son, you'll file a claim for child maintenance?

"90 minute round trip for a new baby?.
Unbelievable."

If she did that twice a day, that would be 3 hours in a car seat daily for her baby. WTF.

CherubEarrings · 29/06/2025 17:50

AndSoFinally · 29/06/2025 17:43

Don't take the garage door off and brick it up. Just disconnect the power and build a stud wall right behind it. You won't need building regs if you turn it back to a garage before you leave

You will need building regs if making a garage into a bedroom

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