Why are toxic men great in bed?

This. You are simply just another notch on their bedpost and they are more experienced.

Good sex varies by individual; some are intense, others sensual. From my experience, true enjoyment comes with the complete package.

Maybe (hopefully) you and your friends have not stuck around for long in relationships with toxic men so the sex has never progressed beyond the early, heady days? Maybe toxic men have to be good at sex or they wouldn't get partners at all?

They're not. They're as selfish and demanding for little to no return in bed as they are out of it.

Practice

They also need a skill that will reel women in keep them coming back for more and potentially put a roof over their head

The most amazing sex I ever had was with a trainee accountant. He was so nice and so straight I couldn't handle it but god we had the best sex.

A lot of men I know would say the same thing about toxic women.

YANBU, I think it's a thing @Sexlessandconfused.

Could it be that the bad boys have less emotion in the act, hence their longevity, the men who actually care find it more overwhelming?

Mine was just so utterly gorgeous and there was so much chemistry that it was amazing even though at the beginning he was quite clumsy.

I've been with men who knew what they were doing so technically it was good but it was still rubbish because the chemistry wasn't there. I never understand women who think good sex is more to do with technique....every woman likes it slightly different and most men are far too rough for me and need teaching.

I guess because bring good in bed is a what their self esteem is built on. They don’t care about being the nice guy. So they work at being good in bed. The nice guys probably put more work into other stuff.

Also it’s easier to be good in bed than be a good boyfriend/in touch with emotions so they go for that

Yes I agree! For me though unfortunately I think it’s the higher level of lust along with those type of men involving bigger highs (and lower lows) which makes the sex better when they “chose you” after making you feel shit for ages. Also they can be more direct which can be a turn on.

I think the fantasy that you're taming them helps with the foreplay so they dont have to try as hard

I’ve had exes who were a disaster in every other way but would happily spend ages making sure I was enjoying myself, actually listening to what I liked, and making sure I finished—sometimes more than once.

"Sometimes more than once" is a pretty low bar for great sex 😁

I don't agree with the original premise, for all the suggested explanations above. It's very much not been my experience.

Some 'player' type men are good in bed because they have a lot of experience with a lot of women!

Perhaps shyer men are less confident and less experienced?

I think it’s because they (or we) move on before the excitement of a new lover dulls.

Well if they are shaggers and not having long term relationships maybe they gained skills?

This has not been my experience.

My ex husband was as toxic as they come and took great pride in his prowess in the bedroom. He really was the best sex I have ever had.

It was were he got his validation from, he knew he was great in bed so that was his "thing".

Pathetic really because when faced with a woman who challenged him he couldnt cope and battered me and tried to strangle me on several occassions.

My theory is all the will he want me / pick me stuff creates a lot of intense emotions and that just kind of goes with mad sex.

Also they are usually players so had many years to hone their craft.

I have had the opposite experience, but I’ve not slept with that many men, I just married the first one I could get my hands on who was good at sex and good person. My toxic ex was just into… weird shit. Try giving a foot job when you have dyspraxia and then getting yelled at about being bad at it. 🙄

God yeah I don't know but you're right.

Mine too. The sex-obsessed ones tend to watch a lot of porn, which is an excellent training manual on how to be crap in bed.

I've had sex with over a hundred men and can confirm this is rubbish.

Being interested in sex and a woman's pleasure is not correlated to being toxic at all.

Good point.