Glastonbury worst I've seen!

They’ve doubled their Spotify and Insta followers and all merch sold out. So hold the gloating Gloriia. This wasn’t about money or fame though….they’ve been talking out about Palestine for years (and Ukraine, and misogyny and racism). They know the risks of calling out aggressors…but they have far more courage than you or I.

Big Bob's US visa revoked. Ah well, inciting hate and violence maybe not such a laugh after all.

'But here we all are again wasting time on this sideshow when still today children were killed in Gaza. Children. Killed. Every day. That’s the story, that’s the issue, that’s what needs to stop.'

Yes we know that but until hamas stop shooting them for accessing aid and using them as shields it's a bit of a status quo.

Tha gazans need to oust hamas.

Well there are Zionists working in the music business- they wrote to Glastonbury asking for Kneecap to be pulled. That’s fact.

And as we know, some Zionists are Jewish and some are not, just as some Jews are Zionists and some are not.

So a) the complaint about the letter was reasonable as the letter was really sent and did attempt censorship and b) that complaint is also not antisemitic.

From the river to the sea we have all done to death here and in real life over the last two years so if you want to believe that to be antisemitic that is up to you. Personally, I don’t.

But here we all are again wasting time on this sideshow when still today children were killed in Gaza. Children. Killed. Every day. That’s the story, that’s the issue, that’s what needs to stop.

Yes he's achieved publicity by inciting hate and violence, well done big Bob! You must be very proud of yourself.

Are you ok Lalgarh?

Talking about critical thinking skills then explaining that telling "Kill the Xxxx" doesn't actually mean kill them except in a different way.

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He’s not my Pal 🤣
And OK, but I’m not sure anyone with any critical thinking skills would think he was? Anyway, looks like he achieved what he set out to.

At least at Butlins you can see the stage, and get a shower without having to queue.

You can tell yourself whatever you want to pretend that your pal wasn't explicity calling for the death of a whole group of people

Yes. A publicity stunt and surely they have to make an example of one of thse hapless popstars to stop them all jumping on the bandwagon to get their names in the papers.

I think it's fair to say that he saw all the media attention that Kneecap have been getting and fancied a bit for himself. A nice bit of marketing, low effort for lots of attention.

Which would be warranted - if the British Army were killing babies and children. FFS it doesn’t mean kill the soldiers! Much like Kill The Bill doesn’t mean literally. The death of climate change doesn’t mean anyone is killed. The death of the National Front doesn’t mean killing its members. The death of chivalry doesn’t mean killing nice men.

Of course it's a group of people. It's a group of people that most Israeli civilians belong to at one point or another.

The IDF is not a group of people - it’s not like saying Death to Muslims or Death to all white men.

No need to search that far for a comparison. It's exactly the same as saying Death to the British Army. Your examples, not so much.

'The IDF is not a group of people'

It is actually. Its hardly a group of anything else is it?

Why don't these <checks notes> 'ativists' say death to hamas, is it because they are scared that they'll be targeted by murderous extremists perchance?

Ok. I can see we are so miles apart with our thinking that we won’t be able to see each others point of view. But it’s good to hear things from another perspective all the same

I loved Jo Wiley’s outfit, but I fear very very few people could carry that look off (myself included) without looking like Daffyd Thomas character Matt Lucas plays in Little Britain.

I didn't say it was OK. I'm comparing it to what big Bob said, his chants were much worse he was actually whipping people up screaming hate. Ah he's so gentle though you say .

Wow! You ok with what Lucy said then? The IDF is not a group of people - it’s not like saying Death to Muslims or Death to all white men. They’re an ORGANISATION. It’s the difference between Death to Facebook and Death to Mark Zuckerberg. Two very different meanings.
He won’t shut up because of being dropped by his agent in the US 🤣- that’s not how activism works

No.'Set fire to the hotels for all i care' is nowhere near as bad as shouting 'death!' to a group of people. Still I'm not in the cps so he'll probs get away with it no rhyme ro reason to it.

He's been dropped by his US agency anyway so maybe like the Irish trio he's learnt his lesson and will stfu in future.

"Antisemitic sentiments" - you're misquoting. Taken together with leading a chant of "From the river to the sea" and talking on stage about working for Zionists in the music industry I've no problem with the description.

Oh Gloriia,
Here we go again. Lucy said “set fire to all the hotels full of the bastards for all I care” can you see how that is explicitly racist and indeed a call to incite violence? Death to the IDF whilst not something I would chant is neither racist not calling for PEOPLE to be killed.

They were not antisemitic statements though were they. ‘Death to the IDF’ is not antisemitic. What a ridiculous statement.

The mum at the school gates who the other mums steer their DH's away from... 😁