Glastonbury worst I've seen!

Time he retired….

It's crap

Is it my old TV or does Neil Young sound absolutely dire?

You lucky, LUCKY sod! ❤

Do you see my point re the hysteria, tho?

The press convinced half the country that there actually was going to be anarchy in the UK 😂

Kneecap are an absolute gift for the shit rags.

I hope they do a cover of God Save the Queen King next!

His set is on right now on bb2, just started 5 mins ago

What on earth is going on with the sound?

Neil Young though - just don’t get it at all.

Off to find Pulp on iPlayer ;)

You must have been so proud and so disappointed all at once

I’ve seen some great female bands/acts which has been great and feels an improvement on past years’ live ups. Raye as today’s example.

Wish I’d seen Pulp though!

Raye was joyful to watch. She performed and looked like a star. Killer band.

@JustSawJohnny I lived a blessed life I did - saw the Pistols in Penzance when I was 15 - during their SPOTS tour when they was banned every where.

No wonder my life seems so fucking boring now,

@Profpudding they are managing particularly poor sound mix on him - BBC really struggle in my opinion on guitar bands sound

I mean… Elon did it…

I agree. I did enjoy pulp though but only caught last couple songs.

I so resonate with all of this (except that I'm not 63). I've heard a lot of hype about Raye over the last year all so but never knowingly heard her sing until now. There is no doubting that she has a lovely voice and can sing but for me her songs are utterly bland and forgettable.

I think a lot of the people commenting on Kneecap aren't familiar with Irish culture and don't realise perhaps how different Ireland is the Britain due to collonialism. Kneecap regard their home as occupied land, they see their language being restricted, their culture being restricted. They fought and won a court case against the British government on the grounds that they were discriminated against because of their nationality and their politics just this year. You just have to look at all of the bollocks over signs in Belfast when it comes to the Irish language in NI to see why Kneecap see their use of the Irish language as a form of resistance to British rule, why they want to resist British rule when their culture is being actively suppressed.

Obviously coming from what they see as occupied land, being from a nationality who were starved by their occupiers, whose culture was made illegal they are going to feel some kind of kinship with other people also under occupation.

It's really not a simple situation of Kneecap are cunts, the end.

@TranceNation Ive been going since the 90s and it's better than ever - the pop is just the smallest drop of it all! In fact one amazing thing about the past 10 / 20 years has been the massive expansion of dance music there. Which in the 90s was barely starting out in mainstream festivals. I saw orbital play in 1994 and nothing like that had ever happened at glasto.

I'm half Irish, with a dot of Native American from a rather unpleasant encounter in the 19th Century when some of my ancestors were fleeing Ireland for Canada. Plus half English-ish, with a bit of Welsh and Austrian. So.. my ancestors have been colonised by the British, the Americans, the Romans, the Vikings, the Saxons, the Normans and the Nazis. Who am I allowed to hate?

if you go to glastonbury you will see it is a huge celebration of all sorts of arts culture and green type thinking - it gives over whole fields to green politics - when I went in the 90s it was my first exposure to that sort of thinking and shaped my adult approach to politics. Many of the people in the green fields are real out there radicals and are given life long support and space at glastonbury - this is real stuff not fake. Many people barely make it up to the green fields but it's always been there and it's for real.

re. arts and culture - the performing arts in particular the stuff like unfair ground/ shangri la - are also genuinely giving a stage and space to people in the counter culture.

what's shown on the bbc is a tiny fragment of glastonbury - i've been to many festivals and there is nowhere like it.

re kneecap - young musicians of the punkish/ angry/political variety are supposed to annoy people it's literally why they exist. anyone getting wound up about it is just giving the young punks oxygen just as they want!

i don't really get this, there's SO many bands and artists on, do people not look beyond the headliners?

I also find it so funny that people presume Glastonbury has changed soooooo much rather than reflecting that maybe they've just got old 😂

i say this as an old person myself.

In the same way The Pistols did - the right wing press are just foaming at the mouth about everything they say and do now. The Daily Fail have all but claimed Mo is a member of Hezbollah!

I can't see the band, considering the amount of cash that is likely to roll in after the attention re the court case, changing tack now. Any press is good press, right? THAT is my point.

I do think Mo and the others are likely to get dragged back to court repeatedly now because part of notoriety is being watched. There will be many more 'complaints' and the court case shows that complaints are being taken seriously.

Also, I gave my opinion on their politics at no point so you can shove your assumptions.

Im enjoying Raye, but my main takeaway is how bloody hard it must be to sing along to a lot of artists these days.

@Profpudding Well that's to be expected. Just tuned in my telly machine and there's some rap-bird going on....where can I find that old Canadian hippie codger then?

I'll always be sad that I missed Dolly, but my festival going days are over now. There just don't seem to be many good headliners any more and so it's been the same ones for the last 20-60 years.

I tried to watch highlights on iplayer and you couldn’t forward it. Only wanted to watch 1975