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Sad that the pandemic didn't make us better

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Pennyforyourthoughtsplease · 28/06/2025 11:52

Those first few weeks were terrifying, but we made it through. Many worse off. Isn't it sad that coming through a global pandemic, we didn't become kinder, more appreciative and less materialistic; realising what really matters. If anything, I've noticed a significant shift these last few years where people have become more selfish and entitled. What happened?!

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WhatNoRaisins · 29/06/2025 08:57

Even before COVID I've always noticed that regular and meaningful contact with others as part of a community makes me a better person when interacting with others. Feeling isolated from community makes me more selfish.

EasternStandard · 29/06/2025 08:52

People did comply in the most part. Due to successful behaviour change messaging.

It was shite though to be under it so obviously most will bounce out of it and not want to continue being suppressed for a virus (that didn’t impact everyone that badly).

BogRollBOGOF · 29/06/2025 08:40

How on earth could two years of social restrictions enhance being community minded and thinking of others???

EveSix · 29/06/2025 08:29

I do think people were emboldened to break rules and to take advantage of favourable circumstances brought about by the pandemic; I have many acquaintances who were able to apply for and massively benefit from business loans and funding for the most oblique and tangential reasons, yet the absolutely believe they deserved it as it was there for the taking. Others very much took the mickey with furlough, and, again, believe this was justified and 'fair game'.
The culture around work really split society, creating cohorts of people who now think it's reasonable to be on the take (and justify their thinking because of the government's poor behaviour and management, forgetting that they really weren't shafting the government -who wouldn't give two hoots- but society), and others who feel they were severely let down and taken advantage of.

CaptainFuture · 29/06/2025 08:18

TorturedParentsDepartment · 28/06/2025 15:44

After a fuckwit on here told me that my child, who was in an absolute mental health mess, had a "good chance to learn resilience" from this - my tolerance for being "good" and doing the "right thing" broke. It's not come back because I've seen how quickly people will throw my kids' futures under the bus and I don't like it one bit.

Oh yeah and the hate directed against those who struggled massively wearing masks - people would have tied those up to burn them at the stake quite willingly, removed provision for healthcare from them, banned them from ever leaving their houses and quite probably taken their houses away as well.

So yeah - the pandemic showed me exactly how fucking evil the performative good guys really were and how rotten at the core the pan banging, rainbows and "thank you NHS" shite was.

This definitely resonates, while didn't experience to @TorturedParentsDepartment level, it was evident even on here, that children and how they were impacted meant nothing to so many, who were self important with their 'I AM VULNERABLE!! ONLY I MATTER!! CHILDREN SHOULD.NOT BE ALLOWED OUT IN PUBLIC AT ALL FOUL DISEASE CARRIERS!!!' and in the next breath would be expecting 'their village' to shop for them, collect prescriptions etc...
Always remember the poster on here who gave the advice a mum should isolate their 8 yo for the required period by locking them in their room, and leaving food outside the door on disposable plates...

NeedToChangeName · 29/06/2025 08:17

Boris' locksown parties brought home to me that politicians hold the public in contempt. Trust was broken

anxietytty · 29/06/2025 08:12

Humans gonna human

Orangeandpurpletulips · 29/06/2025 08:04

Lifesd · 29/06/2025 07:43

💯 agree - i do wander if the money we spent on all of that shit, the ad campaigns the bodged PPE- if that had gone into fixing some of the mainly problems our society has if we would be in a better place.

Or funded some decent sick pay even.

Lifesd · 29/06/2025 07:43

Helpmeplease2025 · 29/06/2025 06:51

Lockdown was a joke. It was nothing for most people, yet the effects of lockdown were atrocious on mental health, money, business. And the scientists knew, they lied.

Trust is gone. I’ll definitely do what I want now.

💯 agree - i do wander if the money we spent on all of that shit, the ad campaigns the bodged PPE- if that had gone into fixing some of the mainly problems our society has if we would be in a better place.

FrenchandSaunders · 29/06/2025 07:41

Sorry just seen, Thailand

FrenchandSaunders · 29/06/2025 07:40

deadpantrashcan · 28/06/2025 12:03

I was living in another country when this happened. There was a curfew imposed and everyone followed it as fines were imposed, fairly, to anyone who didn’t. The government also appeared to follow their own laws. Even had an alcohol ban to give people less reason to congregate, and to curb binge drinking through boredom. It was so so embarrassing to hear how the U.K. handled it, and how people acted.

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Christ the wine in the sunshine in the garden was one of the few joys at the time. What country was this?😳

Lifesd · 29/06/2025 07:36

Pennyforyourthoughtsplease · 28/06/2025 13:02

Should that be seen as noble or just being courteous?

It was a huge relief when the performative mask wearing stopped - thank god it didn’t “catch on”.

Colds and viruses are part of life we can’t live entirely sanitised Iives - and to do so actually had a negative impact on most people’s immune systems.

Untery · 29/06/2025 07:30

People sacrificed so much during lockdowns that they are on a lifetime mission now not to let anything stand in their way of maximising their own enjoyment in life.

Lifesd · 29/06/2025 07:29

Things have got significantly worse in the Uk and I think the pandemic created a lot of additional problems and since then there has been what I can only describe as a stagnant decline on the streets. People have become less tolerant and more selfish - and angrier. I think people realise they were sold a lie by the Government during the pandemic.

We became more divided because there was a certain element who revelled in it - working from and ordering in their Amazon deliveries not really worrying about the people in supermarkets and other jobs which couldn’t be done from home. WFH has also contributed to a decline in city centres, shops and services going out of business because there is not the foot traffic.

It fucked the NHS even more, it has screwed over generations of kids who lost out academically and socially and we paid for millions to sit idle on furlough which gave a lot of people the taste for benefits which has resulted in part of the problems we have with benefits now.

WhatNoRaisins · 29/06/2025 07:23

Isn't the reason that we admire and celebrate someone who becomes a better person through adversity rather than becoming bitter and changing for the worse because it's so unusual?

GoodbyeRosie · 29/06/2025 07:12

It did the opposite didn't it? You can even see it in this thread.

It brought out of the worse in people, the pandemic followed the ridiculous Brexit, and showed we are a nation of entitled, selfish people.

The lockdown was necessary to protect the heathcare system, yet people moaned about wearing masks, not being able to go to the pub, and for some reason thought they were clever for not believing scientists.

Our own Government ignored their own rules, thinking they were exempt and used the situation to line theirs and their mates pockets .

What should have made us stronger and more caring did completely the opposite.

Fairyliz · 29/06/2025 07:06

This is intrinsically who humans are, we have survived by being selfish.
Personally I feel that the world would be a better place without us. What we need is a deadly virus sweeping the planet and killing us all off.

StrictlyAFemaleFemale · 29/06/2025 07:05

I don't think stopping to reflect on your current life and whether or not it works for you is a bad thing. And a lot of people (particularly on MN) found that their lives weren't working for them. A lot of people discovered their relationships were unequal and that's not ok either. But that doesn't excuse bad customer service and rudeness and absolute selfishness.

TheKeatingFive · 29/06/2025 06:59

What did you think was going to change?

SatsumaDog · 29/06/2025 06:57

it made me see people for what they are. Entirely selfish, only interested in their own wants/needs, wasteful and idle creatures. My opinion hasn’t changed.

PersephoneParlormaid · 29/06/2025 06:53

I saw entitled people during covid, those who thought the rules didn’t apply to them.

Helpmeplease2025 · 29/06/2025 06:51

Lockdown was a joke. It was nothing for most people, yet the effects of lockdown were atrocious on mental health, money, business. And the scientists knew, they lied.

Trust is gone. I’ll definitely do what I want now.

scalt · 29/06/2025 06:43

BlueJuniper94 · 28/06/2025 15:31

Hmm... maybe but the lockdowns were a result of them responding to public demand surely? They didn't sincerely believe they were needed so of course they didn't think twice about flauting them. I think it's a double standard to the public to them complain

I’m divided on “did the public demand lockdowns?”. Certainly, the government was reluctant to lock down, especially Boris. It looks as if the government decided that once lockdown seemed inevitable, they’d really go for it, even though they knew it was too late.

I do think the public demanded lockdowns going on and on and on, once they’d started. They’d got used to the idea, and the lovely cuddly trustable Boris 😇had sold them the idea of “people will die”, “furlough for as long as necessary”, “we will do whatever it takes to keep you safe”, “stay at home, don’t kill granny”, “the police will come after those who break lockdown” (even the police didn’t know this until he said it), “no need to worry about an exit plan, this is the new normal”, it was then politically impossible to ease lockdown. We could have let the virus rip in summer 2020 and lessened the autumn impact, but the government medicine of fear had worked too well, and the public were baying for more and more lockdown. It might have been a form of Stockholm syndrome.

I’m not saying this is the right way, but let’s say Thatcher had been in charge instead. She would probably have openly said that it would be best to let the virus rip, and a good thing for the elderly to die off: in her time, it was more acceptable for politicians to tell the blunt economic truth. Then if she’d had to lock down under duress, she would have laid it on thick about the economic damage lockdowns would cause, while barely mentioning the virus at all. Lockdown would have been much shorter. She would probably have gone the other way with manipulating death figures: pretending that fewer people were dying, rather than more. And maybe she would have been pilloried in the same way Boris was for partygate, but we would thane had fewer deaths, and much less damage in out her ways.

BlueJuniper94 · 29/06/2025 04:40

TooBigForMyBoots · 28/06/2025 21:49

No.

The Conservative Party was our government. It was their job to manage the pandemic in accordance with their information and their emergency planning. They made the rules. They gave the police authority to enforce the rules.

But instead of leading us through this, they fleeced us, lined the pockets of their friends and families and repeatedly broke the laws they made. Ultimately, they broke the social contract.😟

This lockdowns were the result of public demand nonsense is yet another attempt to shift the blame and gaslight the country. Again!🤨

The Tory government ballsed up the UKs Covid response because they were lazy, ineffectual liars and shysters. Not because of anything the public demanded🙄 or needed.

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I'm no fan whatsoever of the government but I was also there at the time and felt the response was far too slow, too little, too late. We have different memories of what went on. I honestly can't make myself care about those parties. Perhaps because I was already innured by the contempt in which I know we're held. But its their least crime from where I'm standing.

RebelliousHoping · 28/06/2025 22:49

Found the strength to get up during Covid 19 un’furloughed’ for a 16k job 2020 so kept going. Never got Covid 19 myself but experienced worse, medically, in the intervening years.

Remain angry for the people lost.

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