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To think there are jobs in the world which no human being should be doing?

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ConstantIllness · 28/06/2025 09:32

Abattoir workers
Online child sex abuse investigators
Are 2 in particular that spring to mind. They require people to become numb to pain and suffering.
In anticipation of snarky replies: no, I don't know how else they should be done and yes, I know there's always been pain and suffering. It's at an industrial scale now though.
Maybe it takes a certain kind of human to do it, which is worrying in itself.

OP posts:
Pingiop · 28/06/2025 12:34

Ponoka7 · 28/06/2025 10:41

By that train of thought, most jobs in the hospital, MH, Police, Military shouldn't be done either, probably the prisons, as well. I've worked in child services, you are part of the prevention. It's a different mindset and thought process than you've got. I thought that this thread was going to be about children breaking rocks, manual process across Africa, teams of rubbish dump workers across the world. Or even children walking miles for water. MN is embarrassing at times.

I disagree. I worked previously in critical care, you would see patients in horrific conditions from accidents. We had an increasing number of patients come in from lighting themselves on fire whilst driving on the motorway. Stuff you can’t even imagine. It’s not about being a certain type of person for the job it’s more you just adapt to it.

Ohwhatfuckeryitistoride · 28/06/2025 12:21

I wish there was no need for those dedicated souls who have to investigate csa and sa cases. But thank god for them.
Any “job” that demands that people work in unsafe, unsanitary roles for a pittance to make life easier and more comfortable for those who are better off.

arcticpandas · 28/06/2025 12:15

Redpeach · 28/06/2025 10:37

Anus bleacher

I want the 🤣 back!!!

5128gap · 28/06/2025 12:10

Ponoka7 · 28/06/2025 10:41

By that train of thought, most jobs in the hospital, MH, Police, Military shouldn't be done either, probably the prisons, as well. I've worked in child services, you are part of the prevention. It's a different mindset and thought process than you've got. I thought that this thread was going to be about children breaking rocks, manual process across Africa, teams of rubbish dump workers across the world. Or even children walking miles for water. MN is embarrassing at times.

Agree. It's actually incredibly offensive to suggest those who work in roles protecting others from harm are 'numb' to pain and suffering. In fact these roles have a high rate of emotional burn out. People who do them are typically doing them because they care enough to put the benefit of their work ahead of the toll it takes on them as people. And thank goodness there are people like that amongst us.

rwalker · 28/06/2025 12:09

ItDoesntHaveToBeASnowman · 28/06/2025 09:40

I think it’s a certain type of arsehole that could be a bailiff.

And what about the people who the bailiff are acting and probably out of pocket for thousands do you not feel sorry for them

BlueJuniper94 · 28/06/2025 12:08

How many of those here who claim to disdain these facets of life post industrial revolution would ever consider returning to a premodern standard of living

BlueJuniper94 · 28/06/2025 12:05

TenderChicken · 28/06/2025 10:17

I've done the abattoir one. Its been over 10 years, but when I think too much on the 1000s of animals I've killed, I feel like throwing up. You've got to keep it buried.

Focus on the tens of thousands of people you've fed

2024onwardsandup · 28/06/2025 12:04

Candlefright · 28/06/2025 11:55

A lot of men do it because they have a sexual kink that their wives won’t partake in such as Anal sex.
Not all sex workers are trafficked or forced. Some women work independently of a pimp and have regular customers.

No financially and psychologically healthy woman with no history of trauma engages in prostitution.

and no it’s not the same as cleaning toilets

you can’t buy consent

Candlefright · 28/06/2025 11:55

ScreamingBeans · 28/06/2025 10:56

Yes the majority of people do have sex for pleasure. The men who pay women for sex however are not doing it solely for pleasure, they are in the main, doing it as an expression of domination and control and are deeply abusive men.

I can guarantee you that a man who habitually abuses prostituted women, is not going to be a decent nice man who believes in equality of the sexes and has respect for women. And his ability to use women for his orgasm, reinforces and strengthens his retrograde ideas about women. It's a vicious cycle.

The idea that it is an equal exchange is a very successful piece of propaganda, but it's so far from reality as to be a total fantasy. Like Pretty Woman.

If women actually wanted to do this job, there would be no international trafficking business. No one is trafficking engineers, architects or software programmers.

A lot of men do it because they have a sexual kink that their wives won’t partake in such as Anal sex.
Not all sex workers are trafficked or forced. Some women work independently of a pimp and have regular customers.

GreyCarpet · 28/06/2025 11:55

neverbeenskiing

I also work in a safeguarding role and completely agree with you.

My parents, my exh, both my children and me will work/have worked in professional roles that have safeguarding at their core. We have all encountered the very worst aspects of humanity. We can't just pretend they don't exist just because it's not very nice.

GreyCarpet · 28/06/2025 11:50

Resilience is an important aspect.

I admire child sex abuse investigators precisely because it isn't a pleasant job but one that needs doing and they feel passionately about protecting children.

neverbeenskiing · 28/06/2025 11:50

They require people to become numb to pain and suffering.

I strongly disagree that people must be "numb to pain and suffering" to work in Child Protection. You need to be highly resilient, have strategies and support systems in place for managing stress and vicarious trauma. Being able to regulate your emotions at work does not mean you don't feel emotions. It means you can recognise them, park them temporarily to enable you to deal with the task at hand and then deal with them at the appropriate time.

I am not an "online child sexual abuse investigator" but I work with children in a safeguarding role. I have had young children describe their experiences of sexual abuse to me in very graphic detail. I have seen some appalling cases of neglect, children living in such squalid conditions that you wonder how they have survived. When these things happen I feel all the things you would expect a human being to feel. But I take a deep breath, remind myself it's not about me, and I go into 'professional mode' because that's what's needed in the moment. Then when I finish work I allow myself to feel whatever I need to feel, and I use the strategies I've developed over the last 15 years for coping with those emotions. Having wonderful colleagues and supportive managers helps.

IfYouPutASausageInItItsNotAViennetta · 28/06/2025 11:49

Pingiop · 28/06/2025 11:43

Some people would do that job for free.

Just bring your own gas mask for protection, if working at close quarters...

Candlefright · 28/06/2025 11:47

Catsandcannedbeans · 28/06/2025 11:41

Wetherspoons employee in the airport one’s. Covered some shifts there and came back a different woman. I will say tho it gave me a kick up the arse to do well at university to the point where I never left another essay to the last minute and actually started spending significant time in the library.

I remember when I worked in a very busy cafe . I used to go home exhausted especially when people wouldn’t pull their weight, and wouldn’t go up a gear when short staffed . And the thought of handling dirty cutlery that has been in people’s mouths . I will never work in a place like that ever again .

Pingiop · 28/06/2025 11:43

Redpeach · 28/06/2025 10:37

Anus bleacher

Some people would do that job for free.

Confrontayshunme · 28/06/2025 11:41

I have a friend who is a police investigator friend who is a detective for sex crimes involving children, domestic abuse homicide and something else horrific. He is genuinely warm and lovely, and I once asked him about this. He knows that his job protects extremely vulnerable people and like any other caring profession, he has to disregard the awfulness in favour of believing that he is helping people.

Catsandcannedbeans · 28/06/2025 11:41

Wetherspoons employee in the airport one’s. Covered some shifts there and came back a different woman. I will say tho it gave me a kick up the arse to do well at university to the point where I never left another essay to the last minute and actually started spending significant time in the library.

Pingiop · 28/06/2025 11:40

So you admit these jobs need doing but then make a snarky reply and question the person who does it? Weird.

HoppingPavlova · 28/06/2025 11:36

Online child sex abuse investigators
Are 2 in particular that spring to mind. They require people to become numb to pain and suffering

How bizarre. I think it’s the opposite. They are very aware of children’s pain and suffering, which is exactly why they do it. What they have is resilience, which you don’t seem to comprehend.

Dontlletmedownbruce · 28/06/2025 11:30

@IfYouPutASausageInItItsNotAViennetta
routinely gaslight, harass and accuse them of dishonesty, in order to capitalise on their trauma

that sounds like you have had a very negative experience with insurers and met some very unprofessional loss adjusters. I worked in this field for a while and that certainly wasn't the case in my experience. Most were practical and empathetic, (although not as empathetic as they should be in some cases).There were fairly strict industry standards, gaslighting and harassing definitely is not an acceptable norm, the people you describe should have been reported.

2024onwardsandup · 28/06/2025 11:26

ScreamingBeans · 28/06/2025 09:35

So called sex work. No one has the right to use another human being's body as a masturbatory aid.

This

Bridport · 28/06/2025 11:24

Meadowfinch · 28/06/2025 11:03

Some people easily or happily do things that most people find repellent....hunting and shooting for example. The thought of it makes me sick, but other perfectly reasonable seeming folk get kitted up in fancy clothes and go out to kill animals for pleasure.

Shooting isn't necessarily for pleasure. It is necessary to cull deer, and to humanely destroy those that have been hit by cars. Farming isn't Disneyland.

I started my working life on a farm so am under no illusion it's Disneyland and absolutely understand the need to limit deer numbers. However, I will never understand the need to hunt with dogs in order to shoot deer (as they do on Exmoor for example) or the need to dress up and blow horns in order to go out and do this for pleasure three times a week.

I feel the same about people who and romp around in tweed and kneesocks blowing millions of purpose bred fat birds from the sky in a valley and then not eating them.

Lincslady53 · 28/06/2025 11:24

In the last episode of Clarksons Farm, he has problems with the cess pit in the new pub. As he is talking to the builders by the pit, they wind up the block and tackle and a man is pulled up from the cess pit who has been working inside it. He did have a big smile on his face, but did make me think 'Who would do a job like that?'

scalt · 28/06/2025 11:18

I read a book in which a prisoner writes an apology note to the staff who find her, just before she kills herself.

And I say we need MPs to have done a job or two like this before they get anywhere near parliament, instead of the usual pattern of born into wealth > posh school > oxbridge > parliament.

Seagullandclouds · 28/06/2025 11:09

Genevieva · 28/06/2025 10:38

Are you vegetarian?

I am not, but I always buy British, outdoor bred meat and I avoid halal because I believe it is less humane and I am not Muslim. I don’t believe people have a right to eat meat, but it is a natural and normal thing to do. With that in mind I think there should absolutely be highly trained professional abattoirs.

Unfortunately small family run abattoirs that provide the lowest stress experience for livestock are closing because of increasing costs. This is forcing farmers to send their animals to factory abattoirs, which is less desirable.

Unfortunately small family run abattoirs that provide the lowest stress experience for livestock are closing because of increasing costs. This is forcing farmers to send their animals to factory abattoirs, which is less desirable.

Yes I completely agree with this. A family friend was a sheep farmer and stopped about 10 years ago because he wouldn’t send his animals to a factory abattoir. Prior to that it was a local abattoir staffed by people who had genuine compassion for the animals.

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