To think there are jobs in the world which no human being should be doing?

By the time a debt is referred to a debt collection agency, people will have been given many opportunities from the person/organisation owed money to talk and come to an arrangement.

Even when a debt is referred to a debt collection agency, there will be several efforts made by them to make contact and come to a payment arrangement. And the contact is really supportive. I know, I've supported someone through it.

Bailiffs are the absolute last resort and court directed when many, many attempts have been made.

It generally only gets that far when someone refuses to engage completely.

Every time I send a stool sample, I silently apologise to whoever has to look at it under a microscope.

People have different tolerance levels hence being able to do certain jobs.

I used to wretch at the smell of other people's urine but after life experience, I can handle way more.

Detaining and deporting people who are "illegal" with no rules to adhere to, no warrant, no morals and operating outside the law with financial incentives outside of a normal salary. Oh and treating them inhumanely like throwing them out of planes into the sea, splitting up families and separating mothers from babies and not giving them food or medical aid when captured.

They are the most cruel, horrific places on earth. I've worked in several.

What nuances?

What benefit does society gain from the existence of some women who are not coerced into it, being willing to allow abusive men to treat them as masturbatory aids?

Why does society need that "job"?

Exactly what I was going to say. I realize that there are people out there who don't pay their debts when they can actually afford to,but equally,there are lot of people who have got into rent or council tax arrears and are generally struggling. Sending the bully boys round to scare them really isn't helpful.

Have a read of Julie Bindels work on prostitution

Before the introduction of The Poll Tax Thatcher stopped the Law Commission from looking at the legislation around debt recovery.

Nearly 50 years on I suggest its something that needs to be done urgently

Evidence points to the contrary about there being a spectrum. Nothing is ever black and white and I stand by my observation. Also ‘happy hooker’ are your words and not words I used or ever would. Like I said there are nuances which it would be disingenuous to ignore. My statement is in the specific context of what the OP asked not a general statement on prostitution as a whole.

@SALaw not at all. I believe that people should repay their debts if they can. There is a lot of great work done by step change and CCCS which enable people to pay their debts over time. I think that any form of loan company be it credit card/ car finance or whatever should refer non payers to those organisations rather than employing the services of bailiffs & having worked in an industry that did resort to using bailiffs, I stand by the original point - it takes a special type of arsehole to become a bailiff. Thuggish bully boys.

@Lesina but how do you propose unpaid debts should be enforced? You’re happy for people to have debts and not pay?

I’d say the people not paying are the bigger arseholes

With empathy

@Lesina how should debt be dealt with?

100% agree

Not all women who engage in prostitution are groomed, coerced or trafficked into it, of course.

Just most of them.

Most of the women in prostitution have been raped or sexually abused as children. The average age for a woman to enter prostitution is 15. This idea that one end of the spectrum it's the happy hookers and then at the other it's the trafficked sex slaves and then there's a bunch in between, is just not correct. The vast majority of prostituted women have been groomed, coerced or trafficked into it.

That's most of the workers then.

@ItDoesntHaveToBeASnowman this is literally the area of law I work in…in Scotland. Sheriff officers can serve attachment orders and, guess what, seize goods in settlement of a debt recovery action. Process might be different but I’m assuming the objection to the role of bailiffs is about taking property to repay debt. If you don’t like that what is the alternative?!

Why are you bending over backwards to say that it's fine for women to be prostitutes? It's not Pretty Woman you know. It's mostly rough and degrading, with men thinking they can do anything to the woman because they've paid for it. It's not going to be respectful men who go looking for a prostitute, not caring if she's trafficked or being pimped out by some other violent waste of skin. Would you be OK doing it? Knowing that you run the risk every single time of being attacked in some way. Having 10 men in an evening, one after another and the physical and emotional toll that will take on you.

Off topic, but I’ve seen a picture of Baldrick captioned “Baldrick receives the news that he is to become a rent boy, believing it to be a promotion to a junior bailiff”.

I suppose a lot of it's because the engagement isn't equal. Men aren't very often harmed physically,.mentally or emotionally through using prostitutes. The prostitutes often are.

Even those who enter into it willingly often say they have difficulty forming personal relationships with men afterwards and it negatively affects their view of men in general.

Why can't you buy consent? Surely in many professions consent is sold, a boxer consents to being violently hit for money and that's ok, a member of the armed forces consents to killing or being killed for money and we call them heroes. So why can't a woman choose to sell her consent to her own body in your opinion?

They’re basically the same thing jsut with a different name (sheriff officers)

Whatever they do in Scotland I guess. No bailiffs here.