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Woman on holiday? AIBU?

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Gogoea · 27/06/2025 18:58

We’re currently on holiday in Spain and got to know another family. Their daughter is the same age as my son - 9. We also have a 6 year old daughter.

Their other family’s 9 year old - I’ll call her Sarah - is visibly overweight/fat with breast growth. She’s an only child.

When were on a trip to another town yesterday the other mum got tipsy and said at lunch - all 7 of us were on the same table - and the mum pointed to an elephant in a book my daughter was reading and said “Sarah’s as fat as that”. -

My daughter giggled and repeated it and I could see Sarah’s face and she was very upset.

A bit later on Sarah still looked upset and wasn’t really interacting at all and her mum sharpiy snd curtly (about my daughter - let’s call her Maisie) said to Sarah;

”look she’s TRYING to make friends with you”.

As we all walked back to the bus stop - my 9 year old son said to Sarah -

“Don’t worry, Maisie (his sister) has called me fat as well”

in other words, my 9 year old DS failed to acknowledge Sarah’s mother’s fault in all this?

AIBU to now have realised that Sarah’s mum is a rancid toxic bitch?

How can someone be like that to their own 9 year old child?

OP posts:
nomas · 27/06/2025 20:50

Figcherry · 27/06/2025 20:48

People are overweight due to an excess of fat - hence fat.
It’s an adjective.
It’s unkind to use the word directly to the person themself but as a descriptor on MN we all know what op means.

And what was the reason for taking about a 9yo’s breast tissue?

nomas · 27/06/2025 20:49

Motnight · 27/06/2025 19:38

Op started a thread about it! No one is covered in glory here apart from the son who tried to be kind. But let's not blame a little girl for continuing a toxic conversation that an adult started.

Who blamed the girl? Not me. Don’t make shit up.

Figcherry · 27/06/2025 20:48

Spirallingdownwards · 27/06/2025 19:49

But you still persist in calling her fat several times on here rather than overweight.

People are overweight due to an excess of fat - hence fat.
It’s an adjective.
It’s unkind to use the word directly to the person themself but as a descriptor on MN we all know what op means.

AngelicKaty · 27/06/2025 20:36

@Gogoea Indeed. Particularly when she's responsible for what her DD eats. Poor "Sarah" - imagine having that for a mother. She'll be another damaged adult who will have to go NC with her "D"M to protect her self-esteem and sanity. 😞

Bobbybobbins · 27/06/2025 20:31

saraclara · 27/06/2025 20:14

I can't believe that NONE of the other three parents said anything, either to your DD or Sarah's mother. So far the two fathers have escaped criticism unscathed.

This! Clearly a lower bar for them…

Namechangerage · 27/06/2025 20:30

the mum pointed to an elephant in a book my daughter was reading and said “Sarah’s as fat as that”. -
My daughter giggled and repeated it and I could see Sarah’s face and she was very upset.

Umm - where’s the bit where you said “No Maisie we don’t say things like that. Say sorry to Sarah please”

Whether or not the mum is a dick, you should have stepped in there!!

meganorks · 27/06/2025 20:23

Gogoea · 27/06/2025 20:10

Thank you - just to clarify though I’m not loaning about my son - he didn’t do anything wrong think he didn’t hear her

Glad that's the case re: your son. But the away you have phrased it really does sound like that.

Cornishclio · 27/06/2025 20:20

The woman is a toxic bitch and you should have corrected your daughter as well. Fat shaming a child is awful. That poor girl.

Mulledjuice · 27/06/2025 20:18

Gogoea · 27/06/2025 19:02

Fair enough - shes 6 but I’m not proud of the way she behaved but I think she just wanted to agree with the mum to ‘please’ the adult

Did you correct her?

Gogoea · 27/06/2025 20:17

DelphiniumDoreen · 27/06/2025 20:16

What a bitch.

You should have called her out there and then. Why didn’t you?

Not wanting to cause a scene

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DelphiniumDoreen · 27/06/2025 20:16

What a bitch.

You should have called her out there and then. Why didn’t you?

saraclara · 27/06/2025 20:14

I can't believe that NONE of the other three parents said anything, either to your DD or Sarah's mother. So far the two fathers have escaped criticism unscathed.

TryingToBeHelpful267 · 27/06/2025 20:12

I can’t believe you didn’t say anything to the mother but I am absolutely gobsmacked you didn’t correct your daughter.

Your son sounds lovely and empathetic. You’re lucky to have him. His response is the only decent one in the whole post.

I really think you need to have a word with yourself.

Gogoea · 27/06/2025 20:10

meganorks · 27/06/2025 20:07

Yeah the mother is an absolute cowbag. What an awful thing to say about her daughter, especially in front of other people. And they are mostly responsible for their daughters weight surely at that age!
I'm sure you would have told your daughter off had she been the one to say it. But the fact she is just repeating an adult, and you didn't correct the adult, it is murky waters. Not sure I believe the people who would have done something in the moment. Maybe I would have told my daughter off, maybe I wouldn't.
Flip side of that though; I'm not sure why you are moaning about what your son said. He seems to be the only one trying to make the girl feel better. And if you didn't correct the adult, why would he?!

I'd like to think I'd later not associate with the lady and tell her exactly why. But I imagine, in reality, I'd try and lie low and grin and bear it if unavoidable. But that's because I'm an absolutely non-confrontational chicken shit.

As a side note, this is the reason I always stay in my own place on holiday - fear of befriending someone who turns out to be an absolute arsehole!

Thank you - just to clarify though I’m not loaning about my son - he didn’t do anything wrong think he didn’t hear her

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meganorks · 27/06/2025 20:07

Yeah the mother is an absolute cowbag. What an awful thing to say about her daughter, especially in front of other people. And they are mostly responsible for their daughters weight surely at that age!
I'm sure you would have told your daughter off had she been the one to say it. But the fact she is just repeating an adult, and you didn't correct the adult, it is murky waters. Not sure I believe the people who would have done something in the moment. Maybe I would have told my daughter off, maybe I wouldn't.
Flip side of that though; I'm not sure why you are moaning about what your son said. He seems to be the only one trying to make the girl feel better. And if you didn't correct the adult, why would he?!

I'd like to think I'd later not associate with the lady and tell her exactly why. But I imagine, in reality, I'd try and lie low and grin and bear it if unavoidable. But that's because I'm an absolutely non-confrontational chicken shit.

As a side note, this is the reason I always stay in my own place on holiday - fear of befriending someone who turns out to be an absolute arsehole!

sandrapinchedmysandwich · 27/06/2025 20:01

murasaki · 27/06/2025 19:06

Fair play for acknowledging that.

And your son sounds lovely. He was trying to make her feel better.

The woman is clearly awful and I feel very sorry for her daughter.

This. Your dd is 6. Still a little girl. All those shaming her and ignoring the mums behaviour should be ashamed. You hsve obviously brought your ds up right as he was kind and perceptive. Your dd will probably develop these skills too. Sarah's mum not so much and I feel desperately sorry for that poor 9 year old who will in all likelihood grow up with body issues because of her awful mother

Gogoea · 27/06/2025 19:59

HeisenbergMum · 27/06/2025 19:57

I don't know why you are getting such a hard time op. Yanbu that the other mum is a toxic bitch. It's hard to speak up in the moment. I suppose you and your dh might have been just shocked and also, i think most of us are so used to try to be pleasant to others that we probably don't call out others as much as we should. I know it's something I struggle with. I usually wonder after the fact why I didn't say anything.

Yes you should have said something to your daughter but again maybe you were too shocked or the moment passed too quickly. I'd definitely talk to both your kids about it though and tell them that Sarah's mum was put of order and very hurtful and your dd shouldn't have laughed or repeated it.

Your son sounds very sweet.

Thank you this is so true

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HeisenbergMum · 27/06/2025 19:57

I don't know why you are getting such a hard time op. Yanbu that the other mum is a toxic bitch. It's hard to speak up in the moment. I suppose you and your dh might have been just shocked and also, i think most of us are so used to try to be pleasant to others that we probably don't call out others as much as we should. I know it's something I struggle with. I usually wonder after the fact why I didn't say anything.

Yes you should have said something to your daughter but again maybe you were too shocked or the moment passed too quickly. I'd definitely talk to both your kids about it though and tell them that Sarah's mum was put of order and very hurtful and your dd shouldn't have laughed or repeated it.

Your son sounds very sweet.

Gogoea · 27/06/2025 19:56

TowerRavenSeven · 27/06/2025 19:54

What’s her being an only child got to do with it?

Context for number of kids who were there

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AmyDudley · 27/06/2025 19:55

No idea what your remark about your DS is supposed to mean - He acted decently and showed empathy, what a kind lad.
Your DD was obviously just copying the adult, but if she has also called your DS fat then you need to have words, she is old enough to know that calling people names is hurtful.

But why on earth didn't you say something? as soon as your the elephant remark was made you could have said 'that's a really nasty thing to say, why did you say it ?', if people aren't called out when they are mean,they will carry on doing it.

Poor little Sarah probably has a lifetime of abuse to look forward to from her mother. Not that you can do anything about that obviously, and you are right in your assessment that the woman is a bitch.

TowerRavenSeven · 27/06/2025 19:54

What’s her being an only child got to do with it?

Zanatdy · 27/06/2025 19:52

As the parent you should have stepped in and said we don’t say things like this.

Gogoea · 27/06/2025 19:51

Spirallingdownwards · 27/06/2025 19:49

But you still persist in calling her fat several times on here rather than overweight.

Ok I was debating whether to do that I admit - I just wanted to provide context - she’s noticeably overweight

OP posts:
Spirallingdownwards · 27/06/2025 19:49

Gogoea · 27/06/2025 19:25

Believe me im upset about Sarah

But you still persist in calling her fat several times on here rather than overweight.

Jerrypicker · 27/06/2025 19:48

arcticpandas · 27/06/2025 19:44

Because she said her daughter was fat like an elephant.

The 6 y old just repeated and here OP had her chance to protect Sarah and tell her 6 year old "Remember we don't comment on other people's bodies, it's very rude."

Oh my bad! Thanx. I read it in a hurry and thought it was OP who pointed to the elephant and her 6 year-old called Maisie fat….oops!

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