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To be fed up of fighting my hair?

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Vegwoes · 27/06/2025 17:04

So I have very wavy hair that seems to be porous by nature and fine. I like the colour (natural) and length (bra strap) and it is in good condition.
But!
It is so so sooo much hard work.

We live in a soft/moderately soft water area, yet when we travel further north to visit family and friends my hair instantly changes almost overnight. It becomes softer, shinier and forms lovely waves. My washing methods and products do not change, so it is clearly not those causing the issue.

1 week back at home and it is like a brillo pad in texture.

We have tried a shower filter, I have tried washing with bottled water, distilled water, to recreate whatever was going on further north, but nothing works. We have an expensive air con unit, a de-humidifier, the whole bloody thing. The house is well ventilated and I can't locate any immediate stressors.

No curly or wavy 'method' makes a difference, I am l loathe to spend any more money on endless new fangled wonder products that never actually do anything. Every time I research this online people insist on you buying more products or gadgets, that you are 'doing it wrong' but I am just weary as f at this point.
I have been trying to make the best of my natural hair for many years.
I suppose I am writing this because I have realised there is a kind of subtle pressure to embrace our natural hair. You have no idea what I have spent in this quest! I am coming to the conclusion that it can be more stressful than good! So I am wondering if anyone else ever just quit fighting it and went back to straightening for an easy life? Grin

I am on that verge, lol.

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Fantailsflitting · 01/07/2025 08:23

I have straight hair with a tendency to frizz - not that it ever forms curls or waves but just looks fuzzy. I usually just wash it the night before and it calms down by morning rather than me blowdrying it straight. I went to Bali on holiday though and my hair was just a mass of frizz. There are countless forums on how to get the frizz out of your hair in Bali - how was I going to find that women who had the special guaranteed stuff designed to straighten it out in some little shop? Then I looked round the resort - almost every other European woman had given up the fight and jammed it in a ponytail to hide the worst of the frizz. The French women were no more chic either. (Asian guests just seemed to have great hair - no frizzing for them.)

GymBergerac · 01/07/2025 05:57

I know this doesn't help but.... After years of thick, wavy hair that I couldn't do anything with, I just gave up and chopped it all off 🤣 My reasoning was that anything was worth a go! I'd never had short hair before and I wasn't getting any pleasure out of it at all - whatever I did, it looked a mess, and I just tired it up in a pony tail every day. I just thought "sod it, it's only hair, I can always grow it again if I don't like it"
It's less than an inch all over these days and I've saved a fortune... 😂 🤣

justasking111 · 01/07/2025 05:43

When various sons girlfriends came to stay with us, they raved about the water effect on their hair and the quality of their sleep. Coastal Wales.

piscofrisco · 01/07/2025 05:34

I have this problem. I live in an area where the water is basically limescale before it comes out of the tap. When I go ‘home’ to Derbyshire the difference to my hair is immense.
I’ve found doing a hair mask every few days helps mine, and also sleeping in those heat less curler thingies when I can be bothered. Also Brazilian blow dry helped alot -but spendy.
basically though nothing has consistently worked ever so I’m now resigned to either tying up or straightening if I want to wear it down.

MuckFusk · 01/07/2025 05:13

The answer may be there is not enough humidity. With the air conditioning on you shouldn't need a dehumidifier as air conditioners are already dehumidifiers. If the air is too dry moisture will be sucked out of your skin and hair to compensate, leaving your hair dry and coarse. Try keeping the dehumidifier off and see if that changes it.
I have thick wavy hair as well and my strategy has been to keep it short. I can't be arsed to fuss with it. One thing I have found helpful is adding a bit of grapeseed oil to my regular conditioner.

chunkybear · 01/07/2025 04:57

Sorry not read the whole thread, but I've had issues with frizz, hair was straight but after kids it goes more curly when washed and frizzy. I decided to go for keratin treatment at my salon and it's brilliant, no more frizz! Saying that it doesn't go curly now after washing so may not be what you're looking for?!

LittleMissTeacup · 01/07/2025 04:22

Just relating to this so much! I’m from the north, always had lovely waves there, moved down south and always frizzy. No products I’ve found that resolve this, so it must be the hard/ soft water difference.
it also affects my skin as a side note.

Lighteningstrikes · 01/07/2025 03:26

Keratin treatment is simply a miracle.

ColinCaterpillarsNo1Fan · 01/07/2025 03:06

Vegwoes · 27/06/2025 20:06

You know, I just googled this and it says the water in the areas that made my hair ok is the same as here at home.
Wonder if it's the plumbing!!??

Here is a pic of it when I was 'up north', still a bit fluffy but left to dry naturally.
I am also adding a pic of it dried naturally a few weeks later when i got home! The comparison is INSANE.

Deep condition it regularly, partially blow dry or use straightners on the roots. Then comb through with cantu curl creme or mousse & then style it in a top knot or claw clip for a few hours. My hair is similar to yours & I get lovely, soft waves with this method.

LoLotheYoYo · 01/07/2025 02:22

Google nanoplasty @Vegwoes It's been life-changing for me.

I too have thick wavy/curly hair with a mind of its own. I've spent so much money on lotions/potions/treatments, and then there's the time to wash, dry, style (I use that term very loosely 😆) to then wake up the next morning and I look like I've been dragged backwards through a blackberry patch. I may as well have just biffed the money in a pile and burnt it. (As a horse owner I'm well acquainted already with that fiscal practice, waah!)

I can now wash and wear and not worry about a frizzy mess. This morning was freezing so I did a very rough dry with the hair dryer then spent five minutes with the straighteners and I'm fit to go out in public

Alucard55 · 29/06/2025 17:38

CastleofMey · 29/06/2025 15:48

Thanks @Alucard55 , that sounds like a miracle. Could you post a link to the salon you use please?

It's a small salon outside Edinburgh there's no website.

I highly recommend the treatment.

Alucard55 · 29/06/2025 17:32

thetorturedpoetsdepartmentssecretary · 29/06/2025 17:18

Does this straighten it or leave it curly/wavy?

It doesn't straighten your hair it leaves a keratin coating on it. Depending on how you wear your hair you still need to style it. I have naturally wavy,frizzy,coarse hair and have spent 20 years using multiple products (that don't work) and fighting with my hair. Pre-treatment my hair is easy to blow-dry and style. The best part for me is that I can go out when it's foggy/misty and my hair doesn't react. No hairspray needed.

I'm not one for expensive treatments but if you find someone who knows what they're doing this treatment is worth every penny.

Just be aware you need to use sulphate and salt free shampoo and conditioner or you'll just strip the coating away.

NeedToChangeName · 29/06/2025 17:22

Lmnop22 · 27/06/2025 17:52

My hair is naturally wavy and very thick and it’s the worst to make look nice naturally. And I live in the North! It might look good for one morning or day but never ever longer and usually by evening it’s an ever increasing candy floss cloud.

I just blow dry, straighten and/or curl my hair now. Or chuck it up. It was too much hard work!

Suggest you try (1) comb your hair and leave it, handle as little as possible and (2) John frieda friz ease styling creme. Its miracle stuff. And hair spray

Took me decades to tame my hair but I got there eventually

thetorturedpoetsdepartmentssecretary · 29/06/2025 17:18

Alucard55 · 29/06/2025 14:06

I get a smoothing treatment every 4 months and that costs 120 including the cut. It's quite a long process (3-4 hours) but worth it. It puts a coating on your hair so it doesn't react to moisture.

I can honestly say it's life changing. I had tried every product/method going but unless it was a very hot dry day outside my hair would turn into a frizzy coarse mess. It's an essential for me now.

You do need to use sulphate and salt free shampoo and conditioner afterwards though as those ingredients strip the keratin.

Does this straighten it or leave it curly/wavy?

CastleofMey · 29/06/2025 15:48

Alucard55 · 29/06/2025 14:06

I get a smoothing treatment every 4 months and that costs 120 including the cut. It's quite a long process (3-4 hours) but worth it. It puts a coating on your hair so it doesn't react to moisture.

I can honestly say it's life changing. I had tried every product/method going but unless it was a very hot dry day outside my hair would turn into a frizzy coarse mess. It's an essential for me now.

You do need to use sulphate and salt free shampoo and conditioner afterwards though as those ingredients strip the keratin.

Thanks @Alucard55 , that sounds like a miracle. Could you post a link to the salon you use please?

Alucard55 · 29/06/2025 14:06

CastleofMey · 29/06/2025 13:55

So right @Alucard55 , none of the products work.

I’m 69 with coloured hair which in the past couple of years has morphed into an increasingly frizzy mass.

Would you please tell more about the keratin smoothing treatment? I understood that was just a temporary fix and an actual Brazilian Blowout/Keratin Treatment is the only long term (6/8 weeks), and very expensive, answer.

I get a smoothing treatment every 4 months and that costs 120 including the cut. It's quite a long process (3-4 hours) but worth it. It puts a coating on your hair so it doesn't react to moisture.

I can honestly say it's life changing. I had tried every product/method going but unless it was a very hot dry day outside my hair would turn into a frizzy coarse mess. It's an essential for me now.

You do need to use sulphate and salt free shampoo and conditioner afterwards though as those ingredients strip the keratin.

CastleofMey · 29/06/2025 13:55

Alucard55 · 29/06/2025 10:08

Keratin smoothing treatment. None of the overpriced products work.

So right @Alucard55 , none of the products work.

I’m 69 with coloured hair which in the past couple of years has morphed into an increasingly frizzy mass.

Would you please tell more about the keratin smoothing treatment? I understood that was just a temporary fix and an actual Brazilian Blowout/Keratin Treatment is the only long term (6/8 weeks), and very expensive, answer.

Alucard55 · 29/06/2025 10:08

Keratin smoothing treatment. None of the overpriced products work.

NegroniMacaroni · 29/06/2025 09:58

I feel you OP. It's so frustrating. I used to fight my hair but now I can't be bothered - I just wear it up all the time, and save loads of time and money by cutting it myself. I don't see the point of paying a professional as it's never worn down. I did buy professional scissors so the hair is cut well / no split ends (which I was getting from crap scissors).

EmotionallyWeird · 29/06/2025 08:17

My hair is very similar to how you describe yours.

I've never straightened it and never will. I just don't like straight hair on me.

I use shampoo, conditioner and occasionally salt spray and I just let it dry naturally. I use a detangling comb at the stage of using conditioner, then I try to squeeze rather than rub it with the towel. As it dries I separate it with my hands. That results in nice soft waves about 80-90% of the time. If it goes "wrong," it usually goes wrong in the direction of too straight, especially if I started messing with it when it was still fairly wet. I don't like that look but I can live with it - I'm not the sort of person who cannot go outside unless they love the way they look.

You have the same choice - accept that wavy hair never dries the same way twice and some days it won't be quite what you wanted, or straighten it. Personally I would do anything rather than straighten because straight hair looks so limp and unhealthy on me, but yours might behave differently.

Bridport · 28/06/2025 20:54

I'm 60 and have had pretty much 60 years of hair fine wavy hair (and not in a good way - frizzes at first sign of humidity, sticks out at angles, always a bloody mess). Fed up of expensive stuff that didn't work and feeling untidy I just gave in either to straightening or the usual fluffy tangle.

Well bugger me! A month ago for some reason, after I'd washed my hair as usual, I thought I'd just use my detangling comb not a brush (why hadn't I thought of that before) and then pin it up into little curl/ringlets type things close to my head for the evening. Well it was brilliant. I obviously thought this was a fluke and it would kink out like a bastard again the following morning - but no. I do it every time now and for the first time in my life my hair is doing what I want.

This isn't advice, so please don't shoot me...but I just want to say never give up hope as I stumbled upon this by accident when I could have been doing it and saving myself a whole lotta grief my entire life.

KimberleyClark · 28/06/2025 20:02

I have coarse, dry, bushy hair and live in a very hard water area. I used to go on holiday in the French Alps quite often and stayed in a village up the hill from Evian. My hair was always lovely after washing it there!

we were at Victoria Falls last year and while walking at the Falls my hair became soaked with spray. Back at the hotel I just blow dried it without shampooing and it was lovely and soft!

Waitingfordoggo · 28/06/2025 19:00

I have coarse, dry, bushy hair and live in a very hard water area. I used to go on holiday in the French Alps quite often and stayed in a village up the hill from Evian. My hair was always lovely after washing it there!

I have given up with mine. I don’t have the inclination or skills for styling or regimes and I am loathe to spend loads on products, so I just keep it simple. Wear it back in a claw clip most of the time and only brush it when I wash it which is about once a week- any more than that and it’s just Worzel Gummage territory. Older women keep telling me their once-thick hair has thinned with age so I’m just trying to feel grateful for my bird’s nest while it’s still there. (Also my husband is practically bald and tells me to be thankful 😂) To be fair it does always look great when it’s been styled by a hairdresser but I only get round to that about twice a year.

longtompot · 28/06/2025 18:54

I had a good routine and had amazing curls but the longer I go into menopause the frizzier it has got, especially at the back, and the curls start at the roots. Really odd as I used to have dead straight hair which I had regularly permed during my teens/early 20s, though the perm always lasted at the back and dropped at the front.
My routine is shampoo with a moisturising shampoo (currently using Aussie miracle moist but not keen on the smell) and then a moisturising conditioner, Garnier hair mask in the big pot, and comb that through which is the only time a brush or comb touches my hair, rinse and then serum through the ends and mid way up the back where the frizz is the worst. It then sits wrapped in a towel for a good 20 mins whilst getting dressed etc then I spray leave in conditioner spray and then use a curl cream.
Sadly the back feels matted by the end of the day and super frizzy. I have longish hair that comes to about an inch or so above my bra strap which has longer layers cut through. It may need to have a trim as it's been a few months

anon12345anon · 28/06/2025 16:24

AlwaysFreezing · 28/06/2025 07:13

Ok. I know you said no new products but hear me out.

Cheap gel. Like the stuff that costs a couple of quid and comes in a pot. You could buy the £5 version that's green and contains olive oil.

On sopping wet hair apply a dollop, smoothing as you go. You could do some finger twists or not.

It'll give your hair some hold but it won't do what a lot of other curly products do, which is weigh it down or make it greasy. It just helps keep everything smooth and in place.

Worth a try?

I might try this....thanks Smile