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To think co-parenting is often just damage control for a bad decision?

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ThisSharpJadeDreamer · 27/06/2025 15:39

“We’re putting the child first” usually means “we’re trying to minimise the fallout.”

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SleepingStandingUp · 27/06/2025 16:15

ThisSharpJadeDreamer · 27/06/2025 16:09

No, I’m not saying people should stay together at all costs or that co-parenting isn’t worth doing. What I am saying is that when we praise ‘great co-parenting’, we often skip over the fact that it’s still damage control after a breakdown. It’s not about blaming people for separating, it’s about being honest that even the healthiest co-parenting setups are responses to something that didn't work out as intended. That context matters, especially when we start idealising it as a gold standard.

But no one is idelasing it as the gold standard. The gold standard is a happy, healthy, secure relationship of you've chosen to have children with your partner. No one thinks or pretends the ideal thing is to break up. This is definitely a you thing I think. And it's so obvious that "we co-parent well" means since we split up that it doesn't need stating. Do you think "so we've divorced" should proceed every sentence as a mark of shame?

Acommonreader · 27/06/2025 16:15

littleburn · 27/06/2025 16:12

But co-parenting by definition follows a relationship breakdown. So no one feels the need to precede comments on co-parenting with the caveat that ‘obviously this wasn’t our plan A’.

Exactly! No one asks separated parents- was co parenting after divorce in fact your plan all along or is this all code for a break up? One thing leads to the other. Odd thread.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 27/06/2025 16:15

Firstly, divorce isn’t necessarily a ‘bad decision’, @ThisSharpJadeDreamer. If a marriage isn’t working, if there is abuse, infidelity, misery, discord, fighting - then surely leaving the marriage is a good decision?

Secondly, it is the mature, adult, caring thing to do, for the children, to try to co-parent as well as possible. I don’t think this is ‘romanticising’ anything - I think it is how parents who are divorced should act. Sadly too many parents don’t manage to co-parent well (or at all) - I have seen too many stories on here and elsewhere from women whose ex-husbands are being as difficult as possible over parenting, or who are using their kids to try to hurt their ex, with no regard for how this is hurting their children.

Surely ‘putting the child first’ is how things should be done, not something to be criticised?

Fratolish · 27/06/2025 16:14

littleburn · 27/06/2025 16:12

But co-parenting by definition follows a relationship breakdown. So no one feels the need to precede comments on co-parenting with the caveat that ‘obviously this wasn’t our plan A’.

Exactly. What's the alternative if you've split up? NOT co parenting??

Fratolish · 27/06/2025 16:13

ThisSharpJadeDreamer · 27/06/2025 16:09

No, I’m not saying people should stay together at all costs or that co-parenting isn’t worth doing. What I am saying is that when we praise ‘great co-parenting’, we often skip over the fact that it’s still damage control after a breakdown. It’s not about blaming people for separating, it’s about being honest that even the healthiest co-parenting setups are responses to something that didn't work out as intended. That context matters, especially when we start idealising it as a gold standard.

Do you honestly believe people are saying it's the gold standard like it's better than a happy couple staying together?! Cos I promise you they're not!

I object to the poster suggesting I and others are being smart arses. We're not. I am genuinely struggling with what the op is getting at..

People are praised for co parenting well because it's widely acknowledged how fucking hard it is to maintain a healthy relationship with someone post split. That's all.

saltinesandcoffeecups · 27/06/2025 16:13

@Acommonreader I’m really not getting what point or question you have?

Is it the label Co-parenting or the act of Co-parenting that you have an issue with? Or is it the fact that co-parenting exists in the first place?

Co-parenting is what is. It’s not a magical brand and nobody, in my experience, thinks it’s anything but a descriptor.

Meadowfinch · 27/06/2025 16:12

Having read a lot of posts on here from married mothers, co-parenting is the same regardless of whether you all live in the same house or not.

Negotiation over drop offs, pickups, bathtime, food, access to devices, commitment to education, opinions on holidays......

Being separated or not doesn't come in to it. If anything, being separated is better because at least the child gets to live in a peaceful house, not constantly in a state of war, at least part of the time.

littleburn · 27/06/2025 16:12

ThisSharpJadeDreamer · 27/06/2025 16:09

No, I’m not saying people should stay together at all costs or that co-parenting isn’t worth doing. What I am saying is that when we praise ‘great co-parenting’, we often skip over the fact that it’s still damage control after a breakdown. It’s not about blaming people for separating, it’s about being honest that even the healthiest co-parenting setups are responses to something that didn't work out as intended. That context matters, especially when we start idealising it as a gold standard.

But co-parenting by definition follows a relationship breakdown. So no one feels the need to precede comments on co-parenting with the caveat that ‘obviously this wasn’t our plan A’.

ThisSharpJadeDreamer · 27/06/2025 16:11

Sux2buthen · 27/06/2025 15:57

Don’t you think that when you drink water, you’re just trying to quench thirst or hydrate?

Sure but we don’t usually romanticise drinking water or present it as a triumph. My point is that some portrayals of co-parenting gloss over the fact that it’s a repair job after something went wrong. Naming that doesn’t diminish the effort- it just keeps it honest.

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Foragedflower · 27/06/2025 16:10

ThisSharpJadeDreamer · 27/06/2025 15:47

I meant co-parenting in the post-separation sense - when a relationship ends but the parents still have to coordinate around the child. I’m not talking about married or together couples parenting jointly. More about how “we’re co-parenting well” is often code for trying to manage the aftermath of a relationship that didn’t work out.

It was obvious what you meant. Irritating when people are smartarses.

I think it can work well but not often, honestly.

ThisSharpJadeDreamer · 27/06/2025 16:09

Fratolish · 27/06/2025 15:57

I'm another poster who's confused about what you're actually trying to get at. I don't think anyone disputes the fact that parents splitting up is going to be hard on the kids? Are you trying to say people should stay together 'for the sake of the kids'? People shouldn't even bother attempting to co-parent because their kids are fucked anyway?

No, I’m not saying people should stay together at all costs or that co-parenting isn’t worth doing. What I am saying is that when we praise ‘great co-parenting’, we often skip over the fact that it’s still damage control after a breakdown. It’s not about blaming people for separating, it’s about being honest that even the healthiest co-parenting setups are responses to something that didn't work out as intended. That context matters, especially when we start idealising it as a gold standard.

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Acommonreader · 27/06/2025 16:09

It’s not code. It’s not Plan A . It’s making the best of a situation that has happened. It is good parenting.
Anyone co parenting well after a break up should be applauded as many fail to co parent well. This is not romanticising.
We are all glad this has occurred to you. Maybe stay out of the sun.

Pateallday · 27/06/2025 16:08

I think you have confused "co-parenting" with "co-parenting well".

cardibach · 27/06/2025 16:08

ThisSharpJadeDreamer · 27/06/2025 16:06

Of course no one aspires to be co-parenting after a breakup - that’s not what I’m suggesting. But in public discourse, especially online, there’s often a tendency to praise ‘healthy co-parenting’ as though it’s a win in itself, without acknowledging the loss or harm that made it necessary. I think it’s possible to admire the effort while still being honest about the fact that it’s a Plan B and not an ideal setup for most families, even when done well.

Healthy co parenting is a win though. The alternative is unhealthy (or no) co parenting. The unwanted thing has already happened. Post a break up, co parenting is a win and a good thing. I don’t get what you are trying to say.

littleburn · 27/06/2025 16:08

I really don’t get your point OP. Unless it’s that a relationship breakdown is shameful, so therefore people shouldn’t be praised for doing their best and trying to make co-parenting work?

ThisSharpJadeDreamer · 27/06/2025 16:06

SleepingStandingUp · 27/06/2025 15:55

Who is it you spend your time with? I don't know anyone who romanticises relationship breakdown with children. DH and I don't sit on the sofa and dream about one day co-parenting. Kids aren't being raised to think the happiest place for a child is between two houses.

Of course no one aspires to be co-parenting after a breakup - that’s not what I’m suggesting. But in public discourse, especially online, there’s often a tendency to praise ‘healthy co-parenting’ as though it’s a win in itself, without acknowledging the loss or harm that made it necessary. I think it’s possible to admire the effort while still being honest about the fact that it’s a Plan B and not an ideal setup for most families, even when done well.

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StopStartStop · 27/06/2025 16:04

Co-parenting, particularly 50/50, is a con by men to get out of paying proper child support.
They aren't interested in looking after their children properly, they find a random woman to do it for them and call her a girlfriend. If she's providing the home and keep, so much the better.
Being half and half in different homes with different attitudes is confusing for children - the security of a single home is better.
Of course there are cases where fathers are decent people (perhaps) and where living with a mother full time is a living hell. But the principle holds.

QueenoftheTambourine · 27/06/2025 16:04

ThisSharpJadeDreamer · 27/06/2025 16:00

I hear you - I’m not saying every co-parent wishes the relationship or child hadn’t happened. I’m pointing out that co-parenting after a breakup is often about managing the fallout of a relationship that didn’t work out as intended. That doesn’t make the child or the parenting invalid - it just means the setup comes from a situation with emotional baggage and logistical complexity. Saying that isn’t an attack, it’s just naming the reality a lot of people are navigating.

But to whom are you 'pointing it out' and 'naming the reality'?

I don't think anyone thinks of post-separation co-parenting as any kind of ideal, just as a matter of (hopefully) both parents doing their best to navigate a new reality in the best way for their children.

ThisSharpJadeDreamer · 27/06/2025 16:03

MrTiddlesTheCat · 27/06/2025 15:54

What 'bad decision' are you referring to? The decision to have a relationship and children or the decision to end that relationship?

I meant the phrase “we’re co-parenting well” is often used to frame what is ultimately a tough, imperfect situation as a positive outcome. The bad decision isn’t necessarily having the child but rather that the romantic relationship broke down which often brings pain, disruption and hard compromises. I’m not blaming people, just reflecting on how we sometimes rebrand difficult circumstances with language that smooths over the messiness.

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Profhilodisaster · 27/06/2025 16:02

ThisSharpJadeDreamer · 27/06/2025 16:00

I hear you - I’m not saying every co-parent wishes the relationship or child hadn’t happened. I’m pointing out that co-parenting after a breakup is often about managing the fallout of a relationship that didn’t work out as intended. That doesn’t make the child or the parenting invalid - it just means the setup comes from a situation with emotional baggage and logistical complexity. Saying that isn’t an attack, it’s just naming the reality a lot of people are navigating.

I think you're stating the bleeding obvious

Artesia · 27/06/2025 16:02

Nobody thinks it's ideal. We aren't stupid. Just trying to do best by our children. I'm a bit baffled that you think anyone thinks otherwise. There's something a bit off and judgy about the whole premise of your question to me.

Profhilodisaster · 27/06/2025 16:01

I don't really get your point. Co parenting isn't code for anything, it is making sure that any fallout affects the children as little as possible and that they get to maintain a relationship with both parents.

ThisSharpJadeDreamer · 27/06/2025 16:00

SleepingStandingUp · 27/06/2025 15:53

Surely all parenting after a break up is managing the aftermath of a relationship that didn't work out. What's your point? What is the bad decision? Getting together? Most people in a position to co-parent well wouldn't prefer to have never had the relationship or kids, so it isn't a bad decision.

I hear you - I’m not saying every co-parent wishes the relationship or child hadn’t happened. I’m pointing out that co-parenting after a breakup is often about managing the fallout of a relationship that didn’t work out as intended. That doesn’t make the child or the parenting invalid - it just means the setup comes from a situation with emotional baggage and logistical complexity. Saying that isn’t an attack, it’s just naming the reality a lot of people are navigating.

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QueenoftheTambourine · 27/06/2025 16:00

ThisSharpJadeDreamer · 27/06/2025 15:58

Of course they should try to minimise the fallout, I’m not saying they shouldn’t. My point is more about how “co-parenting” is often spoken about in glowing terms, as if it’s an ideal in itself, when it usually stems from a relationship breakdown that’s already had consequences. I think we can acknowledge both the effort and the fact that it’s rarely Plan A.

Where is it that you're hearing this?

ThisSharpJadeDreamer · 27/06/2025 15:58

IsThisLifeNow · 27/06/2025 15:52

I don't understand what you mean, should a divorced/separated couple say 'ah we've fucked it, just give up and give them heroin now?'

Of course they are salvaging a bad situation and minimising the fall out. What else should they do?

Of course they should try to minimise the fallout, I’m not saying they shouldn’t. My point is more about how “co-parenting” is often spoken about in glowing terms, as if it’s an ideal in itself, when it usually stems from a relationship breakdown that’s already had consequences. I think we can acknowledge both the effort and the fact that it’s rarely Plan A.

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