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Am I a psychopath or do other people have this feeling?

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Ju11r · 27/06/2025 14:20

I consider myself a pretty average person. I have friends and a stable family, I work hard. But I have these odd feelings sometimes and I just can’t admit them in real life!

I often think of something bad happening to someone I know and not exactly hoping it happens but being curious about it if did. I don’t even want to say these sorts of things I’m thinking of, nothing death related but more like a crisis, someone getting divorced or losing a job. Things like that. Like a curiously about it unfolding. What is wrong with me?! I don’t wish these things happen but I know on some level my first feeling would be one of interest rather than concern. What is wrong with me?!

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silentlyleavetheirlife · 27/06/2025 20:13

I had a feeling someone was going to die, told this to my mum, the following week she died!

Not2identifying · 27/06/2025 20:08

I don't have this in terms of bad things happening to other people but I have read a lot about maladaptive daydreaming because I always (throughout my whole life, as far back as I can remember) have a narrative in my head that is totally unrelated to my real life. However, it's (good and bad) things happening to me. Things like imagining going on something like the Titan sub and being stuck on the seabed. Or winning the lottery. Or living alone on an island. Or renovating a house. And on and on.

Flustration · 27/06/2025 20:08

I'm not sure.

Intrusive thoughts are very normal, but why do you think that your first feeling if such a thing did really happen would be one of interest rather than concern? Have you ever had a similar reaction to a real life situation?

WorcsEdu · 27/06/2025 19:59

Totally normal. Can go into hyperdrive postpartum/post kids. It’s evolutionary and helps you avoid these situations happening (or prepare if they do).

Dontlletmedownbruce · 27/06/2025 19:56

I like the theory that it's the brains way of practicing or preparing. I spent the most awful night in hospital in a foreign country with my son when he was little and for a brief time genuinely didn't know if he would survive. I was so distraught I can't even articulate, but after a day of extreme stress and a long night my exhausted brain tried to convince myself that if he died or was brain damaged, I would cope, somehow. I thought about the logistics of flying him home to a hospital, but also worked out how dh and I would manage the other kids if I had to stay there for a few weeks. I thought of where the nearest rehab centre would be and how I'd manage to become his full time carer. I went through our finances and considered whether id leave work or take a sabbatical. I also decided the details of his funeral, what he would wear what song we would play, which teddy bear would be buried with him. I was very very ashamed afterwards (when he was perfectly fine!) that I had fantasised about his death but looking back now I see i was desperately trying to control the tiny things I could, and trying to do some prep work in case I was in that awful position to have to make decisions.

amberisola · 27/06/2025 19:21

I have intrusive thoughts that can be pretty frightening or disturbing. I now realise straight away that it's anxiety-driven, I need to ground myself and distract myself and then it's soon forgotten. Not sure if that's exactly what you mean OP but I'm sure it's all pretty normal.

soupyspoon · 27/06/2025 18:53

Yes they're just normal intrusive thoughts and the curiosity is also normal, I spent years working in MH and unless these thoughts disable you and take away your focus in every day life they're just average functions of your brain

Dery · 27/06/2025 18:40

My intrusive thoughts tend to be around doing something horribly inappropriate like deciding to strip in the middle of the office or shout something during a quiet part of a concert…

borntoweardiamonds · 27/06/2025 17:36

I'm forever joking with my son not to put things out to the universe because he has intrusive thoughts, but I think it's pretty common, and honestly, most people have them. 😂

Afewtimesagain · 27/06/2025 17:31

No, I don't think it would be "interesting" to watch people's lives fall apart and it's not something I think about.

Mymanyellow · 27/06/2025 17:05

It’s the waiting for something to happen that’s worse. If you imagine it happening and what the aftermath would be like it’s an illusion of control.

Noshadelamp · 27/06/2025 17:04

I actually prefer the ridiculous obvious intrusive thoughts because I know they are not real.
It's the thoughts that are so close to being real or my usual thoughts that are difficult to recognise as intrusive thoughts.

At least if my brain is saying I should sit in the middle of the road because my young dcs don't need me, I know that's not actually true, but when it's "no one likes you, stay in bed", well, I dunno, could be true 😅

Namechange032025 · 27/06/2025 17:04

WFHmutha25 · 27/06/2025 14:28

I was wondering if it was boredom. Thinking about how an event would force a shake up...

This makes sense. I get it sometimes

Ursulla · 27/06/2025 17:03

oldwhyno · 27/06/2025 16:37

This is completely normal. Even my 11 year old has them! It's your brains way of rehearsing and preparing for potential scenarios. Very healthy in moderation I'd say.

I dunno. I think it's normal, and neither healthy nor unhealthy, but it's not remotely useful. Because the actual scenarios that end up flooring us happen differently from what we imagine or - more likely - happen out of the blue.

Most non-imminent scenarios I've spent time and energy worrying over, playing with and hashing through in my head either never happened or turned up in vastly different circumstances than I could have predicted. The big one-off events that sent the furthest-reaching ripples, almost all arrived like a comet hitting a mute, uncomprehending neolithic being (me).

We are forever surrounded by chaos and destruction and death. Most of us, if lucky, are deep enough in our groove that although it surrounds us it only touches us a handful of times. But it's always there. And we can't control it, certainly not with mere thoughts and plans. We just tell ourselves that we can.

N27 · 27/06/2025 17:02

I often have thoughts while driving about how easy it would be to just turn the steering wheel and crash into a a tree or the central barrier. No idea why as I’ve absolutely no desire to do it but it always crosses my mind

OpalSpirit · 27/06/2025 17:01

Treatedme · 27/06/2025 14:53

but I know on some level my first feeling would be one of interest rather than concern

I think that is really odd. It suggests a real detachment from people who should be close to you.

I would say intrusive thoughts are more things you actually would hate to happen. Things that scare you or horrify you and that’s why they are intrusive, they feel awful.

The interest as a reaction is a different thing I think, although I am sure you are fine really!

Hollowvoice · 27/06/2025 16:58

I remember being in a restaurant with my parents while I was quite young (5-7 ish), watching the waiting staff bustling around and picturing what might happen if one of them fell over/crashed into someone else/dropped something

TheMagicDeckchair · 27/06/2025 16:58

It’s normal. I sometimes imagined pushing strangers off the train platform and felt horrified at my thoughts! Or dropping my children out of the bedroom window or down the stairs when they were babies.

Also read about the Call of the Void, when you briefly imagine jumping off a tall building or driving off a flyover.

AppropriateAdult · 27/06/2025 16:56

Dontlletmedownbruce · 27/06/2025 15:00

I've had some bizarre ones too. I'm a very practical person and often have planned what I'd do if DH died or DS was incapacitated or the house burned down, or some other awful event. They usually aren't emotional thoughts but more like who would pay for the funeral or would it be best to convert the sitting room to a bedroom, I know that all sounds ridiculous. I think there is an element of boredom and wanting drama in your life but not the reality of it. Possibly watching too much TV drama too.

This.

I don’t think these are intrusive thoughts, OP - those are, by their nature, completely the opposite to what you would want to happen, and therefore really distressing. I think what you’re describing is more the natural human urge for a bit of drama, particularly when we can imagine ourselves coping admirably with it. Exploring ‘what if?’ scenarios like this is a safe way to indulge that desire, without anyone else having to be hurt.

Phobiaphobic · 27/06/2025 16:50

Ju11r · 27/06/2025 14:20

I consider myself a pretty average person. I have friends and a stable family, I work hard. But I have these odd feelings sometimes and I just can’t admit them in real life!

I often think of something bad happening to someone I know and not exactly hoping it happens but being curious about it if did. I don’t even want to say these sorts of things I’m thinking of, nothing death related but more like a crisis, someone getting divorced or losing a job. Things like that. Like a curiously about it unfolding. What is wrong with me?! I don’t wish these things happen but I know on some level my first feeling would be one of interest rather than concern. What is wrong with me?!

Given today I happily indulged the thought of my psycho neighbours meeting an untimely death, I'd say it's pretty normal.

oldwhyno · 27/06/2025 16:37

This is completely normal. Even my 11 year old has them! It's your brains way of rehearsing and preparing for potential scenarios. Very healthy in moderation I'd say.

Muffinmam · 27/06/2025 16:37

Yes, people have these thoughts. It’s really weird when they actually happen though.

My SIL was awful to me. I imagined her divorce and having to sell her beautiful house. She lost her job too (I didn’t imagine that).

Even though she’s lost everything she is really happy now. She has a new house that she doesn’t have to share with her husband, she has a new job and she’s sleeping with someone new. She’s basically got a fresh start and now I envy her for that.

There’s no point in wishing ill on other people. It’s just wasting energy.

A former friend who screwed me over lost her father to cancer and was herself in an horrific accident not long after and died at the scene.

A former colleague who sabotaged my career was under investigation over something very serious she absolutely did (after I left) and had to leave her job. With all the drama she missed the opportunity to ever have children.

Horrible things happen to people all the time. There’s no point wishing bad thoughts on other people because life can be brutal.

Also, you’re not a psychopath. Psychopaths don’t sit around thinking they might be psychopaths.

MorrisZapp · 27/06/2025 16:26

I think this stuff all the time. I think it's completely normal.

Dontlletmedownbruce · 27/06/2025 16:19

Was it Bridget Jones who fantasised about someone dying and how exciting it would be to be the one telling everyone and organising everything. I read it many years ago and it made me laugh because it captured exactly the type of ridiculous thoughts I'd had too. Its like when someone is murdered and the media interview local random people who tell us how awful it is, but you can see they are having the time of their lives!!

Bettyfromhomeroom · 27/06/2025 16:18

funinthesun19 · 27/06/2025 14:26

They’re intrusive thoughts and I think everyone has had them at some point. I always have this massive weird urge to put my phone on to the edge of the bath to see what would happen (eg whether it would fall in or stay put) and it drives me mad! 🤦🏼‍♀️

Agree they are intrusive thoughts, I have similar.

My phone falls in the bath at least once a month! You'd think I'd learn not to put it on the edge of the bath, but nope!