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To think the teachers resent me?

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ThisMonkeysGoneToAldi · 27/06/2025 06:34

I work at lunchtimes only, minimum wage, I used to teach but like this role as it fits around school drop offs/pick ups.
At various times we need to line children up, gather them together to put sun hats on etc. Many staff let them run/scream to do this. But I prefer to get them walking rather than running, sing songs or read a quick story which keeps them calm. One girl can get extremely upset when it’s noisy, but LOVES songs. I get really bad vibes off the SLT when I do this but I’m sure it’s the right thing to do? One v sweet member of staff said ‘you get them sitting beautifully’ and TBH, I think I do?? But the leaders there really don’t like me!!

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Mumoftrois · 03/07/2025 21:46

Oh that sounds lovely, as a Head of School I would love if our staff did that at lunch. Not sure where the bad vibes are coming from x

pharmer · 29/06/2025 23:16

pikkumyy77 · 27/06/2025 14:40

I agree with this. I interned at a school for a year while doing my social work degree (in the states) and I think this notion of the necessary free for all is bizarre. At line up, at recess, and at lunch (for example) children need a lot of help channeling their energy appropriately. Singing, marching, hopping, skipping are sll good ways of moving them through space to get out of doors. Reading a book to them, time permitting, is a great thing to do if the process is stalled by another teacher not getting her class ready.

With respect you were a social worker undergraduate, not a teacher, and don't necessarily understand why things are done a certain way in schools.

Shinyandnew1 · 29/06/2025 17:10

What are the members of SLT doing/saying whilst you're doing this to make you think they don't like you?

Are they just standing there in the classroom watching you?

AJLOAL · 29/06/2025 16:52

Sorry, SLT?

IButtleSir · 29/06/2025 09:11

Smartiepants79 · 27/06/2025 07:15

The tone of your post does come across as a bit smug and superior. Like you think you and your methods are brilliant and the other teachers (who let them ‘scream/run’??) are a bit crap. Maybe this is the vibe that you are giving off and it’s annoyed some colleagues. I don’t know. It’s a bit unusual for a SLT to be so involved in what sounds like lunchtime for EYFS. Maybe they are not very nice people?? We all have colleagues we just don’t jell with.
Have a word if it’s bothering you that much but you’re only there 1 and a half hours a day and it sounds like you have a couple of colleagues you get along with and the children like you so I’d just be ignoring and getting on with my day.

The tone of your post does come across as a bit smug and superior. Like you think you and your methods are brilliant and the other teachers (who let them ‘scream/run’??) are a bit crap. Maybe this is the vibe that you are giving off and it’s annoyed some colleagues.

Sorry, @ThisMonkeysGoneToAldi, this does sound quite likely. Either that or it's all in your head.

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jasminocereusbritannicus · 29/06/2025 07:03

At our school the TAs are the lunchtime supervisors. ( I chose not to be one) They don’t have time to do all that… it’s get the kids lined up to walk out and then let them have have half an hour’s play before lunch ( or vice versa depending on year groups). Then the teachers come and collect them at the end of lunch break. TAs then spend 10-15 mins returning left behind lunchboxes, drink bottles, sweatshirts, cardigans, coats ( presuming names are in them) and putting away abandoned play equipment. There is absolutely no time for songs and stories, so I suspect although you are not exactly doing anything wrong, it may just be raising eyebrows.

Xmasxrackers · 28/06/2025 21:29

ThisMonkeysGoneToAldi · 27/06/2025 06:48

The bad vibes are a sense of ‘being sent to Coventry’ which my colleague has picked up on too in terms of the way they behave towards me. My immediate boss is not part of the SLT in the area where I work, she’s lovely and not like that at all - so I stick with her appraisal of me. But it’s just not a nice ‘feeling’ to experience daily.

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So you feel a bit like they look down their noses at tou? When I was a teaching assistant there were a few teachers who made me feel like that NQT now and I’d hate to make someone feel that way

Cutie101 · 28/06/2025 19:30

You sound like a dream! Don't suppose you are looking to swap schools?! I'd snap you up immediately if you were local to me, don't want to identify myself by I'm in an inner London (but only just) local authority

Muffsies · 27/06/2025 21:42

coolbreezes · 27/06/2025 14:45

What are you expecting them to do? Come and congratulate you continuously? They probably have other things on their mind.

They may just have more things they need to talk about with the full time staff? I think if you want to be treated like a teaching colleague you need to go back to being a teaching colleague?

I think you are making this into a big thing because it gives you some professional self esteem. But for every child who likes the orderly calm method there will be others who would rather have a little longer to tear about and be wild. It isn't a better /worse method it's just different

I like this post. Your last paragraph could be on the money.

Muffsies · 27/06/2025 21:41

I like this. Your last paragraph could be one the money.

proximalhumerous · 27/06/2025 18:23

I would be astonished if the SLT en masse give you more than a passing thought, to be perfectly honest.

(Also depressing how many teachers describe their pupils "sat" on the carpet.)

Pingiop · 27/06/2025 17:59

I suggest you just to what’s in your job role. Does it say you need to be telling them stories? The teachers are probably pissed that you’re spending reading stories instead of just getting the kids ready to play out. In my school we only had a 20 minute morning break, and that’s including getting the kids ready and back, so you’re wasting time that the kids could have playing. I find it out, never met lunch time supervisors like this, egoists it great you have these skills, I can imagine it’s annoying you are just doing your job. Feels like you’re just wanting to do what you want rather than what’s best for the kids.

Pherian · 27/06/2025 17:21

ThisMonkeysGoneToAldi · 27/06/2025 06:34

I work at lunchtimes only, minimum wage, I used to teach but like this role as it fits around school drop offs/pick ups.
At various times we need to line children up, gather them together to put sun hats on etc. Many staff let them run/scream to do this. But I prefer to get them walking rather than running, sing songs or read a quick story which keeps them calm. One girl can get extremely upset when it’s noisy, but LOVES songs. I get really bad vibes off the SLT when I do this but I’m sure it’s the right thing to do? One v sweet member of staff said ‘you get them sitting beautifully’ and TBH, I think I do?? But the leaders there really don’t like me!!

If there is nothing you’re doing that’s wrong, then I suggest ignoring it entirely. Not everyone is going to like us as individuals all the time or at all and it’s ok.

The kids sound really well taken care of and probably love being around you. They are the ones that matter and it sounds like you’re doing an amazing job.

Julimia · 27/06/2025 15:07

Sorry but this is entirely in your head. If you are a teacher with QTS then it is not going togo away whatever job you have. Do as you hink you should do, take no notice. If you were not treating the children properly you would soon know about it.

coolbreezes · 27/06/2025 14:48

CoffeeCantata · 27/06/2025 10:33

This has made me think!

I was a secondary school teacher who re-trained for primary quite late and then worked as a classroom assistant (due to commitments with ailing elderly relatives - I didn't want the horrendous hours and responsibilities teachers have at that point in my life). I tried to be super-sensitive to my role and that of the teachers I worked with.

But I had no idea I wasn't supposed to talk to people higher up the ladder?!! Surely no-one thinks like that any more? I don't mean things I would discuss with my teacher - but on a casual, social level. I was older, most of the SLT were younger than me and I just speak to anyone and treat everyone the same (not impressed by hierarchies!!).

I'm not a hierarchical person. I happily chat to everyone in my team and value them all. But the reality is that I need to spend a lot more time having discussions with my team leaders than I do with the members of their teams, so we are much closer. Not because of "hierarchy" but just due to the reality of our roles.

coolbreezes · 27/06/2025 14:45

What are you expecting them to do? Come and congratulate you continuously? They probably have other things on their mind.

They may just have more things they need to talk about with the full time staff? I think if you want to be treated like a teaching colleague you need to go back to being a teaching colleague?

I think you are making this into a big thing because it gives you some professional self esteem. But for every child who likes the orderly calm method there will be others who would rather have a little longer to tear about and be wild. It isn't a better /worse method it's just different

pikkumyy77 · 27/06/2025 14:40

Orderofthephoenixparody · 27/06/2025 10:09

She did say they get out a lot quicker than the other class. The op sounds like a safe pair of hands they leave quietly and walk calmly to the playground.

I had an accident at school because the teacher wasn't watching and being diligent. The rest of the school day was spent in A and E.

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I agree with this. I interned at a school for a year while doing my social work degree (in the states) and I think this notion of the necessary free for all is bizarre. At line up, at recess, and at lunch (for example) children need a lot of help channeling their energy appropriately. Singing, marching, hopping, skipping are sll good ways of moving them through space to get out of doors. Reading a book to them, time permitting, is a great thing to do if the process is stalled by another teacher not getting her class ready.

Wackadaywideawake · 27/06/2025 14:32

Kindly, you have no idea what they are thinking. You are making assumptions. You could be way, way off.

The only way you’d know is if someone says something directly to you.

zoemum2006 · 27/06/2025 11:13

I think you might be struggling at being in a reduced role. (I would have the same problem). I used to teach and when my kids would were at primary school I’d do PTA stuff and view it more intensely than warranted because you can’t take the teacher out of yourself.

CoffeeCantata · 27/06/2025 10:33

Unexpecteddrivinginstructor · 27/06/2025 07:05

If you used to teach it could be that they resent your 'easy job' or it could be that as a teacher you didn't notice the hierarchy in the system as much. Why would the SMT be chatting to you? They are several pay grades above you now. Or maybe it is your imagination. None of these things relate to you as a person, they just see you doing that role.

This has made me think!

I was a secondary school teacher who re-trained for primary quite late and then worked as a classroom assistant (due to commitments with ailing elderly relatives - I didn't want the horrendous hours and responsibilities teachers have at that point in my life). I tried to be super-sensitive to my role and that of the teachers I worked with.

But I had no idea I wasn't supposed to talk to people higher up the ladder?!! Surely no-one thinks like that any more? I don't mean things I would discuss with my teacher - but on a casual, social level. I was older, most of the SLT were younger than me and I just speak to anyone and treat everyone the same (not impressed by hierarchies!!).

Sassybooklover · 27/06/2025 10:26

I do the exact same job as you in a First school (Foundation to Year 4), and our SLT wouldn't give two hoots, as long as the children are behaving and are where they're supposed to be!! You are a member of staff, it doesn't matter if you're a teacher or a cleaner, you should all be treated equally (unfortunately that doesn't happen in all schools!). Why do you think the SLT don't like you? I don't see any reason why, from what you've said. Surely if they thought you were doing something they didn't like/approve of, they'd have a quiet word?

Dramatic · 27/06/2025 10:20

Unexpecteddrivinginstructor · 27/06/2025 09:07

Wow that was a huge leap from what I said. If it matters to you I am on the lowest pay scale in my line of work, perfectly happy there, it suits my lifestyle and the pay is decent. Some higher up management are chatty and friendly, others can't bear to sit at the same table as us lower pay grades and yes it is the pay grade not the person because they don't actually know any of us individually. It is just the way that some people are and I was suggesting that perhaps the SMT in the OP's school think the same way.

Not a leap at all! You literally said "why would SLT chat to you? They are several pay grades above you now"

Orderofthephoenixparody · 27/06/2025 10:09

Sugargliderwombat · 27/06/2025 08:43

As a teacher it's really bloody irritating when lunchtime staff do this when they should be burning off energy. It really does get on my nerves to have someone sit them all down in the classroom they've just been in all morning and read a story which I do multiple times a day anyway anyway. Playtime is for playing and running.

She did say they get out a lot quicker than the other class. The op sounds like a safe pair of hands they leave quietly and walk calmly to the playground.

I had an accident at school because the teacher wasn't watching and being diligent. The rest of the school day was spent in A and E.

DueyCheatemAndHow · 27/06/2025 10:06

It just sounds altogether weird. Why are you sitting them down to read stories? Surely that isn't what you're supposed to be doing?

It sounds like you're grandstanding a bit to be honest

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