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Lifestyle Choices impacting on the NHS -Boiling my piss!!!!

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Lardychops · 27/06/2025 00:40

DH is currently on an NHS orthopaedics ward with around 7/8 other men.
He played 5 aside around 3 weeks ago , got bashed on the thigh and the bruise has spread and become hard and hot and painful, now infected and he needs it operated on due to risk of sepsis.

On the ward are 4 men 60 plus who have been involved in motorcycle accidents with legs in pins and have undergone several operations and been in hospital weeks ( 1 for months) as well as a young lad who was brought in yesterday following a cycling collision with another cyclist with his upper left side shattered. One other man was on a sponsored 3 peak running challenge (with a one man band scenario or such like ) and has shattered his ankle. Looking at an op tomo and a very long recuperation. yesterday a man left who had been in for three months after a skking accident with a broken hip that would not heal properly.

Am I unreasonable in thinking that with the NHS in the state it is at this current time that personal responsibility for lifestyle choices should be more of a consideration for all of us with the tax payer footing the bill for feckless and irresponsible behaviours.
It’s all avoidable surely , making better, healthier choices that do not willingly impact on limited resources.

Sports such as football, skiing, cycling, motorcross as well as mountaineering are risky to one’s health and people need to take personal responsibility.

Am I being unreasonable tax payers?

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Annoyeddd · 27/06/2025 08:49

LondonPapa · 27/06/2025 08:33

The NHS is under strain due to lifestyle choices, and generally people not understanding their end of the bargain. There is a push to focus on people looking after themselves first as the NHS won’t always be there to help. This has obviously started with making it clearer what a pharmacist can dispense / prescribe to avoid going to a GP. But we are a long way off from figuring out ED admissions.

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Going to a pharmacist first is no more looking after yourself than going to a gp - you are seeing a highly trained professional who can diagnose some things and then prescribe if necessary or send you to gp

deismevav · 27/06/2025 08:44

You’re being ridiculous. The benefits of exercise far outweigh the disadvantages. Most people who do sports don’t end up in hospital all the time.

If people didn’t do any exercise, they would end up in hospital anyway because of poor health.

I don’t think people should be penalised for any lifestyle choices, whether that’s exercising, taking drugs or smoking. The NHS is there for all of us.

Moomdingou · 27/06/2025 08:40

Bikergran · 27/06/2025 08:30

Just as an aside, throat cancer is NOT always caused by HPV, as you imply here, there are many factors that can trigger it, including chemical or radiation exposure.

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It’s a major cause of throat cancer, didn’t say it was the sole cause. I stand by what I said.

LondonPapa · 27/06/2025 08:33

Lardychops · 27/06/2025 00:40

DH is currently on an NHS orthopaedics ward with around 7/8 other men.
He played 5 aside around 3 weeks ago , got bashed on the thigh and the bruise has spread and become hard and hot and painful, now infected and he needs it operated on due to risk of sepsis.

On the ward are 4 men 60 plus who have been involved in motorcycle accidents with legs in pins and have undergone several operations and been in hospital weeks ( 1 for months) as well as a young lad who was brought in yesterday following a cycling collision with another cyclist with his upper left side shattered. One other man was on a sponsored 3 peak running challenge (with a one man band scenario or such like ) and has shattered his ankle. Looking at an op tomo and a very long recuperation. yesterday a man left who had been in for three months after a skking accident with a broken hip that would not heal properly.

Am I unreasonable in thinking that with the NHS in the state it is at this current time that personal responsibility for lifestyle choices should be more of a consideration for all of us with the tax payer footing the bill for feckless and irresponsible behaviours.
It’s all avoidable surely , making better, healthier choices that do not willingly impact on limited resources.

Sports such as football, skiing, cycling, motorcross as well as mountaineering are risky to one’s health and people need to take personal responsibility.

Am I being unreasonable tax payers?

The NHS is under strain due to lifestyle choices, and generally people not understanding their end of the bargain. There is a push to focus on people looking after themselves first as the NHS won’t always be there to help. This has obviously started with making it clearer what a pharmacist can dispense / prescribe to avoid going to a GP. But we are a long way off from figuring out ED admissions.

Bikergran · 27/06/2025 08:30

Moomdingou · 27/06/2025 00:50

But you could the same with patients who are having treatment due to smoking, alcohol, drugs, having kids is a lifestyle choice, heart attacks due lifestyle choices, lung transplants due to smoking, what about women with cervical cancer? Or men with penile cancer or anyone who has throat cancer which are all caused due to HPV? Or people with HIV or AIDS due unprotected sex or shared needles? Should these people be allowed treatment? YABU.

Just as an aside, throat cancer is NOT always caused by HPV, as you imply here, there are many factors that can trigger it, including chemical or radiation exposure.

luckylavender · 27/06/2025 08:28

Do you include your husband?

pottylolly · 27/06/2025 08:28

if you think that way EVERYTHING is a lifestyle choice

Summertime62 · 27/06/2025 08:27

Obesity and inactivity are two of the biggest costs to the NHS. These can be considered lifestyle choices. They increase likelihood of lots of disease too. Drinking, smoking and eating junk food / upf are all lifestyle choices that are bad for you. That’s probably most the population all making choices that are ‘detrimental’ to their health…

jeezelouisepumpkin · 27/06/2025 08:27

Chungai · 27/06/2025 08:22

Children and teens are much less likely to break bones these days.

But much more likely to have mental health issues that hospitalise them.

Swings and roundabouts.

Excellent point.

Iwillclasptheeagain · 27/06/2025 08:27

You would have to be just a little daft to think this thread was posted in earnest.

jeezelouisepumpkin · 27/06/2025 08:26

Financialthymes · 27/06/2025 02:00

Thought this was going to be about a ward full of obese alcoholic smokers - not men going about their lives playing sport - like your DH. Isn’t playing 5 a side a lifestyle choice?

This. Should your husband pay too?
My teen has had various injuries / breaks from playing sport. Should he / we pay? Or should he stop playing sorts as we can’t afford private care?
Should those who chose to drive rather than walk to the shops and got into an accident pay?
What about people who need treating for Lyme disease after going hiking?
Are you going to charge all type 2 diabetes sufferers? Gout? Cardiovascular disease surgery and treatment?

You haven’t thought this through, have you?

ChandrilanDiscoDroid · 27/06/2025 08:25

Chungai · 27/06/2025 08:22

Children and teens are much less likely to break bones these days.

But much more likely to have mental health issues that hospitalise them.

Swings and roundabouts.

I dunno about you, but I'd much, much rather my DC had the broken bone from sport than the MH issues. Broken bones heal themselves, completely. Serious MH issues, not so much.

Whammyyammy · 27/06/2025 08:24

Cringe post of the day.

turkeyboots · 27/06/2025 08:23

There is always a Sat and Sun mid morning rush in our local hospital where injured kids come in from their training sessions. They are less likely to need repeat operations, but it's still a lifestyle choice costing the health service.

Chungai · 27/06/2025 08:22

Children and teens are much less likely to break bones these days.

But much more likely to have mental health issues that hospitalise them.

Swings and roundabouts.

Thedailybeachedwhale · 27/06/2025 08:20

I thought this was going to be a thread about alcoholics, drug addicts, morbidly obese people eating themselves to death etc

Yeah you're being unreasonable and your husband was also injured doing a sport

ChandrilanDiscoDroid · 27/06/2025 08:20

ConcernedOfClapham · 27/06/2025 07:46

I think it should be illegal to leave the house, now we can all WFH 😡

Staying at home has big risks, you know. Obesity, social isolation which is very bad for your health, deteriorating muscle tone and bone density, poor mental health, eyesight deterioration, falling down the stairs...

Living is risky.

Fizbosshoes · 27/06/2025 08:19

ConcernedOfClapham · 27/06/2025 07:46

I think it should be illegal to leave the house, now we can all WFH 😡

We've had hospital visits after accidents in the home (badly cut finger while cutting lamb off the bone and DS swallowing a foreign object are 2 that come to mind) ...so literally nowhere is safe! 😃
Apparently cutting your hand while trying to get the stone out of an avocado is a common injury!!

Applesonthelawn · 27/06/2025 08:17

Accidents happen.
The NHS is in a mess mostly because of the vast inefficiencies, and secondly because the cost of the obesity crisi. Smoking and drinking are nothing in comparison to the cost of obesity.
Living healthily matters as in being slim and fit and that is a matter of personal responsibility and self discipline, but you can't seriously expect people to stop crossing the road or just living.

Moomdingou · 27/06/2025 08:10

I’ve noticed op has came back…

Avantiagain · 27/06/2025 08:08

This cannot be a serious post.

Seagullandclouds · 27/06/2025 08:07

There are a lot of these types of thread today.

Jenkibubble · 27/06/2025 08:06

Lardychops · 27/06/2025 00:40

DH is currently on an NHS orthopaedics ward with around 7/8 other men.
He played 5 aside around 3 weeks ago , got bashed on the thigh and the bruise has spread and become hard and hot and painful, now infected and he needs it operated on due to risk of sepsis.

On the ward are 4 men 60 plus who have been involved in motorcycle accidents with legs in pins and have undergone several operations and been in hospital weeks ( 1 for months) as well as a young lad who was brought in yesterday following a cycling collision with another cyclist with his upper left side shattered. One other man was on a sponsored 3 peak running challenge (with a one man band scenario or such like ) and has shattered his ankle. Looking at an op tomo and a very long recuperation. yesterday a man left who had been in for three months after a skking accident with a broken hip that would not heal properly.

Am I unreasonable in thinking that with the NHS in the state it is at this current time that personal responsibility for lifestyle choices should be more of a consideration for all of us with the tax payer footing the bill for feckless and irresponsible behaviours.
It’s all avoidable surely , making better, healthier choices that do not willingly impact on limited resources.

Sports such as football, skiing, cycling, motorcross as well as mountaineering are risky to one’s health and people need to take personal responsibility.

Am I being unreasonable tax payers?

When I saw the title of your post I thought you were going to be criticism smokers , heavy drinkers and the obese .

At least cyclists and footballers are preventing heart / weight issues

THESe are the lifestyle choices that ‘boil my piss ‘
Ex MIL continues to smoke despite having had heart bypass last year
A colleague’s mum continued to heavily drink and smoke whilst undergoing chemo .

Does the system become one where you pay premiums based on your risk ?

Maybe it is the way forward !

Imdunfer · 27/06/2025 08:03

Given your user name I suspect you're just trying to justify to yourself your own lack of activity.

EggnogNoggin · 27/06/2025 07:59

So to clarify, you want actual legislation to ban running and cycling?

Can you just step back and tell myself whether you think thst will get public support and pasd through Parliament?

OK, now you've given yourself a reality check, can we talk about your hypocrisy about your husbands accident being a valid use of resources but not others? What if that bruise had been a broken leg thst needed pinning? Or would your grant a special exemption for football LardyChops?