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Lifestyle Choices impacting on the NHS -Boiling my piss!!!!

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Lardychops · 27/06/2025 00:40

DH is currently on an NHS orthopaedics ward with around 7/8 other men.
He played 5 aside around 3 weeks ago , got bashed on the thigh and the bruise has spread and become hard and hot and painful, now infected and he needs it operated on due to risk of sepsis.

On the ward are 4 men 60 plus who have been involved in motorcycle accidents with legs in pins and have undergone several operations and been in hospital weeks ( 1 for months) as well as a young lad who was brought in yesterday following a cycling collision with another cyclist with his upper left side shattered. One other man was on a sponsored 3 peak running challenge (with a one man band scenario or such like ) and has shattered his ankle. Looking at an op tomo and a very long recuperation. yesterday a man left who had been in for three months after a skking accident with a broken hip that would not heal properly.

Am I unreasonable in thinking that with the NHS in the state it is at this current time that personal responsibility for lifestyle choices should be more of a consideration for all of us with the tax payer footing the bill for feckless and irresponsible behaviours.
It’s all avoidable surely , making better, healthier choices that do not willingly impact on limited resources.

Sports such as football, skiing, cycling, motorcross as well as mountaineering are risky to one’s health and people need to take personal responsibility.

Am I being unreasonable tax payers?

OP posts:
Lardychops · 27/06/2025 23:55

Mothership4two · 27/06/2025 05:14

Thought this thread was going to be about smoking, drinking and obesity!

OP is your DH aware of how furious you are at his feckless and irresponsible behaviour?

He is indeed and im
thinking of LingTB!!

OP posts:
Lardychops · 27/06/2025 23:53

Tobacco · 27/06/2025 03:39

The thread title drew in a couple of posters who were very disappointed to discover it wasn't about obesity 😄

Indeed it did …xx

OP posts:
XenoBitch · 27/06/2025 21:56

Lifelover16 · 27/06/2025 21:47

OP you didn’t include all the weekend DIYs falling off stepladders, hitting themselves with hammers, cutting themselves with sharp implements and power toolls, eye injuries from not wearing safety goggles etc (Lighthearted, but these things do happen)

Edited

My dad had an op after falling over at home. 16 pins in his shoulder, and he will never lift his arm above his head again.

CuteOrangeElephant · 27/06/2025 21:52

DiscoBob · 27/06/2025 11:25

It's an orthopedic trauma ward. Of course those are the kind of accidents men get to break a bone. If you're not really elderly. Sports injuries and motorcycle/bike collision.

I was in the ortho trauma ward for five weeks. One young girl broke her arm falling off a bicycle. Everyone else was a fall from standing height or being knocked by a vehicle. Most other female patients were seventy five- 90 yo.

So it does seem like mens hobbies are much more dangerous than women's, that's for sure. I used to be surprised I was still alive every time I got off my boyfriend's motorbike.

My DH spent 6 weeks in a 22 bed ortho trauma ward. There were 2 teenagers who were there on account of doing stupid teenager stuff. There was DH in his thirties, who got put in a corner with the two young ones.

Almost everyone else there was 70+.

Lifelover16 · 27/06/2025 21:47

OP you didn’t include all the weekend DIYs falling off stepladders, hitting themselves with hammers, cutting themselves with sharp implements and power toolls, eye injuries from not wearing safety goggles etc (Lighthearted, but these things do happen)

BigFatBully · 27/06/2025 21:45

Witchling · 27/06/2025 21:39

Donor cycles

Wow, nice to know NHS staff have such a high amount of respect for the public....to describe their deceased bodies in such a manner ! 🙄

But hang on, these are the same group of people who were rehearsing dance videos on Tik Tok while claiming to be "overwhelmed" a couple of years back and relishing in the hero-worshipping and freebies that gullible businesses provided as we were all forced to stay stuck at home to "protect the NHS". Suddenly, I'm not surprised at the blatant disregard for patients.

XenoBitch · 27/06/2025 21:41

Witchling · 27/06/2025 21:39

Donor cycles

Yet they rely on paramedics on motorcycles, and the amazing volunteers who do blood bank runs etc.

NHS staff also ride motorcycles.

Thehop · 27/06/2025 21:40

Your husband is the same! 5 a side was a choice and he's taking a bed up!

XenoBitch · 27/06/2025 21:40

Did you even read your own post?

Witchling · 27/06/2025 21:39

Mothership4two · 27/06/2025 09:58

"Organ donors" is a traditional nickname for motorcyclists by NHS staff

Donor cycles

BigFatBully · 27/06/2025 21:37

viques · 27/06/2025 20:03

Well if we want people to pay how about we make it mandatory that tourists have health insurance for unexpected illnesses AND that hospitals actually bother to follow through and collect. Because loads don’t, on both counts.

I would also start charging people who have gone abroad for cheap and unnecessary surgery that hasn’t worked but expect the NHS to fix it for free.

But if you want to pick the low hanging fruit then go ahead, after all , whats wrong with a few people lying in the street with broken legs, coughing and spreading communicable diseases, giving birth to babies in public toilets?

Oh yes, we absolutely must charge non-nationals for healthcare, I thought this was already the case. If I went to Spain, it's the law that I must have insurance in case I become ill or injure myself. Our country gives so much away to other nations and their people and then wonders why the funds are supposedly low.

For such a small island, I think England has done it's bit of charity towards other nations. We've gone above and beyond.

viques · 27/06/2025 20:03

BigFatBully · 27/06/2025 10:39

That's why we pay taxes and national insurance.

It's the unpaid for patients that enter the country illegally that attention should be brought towards.

Well if we want people to pay how about we make it mandatory that tourists have health insurance for unexpected illnesses AND that hospitals actually bother to follow through and collect. Because loads don’t, on both counts.

I would also start charging people who have gone abroad for cheap and unnecessary surgery that hasn’t worked but expect the NHS to fix it for free.

But if you want to pick the low hanging fruit then go ahead, after all , whats wrong with a few people lying in the street with broken legs, coughing and spreading communicable diseases, giving birth to babies in public toilets?

LittlleMy · 27/06/2025 18:36

Where would it end though? There has already been debate about whether addictions should be treated on NHS, smokers, people on a night out who drink themselves silly and then get an injury shouldn’t be treated. It was decided to be unethical to discriminate like this.

Bear in mind, if your policy was to become true it would have knock on effect on leisure industries and motorcycle/bicycle manufacturers as noone would buy if related injuries were non NHS treatable.

Personally though, sadly I think there will be some kind of ‘personal accountability tier’ perhaps in the future given the continuing struggling funding needs of the NHS.

Redpeach · 27/06/2025 17:42

Lets ban ladders and cars

Iwillclasptheeagain · 27/06/2025 17:12

CrispieCake · 27/06/2025 11:52

Why not tax all these "lifestyle choices" appropriately?
We tax sugary drinks and tobacco, maybe we could start taxing motorcycles, high-performance bikes and adult football clubs to claw back some of the associated costs.

I think tax Netflix and also highly interesting novels, anything that keeps people watching or reading hours past their bedtime. We know what a killer fatigue is, after all.

Justchillinhere · 27/06/2025 13:52

Everyone home, no more hobbies, or living life. Seriously, sitting doing nothing has NO health benefits whatsoever, in fact it would lead to so many health problems. is school out early today?

Ally886 · 27/06/2025 13:39

Lardychops · 27/06/2025 00:40

DH is currently on an NHS orthopaedics ward with around 7/8 other men.
He played 5 aside around 3 weeks ago , got bashed on the thigh and the bruise has spread and become hard and hot and painful, now infected and he needs it operated on due to risk of sepsis.

On the ward are 4 men 60 plus who have been involved in motorcycle accidents with legs in pins and have undergone several operations and been in hospital weeks ( 1 for months) as well as a young lad who was brought in yesterday following a cycling collision with another cyclist with his upper left side shattered. One other man was on a sponsored 3 peak running challenge (with a one man band scenario or such like ) and has shattered his ankle. Looking at an op tomo and a very long recuperation. yesterday a man left who had been in for three months after a skking accident with a broken hip that would not heal properly.

Am I unreasonable in thinking that with the NHS in the state it is at this current time that personal responsibility for lifestyle choices should be more of a consideration for all of us with the tax payer footing the bill for feckless and irresponsible behaviours.
It’s all avoidable surely , making better, healthier choices that do not willingly impact on limited resources.

Sports such as football, skiing, cycling, motorcross as well as mountaineering are risky to one’s health and people need to take personal responsibility.

Am I being unreasonable tax payers?

This is why I have private health cover, so nobody can tell me off for doing things that I enjoy.

I'd rather die at 50 doing something I enjoy than be laid there at 95 thinking "didn't really make the most of that life did I"

CrispieCake · 27/06/2025 13:13

TesChique · 27/06/2025 12:11

Then why can't the child have any NHS treatment without the consent of the parent?

To be clear this is not a genuine suggestion I'm making, but your retort is flawed.

That is not true.

Decisions as to medical treatment are made in the child's best interests. Normally, this accords with the parents' wishes, as most parents will be guided by medical advice, but hospitals can and do seek court orders to override parents' wishes if doctors believe it to be in the child's interests.

Children are neither legally nor medically treated as extensions of their parents. They have separate personhood in their own right. And parents have responsibilities primarily rather than rights - any parental "rights" they do have are given to allow them to meet their responsibilities to their children.

CrispieCake · 27/06/2025 13:08

party4you · 27/06/2025 12:15

Sorry but it’s really obvious that’s what she’s doing.

Blindingly obvious, I agree. Probably bored of all the fat-shaming threads recently.

SunDash · 27/06/2025 12:52

What a ridiculous post...everyone should make for the safety of their sofa then, and avoid physical activity 🤣

limescale · 27/06/2025 12:48

party4you · 27/06/2025 12:15

Sorry but it’s really obvious that’s what she’s doing.

Oh. It wasn't obvious from her OP - she might just be very dim.
So, why post the tongue in cheek OP? To sit back and watch the predictable replies? And she does the same on other threads?
Why?

TankFlyBossW4lk · 27/06/2025 12:26

Fgs, so all those pesky people with physical hobbies, making sure their cardiovascular risk is optimal by exercising.

Bet you don't like the smokers. You'd have a fit of apoplectic rage if you visited a vascular ward.

party4you · 27/06/2025 12:15

Mothership4two · 27/06/2025 06:22

If that is the case it is poorly done. But the fact DH was hurt playing football did give me pause.

OP has made a similar comment on a recent NHS thread

Sorry but it’s really obvious that’s what she’s doing.

TesChique · 27/06/2025 12:11

CrispieCake · 27/06/2025 11:48

But the child is a separate person from the parents and the child did not make a lifestyle choice. And so is entitled to treatment if "lifestyle choices" is the criteria.

Then why can't the child have any NHS treatment without the consent of the parent?

To be clear this is not a genuine suggestion I'm making, but your retort is flawed.

PeriJane · 27/06/2025 12:11

All this suggests is that men need to get better at their hobbies. 😂

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