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Lifestyle Choices impacting on the NHS -Boiling my piss!!!!

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Lardychops · 27/06/2025 00:40

DH is currently on an NHS orthopaedics ward with around 7/8 other men.
He played 5 aside around 3 weeks ago , got bashed on the thigh and the bruise has spread and become hard and hot and painful, now infected and he needs it operated on due to risk of sepsis.

On the ward are 4 men 60 plus who have been involved in motorcycle accidents with legs in pins and have undergone several operations and been in hospital weeks ( 1 for months) as well as a young lad who was brought in yesterday following a cycling collision with another cyclist with his upper left side shattered. One other man was on a sponsored 3 peak running challenge (with a one man band scenario or such like ) and has shattered his ankle. Looking at an op tomo and a very long recuperation. yesterday a man left who had been in for three months after a skking accident with a broken hip that would not heal properly.

Am I unreasonable in thinking that with the NHS in the state it is at this current time that personal responsibility for lifestyle choices should be more of a consideration for all of us with the tax payer footing the bill for feckless and irresponsible behaviours.
It’s all avoidable surely , making better, healthier choices that do not willingly impact on limited resources.

Sports such as football, skiing, cycling, motorcross as well as mountaineering are risky to one’s health and people need to take personal responsibility.

Am I being unreasonable tax payers?

OP posts:
Masmavi · 29/06/2025 00:41

Pot. Kettle. Black.

Livelovebehappy · 28/06/2025 23:27

Fundayout2025 · 28/06/2025 23:05

Actually the people who smoke pay moreintothenhs than they take

I know this is something smokers tend to quote, but the reality is that smoking doesn’t just cost the NHS money, but has an indirect impact on other services. Therefore the overall cost of smoking to the public purse is significantly higher that what the smoker pays in.

SharpBrickCat · 28/06/2025 23:19

@Lardychops
What do you class as a lifestyle choice?
The DELICIOUS irony being your husband made a choice to play football. Why should people pay for his care when he played a game with a known injury rate? Why did he ignore it until he needed surgery? His choice his bill by your rules.
Having kids is a lifestyle choice, so start paying to deliver them privately or use contraception.
See how silly it gets? I’m being purposely facetious if that wasn’t clear OP.

Fundayout2025 · 28/06/2025 23:05

Livelovebehappy · 28/06/2025 19:30

The ones that gave me the rage are the smokers and drinkers. The percentage of people using up NHS resources due to smoking and excessive alcohol must be huge.

Actually the people who smoke pay moreintothenhs than they take

FreezeDriedStrawberries · 28/06/2025 23:05

All equal in my view. All worthy of equal treatment
So why not just say that in the first bloody place then

Fundayout2025 · 28/06/2025 23:04

Lardychops · 27/06/2025 00:40

DH is currently on an NHS orthopaedics ward with around 7/8 other men.
He played 5 aside around 3 weeks ago , got bashed on the thigh and the bruise has spread and become hard and hot and painful, now infected and he needs it operated on due to risk of sepsis.

On the ward are 4 men 60 plus who have been involved in motorcycle accidents with legs in pins and have undergone several operations and been in hospital weeks ( 1 for months) as well as a young lad who was brought in yesterday following a cycling collision with another cyclist with his upper left side shattered. One other man was on a sponsored 3 peak running challenge (with a one man band scenario or such like ) and has shattered his ankle. Looking at an op tomo and a very long recuperation. yesterday a man left who had been in for three months after a skking accident with a broken hip that would not heal properly.

Am I unreasonable in thinking that with the NHS in the state it is at this current time that personal responsibility for lifestyle choices should be more of a consideration for all of us with the tax payer footing the bill for feckless and irresponsible behaviours.
It’s all avoidable surely , making better, healthier choices that do not willingly impact on limited resources.

Sports such as football, skiing, cycling, motorcross as well as mountaineering are risky to one’s health and people need to take personal responsibility.

Am I being unreasonable tax payers?

Ok so you are happy for your son not to be treated. Would've made the queues shorter for my DD who needed treatment for a good deformity that she had no control over

Orangeandpinknails · 28/06/2025 23:03

Oh dear... this could open a right can of worms... okay so... what about smoking, drinking alcohol, drinking pop, eating chocolate, not exercising enough, having a desk job, eating ice cream, sweets, pastries.. swimming, going the gym, list could go on.. see how I've even contradicted myself in there too... its impossible to say what is allowed and what isn't. I understand "drunken" accidents could be avoided and that would free up a fair few places I'm a and e I bet... but you can't go taking exercise and pleasure activities away

FreezeDriedStrawberries · 28/06/2025 23:01

Lardychops · 27/06/2025 00:40

DH is currently on an NHS orthopaedics ward with around 7/8 other men.
He played 5 aside around 3 weeks ago , got bashed on the thigh and the bruise has spread and become hard and hot and painful, now infected and he needs it operated on due to risk of sepsis.

On the ward are 4 men 60 plus who have been involved in motorcycle accidents with legs in pins and have undergone several operations and been in hospital weeks ( 1 for months) as well as a young lad who was brought in yesterday following a cycling collision with another cyclist with his upper left side shattered. One other man was on a sponsored 3 peak running challenge (with a one man band scenario or such like ) and has shattered his ankle. Looking at an op tomo and a very long recuperation. yesterday a man left who had been in for three months after a skking accident with a broken hip that would not heal properly.

Am I unreasonable in thinking that with the NHS in the state it is at this current time that personal responsibility for lifestyle choices should be more of a consideration for all of us with the tax payer footing the bill for feckless and irresponsible behaviours.
It’s all avoidable surely , making better, healthier choices that do not willingly impact on limited resources.

Sports such as football, skiing, cycling, motorcross as well as mountaineering are risky to one’s health and people need to take personal responsibility.

Am I being unreasonable tax payers?

He played 5 a side though. Are you including him in the "lifestyle choices?"
Going by your logic surely he should take more responsibility and not be a burden on the NHS.
YABU

MoonWoman69 · 28/06/2025 22:59

Completely pointless post, your husband is in the same boat, or don't you see the comparison or the irony of your post?!
People in glass houses and all that! Maybe have a bit of a think in future before tapping out useless posts? 🙄

mariasanp · 28/06/2025 22:52

You are incredibly judgemental.

Laura95167 · 28/06/2025 22:22

Are you trying to say treating your DHs leg is a waste because he shouldnt play 5 a side?

Gibstub · 28/06/2025 22:06

Lardychops · 27/06/2025 00:40

DH is currently on an NHS orthopaedics ward with around 7/8 other men.
He played 5 aside around 3 weeks ago , got bashed on the thigh and the bruise has spread and become hard and hot and painful, now infected and he needs it operated on due to risk of sepsis.

On the ward are 4 men 60 plus who have been involved in motorcycle accidents with legs in pins and have undergone several operations and been in hospital weeks ( 1 for months) as well as a young lad who was brought in yesterday following a cycling collision with another cyclist with his upper left side shattered. One other man was on a sponsored 3 peak running challenge (with a one man band scenario or such like ) and has shattered his ankle. Looking at an op tomo and a very long recuperation. yesterday a man left who had been in for three months after a skking accident with a broken hip that would not heal properly.

Am I unreasonable in thinking that with the NHS in the state it is at this current time that personal responsibility for lifestyle choices should be more of a consideration for all of us with the tax payer footing the bill for feckless and irresponsible behaviours.
It’s all avoidable surely , making better, healthier choices that do not willingly impact on limited resources.

Sports such as football, skiing, cycling, motorcross as well as mountaineering are risky to one’s health and people need to take personal responsibility.

Am I being unreasonable tax payers?

Stupid comment. Get a life.

RawBloomers · 28/06/2025 22:03

helphelpimbeingrepressed · 27/06/2025 09:27

If this ever came to pass, expect car insurance costs to massively increase. If everyone injured by a car isn't entitled to NHS care and has to pay for private, the costs to insurers will be astronomical and will be paid by everyone in increased premiums.

If this were adopted there would have to be a side system where if you weren't insured and were liable for an accident, you would have to pay in full even if it meant losing your house, savings and any private pension.

I think most people would prefer the cost to be socialised.

No insurance costs wouldn’t rise. I know it’s not what the thread was supposed to be about but just want to point out that car insurance DOES pay for medical care caused in traffic accidents. The NHS claims the costs back from insurers.

Harmonypus · 28/06/2025 21:45

This has probably already been said but i can't be bothered with reading 13 pages of comments....
Just walking down the street can end with a hospital stay if the state of pavements, roads, potholes, etc, are anything to go by.
Is the op saying that if I "choose" to walk down the street, and end up injured, that's a lifestyle choice and treatment/care shouldn't be available from the NHS? What a load of old tosh!!!

SchoolMum66 · 28/06/2025 21:43

This has to be a joke, surely! The obesity epidemic, smoking and drinking and all the many health problems caused by these lifestyle choices is costing the NHS vast, vast amounts of money and forecast to increase and completely cripple the NHS in the coming decades!
And you're criticising those who are responsible enough to do exercise!!??

plantsnpants · 28/06/2025 21:16

Obesity costs more than this
so does mental health intervention
both of which are prevented by sports

Ladymeade · 28/06/2025 21:14

I own a horse....Riding....... Oh dear....! 😂

AdeptHedgehog · 28/06/2025 20:36

You’re essentially saying that everyone should stay inside, not use any vehicle and not have any hobbies if they want to use the NHS…. Intrigued what things people would be allowed free treatment for in your world!

Lovemeapickledgherkin · 28/06/2025 20:33

FrothyCothy · 27/06/2025 00:49

Are you including your husband in that OP?

Beat me to it 🤭

Anyahyacinth · 28/06/2025 20:30

NHS worker here loads of sports injuries in Fracture Clinic...see the same old fat phobic tropes are wheeled out here too. The research is that underweight is the most fragile health state. If we are going to avoid all illhealth what do we do about people born with illness? Discard them? Some really ugly opinions here. People get sick, they often then get fat. Then the attitudes displayed here make those people feel shut out of exercise and community life. Many many MH medications cause obesity...what would you have these people do? Ugly attitudes cause the very thing they hate. Don't get me started about illness linked to particulate air pollution...heart diseases, type 2 diabetes, obesity. . If it makes you feel better to condemn fat people, because you need a hierarchy of worthiness to have self regard, be prepared to see so many more. You are creating the conditions. Lazy unfounded prejudice

Molko1503 · 28/06/2025 20:29

Ok. Just realised you made a funny. Didn’t get it cause Autism.

Molko1503 · 28/06/2025 20:28

Wow bet your husband loves living with you with that attitude! I’m assuming you’re including him in the ‘lifestyle choices’ .. bet you’ve given him loads of sympathy 🙄 yeah let’s just all wrap ourselves in bubble wrap to protect the NHS.

Barnbrack · 28/06/2025 20:09

Lardychops · 28/06/2025 00:30

Yes I tried , but I guess missed the mark lol x
Can’t blame a girl (cynical burned out middle aged woman) for trying.

I work with the most vulnerable in my community ( teacher, but now a social worker, also - I remain living in the community I work with)
Many of my lovely but vulnerable families - smoke, drink and even (gasp) use drugs.
A high proportion are large and some very large.

Sick to the back teeth of the ‘undeserving’/ ‘unworthy’ vilification narrative/politics/downright spitefulness around ‘people like them’ accessing health care as a basic right.

The same as anyone engaging in risky or adrenaline fuelled pursuits, high impact sports, or choosing to starve themselves, or self harming, or getting into a fight, neglecting self care to the point of harm and refusing help etc etc

All equal in my view. All worthy of equal treatment

I'm so glad I was wrong

Barnbrack · 28/06/2025 19:50

Why was your husband's sports injury any less his fault than these other men's sporting injuries?

Wildefish · 28/06/2025 19:49

Lardychops · 27/06/2025 00:40

DH is currently on an NHS orthopaedics ward with around 7/8 other men.
He played 5 aside around 3 weeks ago , got bashed on the thigh and the bruise has spread and become hard and hot and painful, now infected and he needs it operated on due to risk of sepsis.

On the ward are 4 men 60 plus who have been involved in motorcycle accidents with legs in pins and have undergone several operations and been in hospital weeks ( 1 for months) as well as a young lad who was brought in yesterday following a cycling collision with another cyclist with his upper left side shattered. One other man was on a sponsored 3 peak running challenge (with a one man band scenario or such like ) and has shattered his ankle. Looking at an op tomo and a very long recuperation. yesterday a man left who had been in for three months after a skking accident with a broken hip that would not heal properly.

Am I unreasonable in thinking that with the NHS in the state it is at this current time that personal responsibility for lifestyle choices should be more of a consideration for all of us with the tax payer footing the bill for feckless and irresponsible behaviours.
It’s all avoidable surely , making better, healthier choices that do not willingly impact on limited resources.

Sports such as football, skiing, cycling, motorcross as well as mountaineering are risky to one’s health and people need to take personal responsibility.

Am I being unreasonable tax payers?

Is this for real. Your husband was hurt playing sport and the others are sports too. If we can’t do sport what should we do. I am currently recovering from an accident on my Vespa. Spent two days in hospital, first time ever except childbirth I’m 66. Am I a burden to the NHS or have I paid my dues in taxes.