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Leaving an inheritance to a spending addict; will this work?

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Newblackdress · 26/06/2025 17:19

It's a 45 year old DD who has been overspending all her life, running up huge debts and constantly appealing to family members to bail her out. She has a good job and earns well but is absolutely irresponsible and not always honest.

Her dad doesn't want to leave her out of his will or to leave more than half his estate to DD's brother in case of bad feeling between them. But doesn't want the money he leaves DD to be instantly disposed of leaving DD middle aged and with nothing but debts.
He'd like to leave a small lump sum to DD without strings and allocate the rest of her share to clear some or all of her debts. The deal would be that DD would present the paperwork to the executors with authorisation to pay them off, and the executors would do so until the money ran out.
If the debts amounted to less than the legacy (unlikely), the remaining money would go to charity. This is to avoid DD claiming that all her debts were paid off in order to get the remaining money (she has form for similar deceptions). And if she isn't willing to make the small effort it would take to present the paperwork in say 3 months, the whole amount would go to charity.
Has anyone tried anything like this?
And can anyone spot a major flaw?

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LetGoLetThem1234 · 28/06/2025 17:48

I think that the trust fund with a monthly allowance is not a bad idea.

In fact I can think of many situations where this would be a beneficial approach to adopt.

Courgettezuchinni · 28/06/2025 16:20

We had a VLC SIL in our family too like this. High level demanding career, spent her money like water and never saved. I think spending gave her an endorphin high. Blew through an inheritance of 250k in a year (nothing much to show for it) then starts texting DH asking for his (much smaller) portion of the money when the taxman caught up with her because of her job.
Her DPs were well aware of her financial track record as they had bailed her out many times over the years. They did consider putting a trust in place in their wills but thought her 2 siblings (executors) would keep an eye on her finances and ensure she didn't blow it all. I think they ignored the link between stress and her need to spend. DH and BIL couldnt "control" or regulate her access to the cash because there was no trust and so she blew it anyway. She sadly died 18 months later but we were so relieved we weren't involved as executors in detangling and resolving the financial mess we heard she left behind.

Newblackdress · 28/06/2025 15:06

The more I read and respond to these helpful questions and suggestions the closer I get to thinking it’s hopeless unless there’s some big change in DD that hasn’t started yet. Perhaps losing her parents might trigger a change of attitude but otherwise it’s probably hopeless and whatever is done about an inheritance won’t help her.

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FancyBiscuitsLevel · 27/06/2025 17:45

seeing your update OP, then actually if you go for the 25%/75% split in favour of her brother, with a note saying this is to balance out her “getting inheritance in advance” when she was given money to cover her debts and living costs, then don’t have her brother give her anything else. He has to hold the line he gives her nothing so she’s not always asking. Really she needs to completely fail to get help. If giving her a rent free property just meant she felt entitled to have all her living costs covered by her dad, then don’t have her brother opening the door at all to him being the replacement of dad who bails her out.

Giving her a lump sum that’s just the 25%, accepting she might spend it, then also accept that help from parents when they were alive hasn’t fixed the problem so throwing more money at it won’t either. At some point she’ll have to chose to change, or be forced to. Helping keep the plates spinning is doing her no favours.

Newblackdress · 27/06/2025 16:45

FancyBiscuitsLevel · 27/06/2025 15:14

Another option - how much money are we talking about, enough to buy a flat ? If so, I’d go with that, a flat that belongs to the brother, but the sister can either live in it or have any profit from rental (setting it up with an amount held back for renovations /repairs). She gets either free roof over her head or an income but she’ll not own the property so it can’t be repossessed/sold to cover debts.

Something like that would be great if it worked but in the past the parents provided rent free accommodation and she still demanded money all the time for other things and constantly complained about the flat. It would be a big ask for her brother to take that on.

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Newblackdress · 27/06/2025 16:42

Pedallleur · 27/06/2025 15:25

knew someone who as an alcoholic and his parents left him a large sum of money that was paid out to him on a regular basis. no point in giving a large amount as they knew what would happen

I guess that would be a trust arrangement too. Thanks

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Newblackdress · 27/06/2025 16:40

FancyBiscuitsLevel · 27/06/2025 15:11

OP - you said her dad didn’t want to give unequal shares, but if they’ve bailed her out in the past, could more be given to the son to balance that out? Say, she’s gets 25% and he gets 75% with a note to say this was to allow for money already given to dd during her parents’ lifetimes to cover previous debts.

If you set up a complex (and possibly expensive) arrangement that forces her to clear her debts, as others have said she’ll just run up more. So a small % to her in cash, she’ll either pay down her debts or spend it but she’ll be in the same position in 5 years time. The rest to the brother, with a separate letter telling him why this has been done and if he feels he wants to make it closer to 50/50 he should instead directly pay down some of her debts, not just give her a lump sum.

Ooh that could work provided DS was willing to take it on. Thanks.

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pikkumyy77 · 27/06/2025 15:27

saltinesandcoffeecups · 26/06/2025 17:40

As others have mentioned it sounds like you’re after a trust.

Now I’m going to be very blunt here. Before spending money and effort to set this up, think to yourself is it worth it.

At the end of the day let’s imagine you set up a trust for £50,000 with stipulations that it is used to pay debts. DD dutifully pays off the debts. Now what… she likely just runs up new debt. she’s no better off and you’ve given her the means to go out and spend.

I think you/DH need to figure out if you want to will her the money at all. As you said DH doesn’t want to give her less than her sibling. My advice is to just give it to her and not think about what she does with it. Sad to say you/DH is not going to be around to care.

This is pretty good advice.

Pedallleur · 27/06/2025 15:25

knew someone who as an alcoholic and his parents left him a large sum of money that was paid out to him on a regular basis. no point in giving a large amount as they knew what would happen

FancyBiscuitsLevel · 27/06/2025 15:14

Another option - how much money are we talking about, enough to buy a flat ? If so, I’d go with that, a flat that belongs to the brother, but the sister can either live in it or have any profit from rental (setting it up with an amount held back for renovations /repairs). She gets either free roof over her head or an income but she’ll not own the property so it can’t be repossessed/sold to cover debts.

FancyBiscuitsLevel · 27/06/2025 15:11

OP - you said her dad didn’t want to give unequal shares, but if they’ve bailed her out in the past, could more be given to the son to balance that out? Say, she’s gets 25% and he gets 75% with a note to say this was to allow for money already given to dd during her parents’ lifetimes to cover previous debts.

If you set up a complex (and possibly expensive) arrangement that forces her to clear her debts, as others have said she’ll just run up more. So a small % to her in cash, she’ll either pay down her debts or spend it but she’ll be in the same position in 5 years time. The rest to the brother, with a separate letter telling him why this has been done and if he feels he wants to make it closer to 50/50 he should instead directly pay down some of her debts, not just give her a lump sum.

Newblackdress · 27/06/2025 13:54

EggnogNoggin · 27/06/2025 13:50

But it's blown either way whether you leave it to her to spend in the future or to pay back a bank I.e. she still has the holiday/new jeans/crap.

Either way you're facilitating her.

Personally I wouldn't want my money going to a bank and I'd behaving an upfront conversation about how her money management means no inheritance. It doesn't mean you don't love her, just that you don't value money in the same way.

As for eat you do with her share..? Charity or brother. Does she even have a relationship with her sibling?

Nothing feels right really. Don’t want to disinherit her. Just want to make a last ditch attempt to make the money actually benefit her.
Whatever happens she will receive around 30K to do what she likes with. Paying off the bank would be the remainder of her share.

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EggnogNoggin · 27/06/2025 13:50

Newblackdress · 26/06/2025 17:45

It's not really to stop her getting her hands on it. He wants her to have the money.
It's to stop her either blowing the whole lot in a few months, or pretending she has paid back debts that she hasn't paid off in order to get some ready cash.

But it's blown either way whether you leave it to her to spend in the future or to pay back a bank I.e. she still has the holiday/new jeans/crap.

Either way you're facilitating her.

Personally I wouldn't want my money going to a bank and I'd behaving an upfront conversation about how her money management means no inheritance. It doesn't mean you don't love her, just that you don't value money in the same way.

As for eat you do with her share..? Charity or brother. Does she even have a relationship with her sibling?

Newblackdress · 27/06/2025 13:44

TizerorFizz · 26/06/2025 23:25

@Newblackdress It’s control. Whether you like it or not, he doesn’t approve and he wants to control from the grave. He’s now apparently favoured DS already. Probably spending DD knows where she stands in the family!

You are so wrong. It’s not a question of disapproving but of being frantic with worry that his beloved daughter will end up destitute.

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BasiliskStare · 27/06/2025 11:15

FWIW @Newblackdress this does seem like a situation where a trust with a solicitor as a trustee might work for her share of the inheritance. Yes it will cost money but possibly less than she would spend given free access. And in time it will be for her DB to stand up for himself. I don't see this as controlling I see it as trying to do the best for her. I think better than leaving her nothing

TizerorFizz · 27/06/2025 09:03

@WeCouldDoBetter What does it matter if you are dead? Is this woman actually loved? It sounds like she’s resented and a total annoyance. When you are dead, let it go!

WeCouldDoBetter · 27/06/2025 00:02

saltinesandcoffeecups · 26/06/2025 17:40

As others have mentioned it sounds like you’re after a trust.

Now I’m going to be very blunt here. Before spending money and effort to set this up, think to yourself is it worth it.

At the end of the day let’s imagine you set up a trust for £50,000 with stipulations that it is used to pay debts. DD dutifully pays off the debts. Now what… she likely just runs up new debt. she’s no better off and you’ve given her the means to go out and spend.

I think you/DH need to figure out if you want to will her the money at all. As you said DH doesn’t want to give her less than her sibling. My advice is to just give it to her and not think about what she does with it. Sad to say you/DH is not going to be around to care.

Agree. I have a relatively like this, which keeps being bailed out only to run up more debt again. It's an endless cycle and such a huge waste of money.

TizerorFizz · 26/06/2025 23:25

@Newblackdress It’s control. Whether you like it or not, he doesn’t approve and he wants to control from the grave. He’s now apparently favoured DS already. Probably spending DD knows where she stands in the family!

Horseebooks · 26/06/2025 23:18

How much money are we talking?

if it’s enough to be meaningful over a long time a trust is the way, or a pension.

However if you do this you should think about treating both children the same and that might be hard for her brother.

If not a significant sum it’s really the same whether you give it to her (she’ll spend it but not go into further debt) or pay the debts (they’ll be paid but she’ll be creating new ones).

I have an acquaintance like this who has gone through serious money, thinking it would never run out, until it did. It’s not pretty and I understand the worry as it’s turning out very very sadly for the person I know. So, if you can try to find a way for her to have some kind of steady income in later life I would. Maybe she’ll learn to budget, or not, but at least there’s a chance.

TunnocksOrDeath · 26/06/2025 20:55

Would her "share" be enough for a small flat which could be owned by a trust managed by her brother & solicitor initially, then just the solicitor ? She could be given an interest for life in the property, but then on her death it is sold with proceeds given to a nominated charity? As she doesn't own it, she can't borrow against it, and if she doesn't want to live in she can let it and have a modest steady income from the rent.

Hotflushesandchilblains · 26/06/2025 20:46

Many people set up Trusts - its not nice to be on the other end of, but may be a good idea here.

Newblackdress · 26/06/2025 20:45

Motomum23 · 26/06/2025 20:38

Could your dh insist it goes into her pension fund instead so she has something to live on when she's older? That way she's likely to have xx amount per month.

That's a great idea if it is possible.

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BeeCucumber · 26/06/2025 20:42

Give the money to charity - or spend it all. There will be no money to fight over.

Motomum23 · 26/06/2025 20:38

Could your dh insist it goes into her pension fund instead so she has something to live on when she's older? That way she's likely to have xx amount per month.

verycloakanddaggers · 26/06/2025 20:33

What's being proposed feels unhealthy.

She'll be bereaved and be sent a 'message'. That's potentially very damaging.

I think your DH could use some emotional support to deal with his feelings about this in a better way. Her failure to care for herself is terribly sad but maybe not trying to control it would give her space to take control herself.

Good luck.