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WYB miffed? Dd in hospital and dh fucked off to Glastonbury?

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Hopetheportaloosareminging · 26/06/2025 15:58

Just that really.

Long story short, dd 12 has been in and out of hospital the last couple of weeks having to have her obs done as a result of an ED that has really accelerated in the last few weeks. It has been extremely stressful and is obviously upsetting. She’s under camhs and they took her readings last week resulting in me having to take her to A&E. She then had a ward review yesterday and her readings were so low they kept her in overnight. I stayed with her.

DH has been mentioning going to Glastonbury for a while to meet up with an old friend who goes every year. They haven’t been able to get tickets but h seems convinced they’ll be able to bribe someone his friend knows and get in 🙄 apparently “loads of people do it”.

I left the house for her appointment yesterday at 12pm (was supposed to just be a routine appointment) and didn’t manage to ring him until about 7pm as there was no signal in the hospital. I thought he’d have been trying to ring me but no, nothing. He has a stressful job (wfh) and I don’t honestly think he’d even given it a thought. He can be very one track minded.

He has form for being uncaring and unempathetic (I suspect he’s autistic - he has a lot of traits) but we nearly split last year after a build up of issues and he’s been like a changed man since. A lot more caring and considerate. I am starting to notice a few of the old behaviours creeping in though.

Came home last night to get some overnight stuff and after asking how it went/how dd was etc he was like “oh, I’m not going to be able to go to the festival now am I?” I said “it’s up to you, I’m not going to stop you - yes go if you want!” I said (in a jokey way) “it’s on your conscience” But quite honestly I thought he wouldn’t go.
Had a horrible night in the hospital. I’ve had one text from him this morning which I responded to telling him they were still concerned about her blood pressure/heart rate being low and low blood sugar etc and wasn’t sure whether they were keeping her in or not. The dr has now let us come home (he doesnt know this yet - I tried to ring him as we were leaving but he didn’t answer) but we have a nurse coming out at the weekend to check on her and do more obs, so it’s pretty serious. They said if she doesn’t improve over the next couple of weeks it will be another hospital admittance and complete bed rest with a feeding plan which is usually for two weeks.

Anyway, got home and he’s not here - he’s fucked off to Glastonbury!! No message either since the one this morning. No note, he’s just gone and when I asked ds he said “I think he’s gone to Glastonbury” (ds is a typical teenage boy hooked up to his Xbox and probably wouldn’t notice if the house was burning down)!

Im not angry I just think he’s a selfish arse and I’m a bit incredulous really. Can you imagine one of us mum’s doing that? It’s not even like he has a ticket and would lose the money.

Oh, and it’s our anniversary this weekend which I’m guessing he’ll be missing too.

He isn’t a sociable or “going out with the lads” type of person usually - this is a one off to be fair to him. He is a good dad generally, just often seems to be missing some kind of empathy gene. I know he’ll be thinking “it makes no difference whether I’m there or not”. But what if they’d kept her in and I needed him to bring stuff/come and take over for a bit? It’s selfish and unthinking imo.

Anyway, I think I just wanted to get opinions really. Feeling a bit upset and like “no, he hasn’t changed really has he?”

But maybe IABU and it’s not a big deal bc she’s not in imminent danger?

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SunD0wn · 28/06/2025 08:33

IButtleSir · 28/06/2025 08:30

He probs sacrifices a lot, provides a lot and is allowed to have a break for a few days.

Did you somehow miss the part where his 12 year old daughter is in hospital?

She was in overnight!

LemondrizzleShark · 28/06/2025 08:31

SunD0wn · 28/06/2025 08:29

A dad working every day in a stressful job and providing for his family isn’t useless. I’m sure he’d love a less stressful job. Maybe that is something that could be looked at and discussed.

But if he has a less stressful job, what excuse would he have to refuse to pick his wife up from hospital after major surgery?

IButtleSir · 28/06/2025 08:30

PatriarchyRuinedMyPesto · 27/06/2025 23:17

That’s nothing to be proud of. Some people are actually fun you know. Why the casual ageism and sexism? Plenty of people in their 30s and 40s and beyond go to Glastonbury and other festivals such as Download, not to mention gigs. Are we all supposed to turn into a hermit once reaching an arbitrary age?

The lack of respect for the Dad is very out of order. He probs sacrifices a lot, provides a lot and is allowed to have a break for a few days. Tickets are notoriously hard to get too. As for the DC not being impressed, they should be more grateful for the sacrifices that their father has no doubt made for them over the years, this attitude shows everything that’s wrong with modern parenting

He probs sacrifices a lot, provides a lot and is allowed to have a break for a few days.

Did you somehow miss the part where his 12 year old daughter is in hospital?

thepariscrimefiles · 28/06/2025 08:30

PatriarchyRuinedMyPesto · 28/06/2025 08:20

The bad language is often used to increase the melodramatic tone I find

the narrative is that the man/husband/Dads needs are not important and must always come below the women’s and kids. In reality relationships and families are more nuanced than that. It’s a ridiculous manifestation of modern parenting and sexism. It’s not so long ago that the parents would go to the pub every Saturday and the kids would just be there. None of this their priorities coming above the parents. There would be no question about it the dad wanted to go to the pub, or a football match or a gig. They work hard to provide for their families all week so why not

Also if the shoe was on the other foot the man would get called controlling and probably even abusive for trying to stop the wife from going on a trip. You can hear the hysterical howls now of strangers trying to convince her to leave an otherwise excellent relationship of many years or even decades for something like that

OP's DH is a man who always puts his needs first. His children recognise that he is a selfish and crappy father. You can continue your unqualified support of his behaviour, but most people have recognised that he isn't someone who is burnt out due to caring for his daughter so genuinely needs a break, but someone who leaves the caring up to his wife and swans off for the weekend without a care in the world.

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 28/06/2025 08:29

SunD0wn · 28/06/2025 08:17

My experience is relevant. You can judge all you like but it’s still ridiculous and pretty ignorant as you clearly have zero experience of living with a child who has a long term illness.

Thousands of parents endure multiple long stay hospital stays. They do not have the other parent on permanent standby. Most of us have jobs we’re desperately trying to cling on to for a start.

I’m not judging someone for going to work.

I’m judging someone for fucking off to a festival for four days.

Also,did you miss the post by an ED nurse who expressed concern about the impact this would have on the daughter and her recovery?

I’m assuming she has enough experience for you to have an opinion?

SunD0wn · 28/06/2025 08:29

Alonebutmarried · 28/06/2025 08:26

What sacrifices? He’d still be working, family or not.

A SAHM makes far more ‘sacrifices’ than a useless dad who turns up to work each day.

A dad working every day in a stressful job and providing for his family isn’t useless. I’m sure he’d love a less stressful job. Maybe that is something that could be looked at and discussed.

diddl · 28/06/2025 08:28

He says he doesn’t have enough room in his brain bc he’s so busy and important.

Sorry Op but I did actually howl at that.

What a ridiculous embarrassment he sounds.

I mean if he was of any use, actually cared, had been trying to go for years & was keeping in touch & could get back pretty easily it might have been a different story...

SunD0wn · 28/06/2025 08:27

SomethingInnocuousForNow · 28/06/2025 08:23

I agree that there is a world of difference between the scenario that happened and if the husband had been pulling his weight the entire time, said to OP 'look, I am completely burned out, I have the Glastonbury ticket, I would really like to go for 1 or 2 nights' and then keep in touch a reasonable amount.

I would have had some sympathy for him if he'd acted in any way like a normal dad because with eating disorders they can last for decades in and out of hospital. But he didn't act like a normal dad and it's quite clear he literally doesn't care. He may or or may not be autistic but (and I barely ever say this) I think he's possible psychopathic. I have a relative who I believe is the only psychopathic person I know personally and he acted in almost the exact same way as OP's husband in very similar circumstances.

🤣arm chair psychopath diagnoses now!!!

Alonebutmarried · 28/06/2025 08:26

Doubledenim305 · 28/06/2025 08:25

If he's the breadwinner then he is making sacrifices for his family.

What sacrifices? He’d still be working, family or not.

A SAHM makes far more ‘sacrifices’ than a useless dad who turns up to work each day.

Hibernatingtilspring · 28/06/2025 08:26

Nice to see the trad wife fanclub joining the thread

SunD0wn · 28/06/2025 08:26

thepariscrimefiles · 28/06/2025 08:23

None of this has been hard on OP's DH as he hasn't really been involved. It has all been on OP. She is the one that needs a break, not him, but she obviously wouldn't dream of going and enjoying herself for the weekend, not even checking on how her DD is doing.

I genuinely don't understand how anyone could take the side of OP's selfish and immature DH.

Because it’s a MN thread and we don’t know both sides and it has been stated that he has a stressful job. Having tried to manage a job and an ill child I can say it’s crucial to have down town. Maybe the op doesn’t work or has a less stressful job- who knows! It’s a forum not CAMHs and professionals working with the family are the ones best placed to support them not frothing MN baying for male blood.

Doubledenim305 · 28/06/2025 08:25

thepariscrimefiles · 28/06/2025 08:18

OP's DH sound like as much fun as a bout of diarrhoea. Your continued cheerleading for him, even though OP has made it very clear that he makes no sacrifices for his family, who all correctly think that he is a fucking knob, is ridiculous and tone deaf.

Hopefully, OP will go through with splitting from him this time and his children will vote with their feet and not bother with him. He will then be another middle-aged divorced man lamenting that his wife has turned his kids against him as they don't want to see him.

If he's the breadwinner then he is making sacrifices for his family.

SomethingInnocuousForNow · 28/06/2025 08:23

3sthemagicnumber · 28/06/2025 08:03

@SunD0wn I hope your daughter continues to recover. I wanted to make a comment in support of some of what you've said - I think it's easy to say 'I would never... I could never...' when you haven't been there. I also have some experience of autism/anorexia within the family. Our experience was some years ago, and our family member did not survive the illness. She was in hopsital/treatment wards for almost a decade. And in that time, although of course it was always present, life went on to an extent it is hard to believe when you haven't lived it. It has to.
I think where I might disagree with you is that from what the OP has written here it sounds like what life going on might look like for her is separating from her husband, with this being the final straw. It might not. Only she can know how much this is another nail in the coffin with an incapable and selfish man she doesn't want to be with, and how much it is a poor response to a stressful situation. Dealing with a situation like their family is facing does put strain on people and ideally you would give each other grace and space. But from a position of both doing so, and pulling together, and recognising that neither of you is your best self in this situation but you both care and you are both trying. In that situation, I absolutely agree with you that facing it together is important (we had a lot of family therapy too). But that doesn't sound like the situation as the OP has described it to me.

OP, I wish all the best for your daughter, and for you.

I agree that there is a world of difference between the scenario that happened and if the husband had been pulling his weight the entire time, said to OP 'look, I am completely burned out, I have the Glastonbury ticket, I would really like to go for 1 or 2 nights' and then keep in touch a reasonable amount.

I would have had some sympathy for him if he'd acted in any way like a normal dad because with eating disorders they can last for decades in and out of hospital. But he didn't act like a normal dad and it's quite clear he literally doesn't care. He may or or may not be autistic but (and I barely ever say this) I think he's possible psychopathic. I have a relative who I believe is the only psychopathic person I know personally and he acted in almost the exact same way as OP's husband in very similar circumstances.

thepariscrimefiles · 28/06/2025 08:23

SunD0wn · 28/06/2025 06:16

Hi Op I have an autistic daughter who has had serious anorexia for years involving frequent very long re feeding, tube feeding and monitoring stays in hospital. As you know Anorexia is horrific for both parents and parents cope in different ways. You have to grab the joy when it appears. It is also important for sufferers to see life goes on for those around them and what they’re missing.This was advice we had from several professionals which has helped hugely with recovery.

I’m not sure what you expected from your husband.I wouldn’t have expected my husband to hover at home whilst my daughter was in hospital or vice versa if he was in with her and I was at home. It is a marathon and hugely tough on marriages. Although it’s worrying she wasn’t in for long and her being allowed to go home is a big positive. I hope things are continuing to go well at home.

Yes yes re wording as regards autism. You weren’t that clear and those with autism take things very literally. Also they can bolt and not know how to handle difficult emotions. Yes not great in some situations but they’ll be amazing in other situations and have many positive characteristics too.

I presume CAMHs know that there is autism in the family and I’d mention it if not as it can impact treatment in patients.

None of this has been hard on OP's DH as he hasn't really been involved. It has all been on OP. She is the one that needs a break, not him, but she obviously wouldn't dream of going and enjoying herself for the weekend, not even checking on how her DD is doing.

I genuinely don't understand how anyone could take the side of OP's selfish and immature DH.

Hibernatingtilspring · 28/06/2025 08:23

@SunD0wn what you have described is two parents working as a team, sharing the load and most importantly, both communicating.
What the OP has described is nothing like that - not just with this weekend, but years of her husband leaving her to be the default parent. The situations aren't comparable. She has already shared about how she has brought this up with him in the past and that he has continued to avoid responsibility and ignore anyone else's feelings. The older children are already involved in it by living with and seeing their dad behaving like a teen with no responsibilities, hence why they've told her they're not surprised.

I understand what you're saying about not dragging them into it, but given they're already very aware, ignoring it and pretending his behaviour is fine isn't ok. Acknowledging that with them is fair enough, though obviously not going further than that.

Doubledenim305 · 28/06/2025 08:22

Backtoreality1 · 26/06/2025 16:10

So you told him to go - and he went. Sorry but what did you expect?

Exactly. He's a guy number 1 and autistic to boot, so he's going to hear 'you can go ' and think he can go. You can't tell someone it's ok and just hope they will know what you really think because it's obvious to you.

Also this sounds like a long term issue for your DD so him going away for a few days isn't the end of the world.

Just make sure you book in some R&R time for yourself whilst he carries the load a bit when he returns.

I really don't think you should get your knickers in a twist about this one. Just be clear about what you think and what you need from him before, rather than after the event.

PatriarchyRuinedMyPesto · 28/06/2025 08:20

thepariscrimefiles · 28/06/2025 07:43

For all its faults, Mumsnet is absolutely fine with the strong language that is often needed to describe/express the sheer awfulness of some of the behaviour of the immature, selfish and often downright abusive husbands/partners/fathers on here.

The poster you are criticising is supporting OP. You are definitely not.

The bad language is often used to increase the melodramatic tone I find

the narrative is that the man/husband/Dads needs are not important and must always come below the women’s and kids. In reality relationships and families are more nuanced than that. It’s a ridiculous manifestation of modern parenting and sexism. It’s not so long ago that the parents would go to the pub every Saturday and the kids would just be there. None of this their priorities coming above the parents. There would be no question about it the dad wanted to go to the pub, or a football match or a gig. They work hard to provide for their families all week so why not

Also if the shoe was on the other foot the man would get called controlling and probably even abusive for trying to stop the wife from going on a trip. You can hear the hysterical howls now of strangers trying to convince her to leave an otherwise excellent relationship of many years or even decades for something like that

thepariscrimefiles · 28/06/2025 08:18

PatriarchyRuinedMyPesto · 27/06/2025 23:17

That’s nothing to be proud of. Some people are actually fun you know. Why the casual ageism and sexism? Plenty of people in their 30s and 40s and beyond go to Glastonbury and other festivals such as Download, not to mention gigs. Are we all supposed to turn into a hermit once reaching an arbitrary age?

The lack of respect for the Dad is very out of order. He probs sacrifices a lot, provides a lot and is allowed to have a break for a few days. Tickets are notoriously hard to get too. As for the DC not being impressed, they should be more grateful for the sacrifices that their father has no doubt made for them over the years, this attitude shows everything that’s wrong with modern parenting

OP's DH sound like as much fun as a bout of diarrhoea. Your continued cheerleading for him, even though OP has made it very clear that he makes no sacrifices for his family, who all correctly think that he is a fucking knob, is ridiculous and tone deaf.

Hopefully, OP will go through with splitting from him this time and his children will vote with their feet and not bother with him. He will then be another middle-aged divorced man lamenting that his wife has turned his kids against him as they don't want to see him.

SunD0wn · 28/06/2025 08:17

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 28/06/2025 08:09

The thread is about a woman who is struggling to parent a child in hospital alone while her husband fucks off to a festival without so much as a “how is she?” Text.

I can judge. If you don’t want your situation to be brought into the conversation, don’t share it in support of his appalling behaviour.

My experience is relevant. You can judge all you like but it’s still ridiculous and pretty ignorant as you clearly have zero experience of living with a child who has a long term illness.

Thousands of parents endure multiple long stay hospital stays. They do not have the other parent on permanent standby. Most of us have jobs we’re desperately trying to cling on to for a start.

SunD0wn · 28/06/2025 08:13

3sthemagicnumber · 28/06/2025 08:03

@SunD0wn I hope your daughter continues to recover. I wanted to make a comment in support of some of what you've said - I think it's easy to say 'I would never... I could never...' when you haven't been there. I also have some experience of autism/anorexia within the family. Our experience was some years ago, and our family member did not survive the illness. She was in hopsital/treatment wards for almost a decade. And in that time, although of course it was always present, life went on to an extent it is hard to believe when you haven't lived it. It has to.
I think where I might disagree with you is that from what the OP has written here it sounds like what life going on might look like for her is separating from her husband, with this being the final straw. It might not. Only she can know how much this is another nail in the coffin with an incapable and selfish man she doesn't want to be with, and how much it is a poor response to a stressful situation. Dealing with a situation like their family is facing does put strain on people and ideally you would give each other grace and space. But from a position of both doing so, and pulling together, and recognising that neither of you is your best self in this situation but you both care and you are both trying. In that situation, I absolutely agree with you that facing it together is important (we had a lot of family therapy too). But that doesn't sound like the situation as the OP has described it to me.

OP, I wish all the best for your daughter, and for you.

Thank you I appreciate that and agree with a lot of what you say.

I think threads like this are hugely dangerous though, particularly with something like anorexia. EDs swoop in and gain strength with division. Now is not the time to be following advice from frothing MNers baying for blood.

Op I really think you need to go back to CAMHs and ask for support or raise this in family therapy if you’ve started it. Whether your marriage is resolvable or not now really isn’t the time to be battling and dragging children into it. Getting through the next few months with some kid of unity and calm is crucial- as is taking time for yourselves. When he returns discuss you getting some time to yourself. If your dh can’t step up then get your mum too. Try to avoid big rows and confrontation.

The marriage difficulties can wait, giving what your daughter needs now can’t.

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 28/06/2025 08:09

SunD0wn · 28/06/2025 08:05

Ok so assuming that I and other parents in my position care a jot what you would do you really have no right to lecture how any parent of an ill child manages their condition and the horrific journey that goes with it.

We followed professional advice, it proved to be exactly right and what you choose to brag about is not professional advice.

The thread is about a woman who is struggling to parent a child in hospital alone while her husband fucks off to a festival without so much as a “how is she?” Text.

I can judge. If you don’t want your situation to be brought into the conversation, don’t share it in support of his appalling behaviour.

gemgemgemgemgem · 28/06/2025 08:07

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thepariscrimefiles · 28/06/2025 08:07

GiveDogBone · 27/06/2025 21:30

I didn’t say there was. I was just observing what type of person the individual is. We’ve all seen them… pick up from the school gates only breaking their gaze from their phone to swear at their poor children.

Swearing isn't an indication of social class. The upper and middle classes use bad language as much as what you would call 'the lower classes'. You just come across as a petit bourgeois snob.

SunD0wn · 28/06/2025 08:05

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 28/06/2025 08:00

There is absolutely no way, on this earth, that anything or anyone could convince me to go a four day festival while my child was in hospital.
That is an absolute.

Ok so assuming that I and other parents in my position care a jot what you would do you really have no right to lecture how any parent of an ill child manages their condition and the horrific journey that goes with it.

We followed professional advice, it proved to be exactly right and what you choose to brag about is not professional advice.

3sthemagicnumber · 28/06/2025 08:03

@SunD0wn I hope your daughter continues to recover. I wanted to make a comment in support of some of what you've said - I think it's easy to say 'I would never... I could never...' when you haven't been there. I also have some experience of autism/anorexia within the family. Our experience was some years ago, and our family member did not survive the illness. She was in hopsital/treatment wards for almost a decade. And in that time, although of course it was always present, life went on to an extent it is hard to believe when you haven't lived it. It has to.
I think where I might disagree with you is that from what the OP has written here it sounds like what life going on might look like for her is separating from her husband, with this being the final straw. It might not. Only she can know how much this is another nail in the coffin with an incapable and selfish man she doesn't want to be with, and how much it is a poor response to a stressful situation. Dealing with a situation like their family is facing does put strain on people and ideally you would give each other grace and space. But from a position of both doing so, and pulling together, and recognising that neither of you is your best self in this situation but you both care and you are both trying. In that situation, I absolutely agree with you that facing it together is important (we had a lot of family therapy too). But that doesn't sound like the situation as the OP has described it to me.

OP, I wish all the best for your daughter, and for you.