To refuse to provide bank statement to my work to prove I was in the office

Isnt there a record of you signing for a temporary pass. Surely they not given out without you signing for it or someone signing to say they gave it to you.

I think they’re being ridiculous for wanting you to prove you were in the office that day.

I also think it’s ridiculous that you had a temporary pass and they apparently have no system to check this.

But I also think you’re being ridiculous to not want to send your bank statement and talking about big brother.

You admitted you already screenshotted the transaction and so you obviously use online banking and so obviously aren’t that worried about what you’re pretending to be worried about.

You can easily screenshot your account showing the transaction and your details and then blank the rest out or just search for that transaction.

I don’t think you actually went in.

But not respecting anyone of the opposing views…

The humble pie, will you be buying that? If not, will I need to prove I’ve bought it? Any ideas how I do that?

PS I predict, you’ll be back tomorrow saying the whole thing has been dropped and they’ve apologised and the systems have been changed 🙄.

Honestly this is so fucking daft.

The business has a system for monitoring attendance.

The OP's manager does not have discretion to take her word for it.

The OP has, in essence, provided a bank statement with the "proof" transaction included and all other transactions and her name redacted.

Obviously, in order for a record of a transaction to prove OP's presence, the record needs to be in the OP's name - she can still redact everything else irrelevant. She's basically still asking her manager to take her word, which they dont have discretion to do.

She is drawing an extremely arbitrary line in the sand and likely making herself look a bit suspect in the process, and for no obvious point of principle or benefit.

This is crazy, such intrusive behaviour from the employer, showing absolutely no trust. Their own systems are not fit for purpose.

The comments and on here are because MN hates WFH, and don’t seem to be based in the real world

Ridiculousness aside, it’s shown a flaw in the security in that they don’t keep track of a temporary pass if a pass is needed for access (and records, which is where this system has fallen down)

Because the onus is on her to prove she fulfilled her contract, not on them to prove she didn't. On balance, the evidence at the moment says that she didn't so it's up to her to disprove that. The company policy/system that OP is aware of and knows about is that she uses her company-provided card to enter the building and that is the log for her in-office days. She forgot her pass and created the discrepancy.

OP has since provided two pieces of evidence:

1. The temp card being issued
2. The bank screenshot.

The problem is, both of those pieces of evidence are in doubt because (1) her being issued a temp card isn't on the company system and (2) the bank screenshot shows the clearing date not the purchase date.

OP claims to have three further pieces of evidence:

1. The full bank statement (which can be redacted)
2. Her train ticket
3. A witness

She has refused, without reason, to provide any of those "on principle". That alone is suspicious behaviour to most people.

And I'm not sure what other options you think they have? CCTV won't have been retained this long, OP says no one was in the office that day...

This isn't a criminal trial or a court of law - innocent until proven guilty doesn't apply. OP didn't follow the correct process (using her swipe card), if she wants to prove that she did the correct thing despite not following the correct process, she needs to actually prove it. Even if this went to the employment tribunal, it still wouldn't be "innocent until proven guilty" - it's not a concept that applies to his circumstance.

OP prefers to moan that there is no solution.

This is AIBU

Where you invite in others opinions.

PS You’re supposed to take them on board, because you asked for them 🤣🤣😆!

Had to do this once.

Print it.
Blot out everything except the relevant parts.
Photocopy it.
Check if anything needs more blotting out - blot it out.
Copy again, and repeat until you're happy nothing else can be read.
Now scan and email it.

Like strangers on the internet would eat humble pie, because you forgot your pass!

Don’t forget it tomorrow for the meeting.

Depends on whether it’s OP’s manager insisting on this evidence or whether it’s company policy or an edict from higher management. I’ve worked in plenty of places where higher management have been fast tracked morons with no idea what goes on at grass roots.

You don't even need fancy software. Simply Screen shot and use the pen tool on the built in photo editor to redact the other info

If we forget our badge we have to sign for a door pass with security - don’t you do that so can just show them you signed for door pass?

This whole thing would not have arisen if the op and her manager had a normal healthy working relationship.

So you think this because the manager won’t take OP’s word for the fact that she used a temporary pass that day ? I’d think that it’s actually the employer taking the piss in not keeping adequate records of the temporary passes being issued.

Nah, not a chance that’s true

OP said upthread that she has received the highest possible performance evaluation so unlikely - assuming it’s true.

We will never know the back story
but fact is - very evidently the OP is perceived terribly by her manager
it will be because the op has taken the piss multiple times before

the op is going to be the loser in this, and rightfully so.

Well done. Glad you're a union member.

That would certainly make things crystal clear. I think Op has forgotten this all started because she forgot her pass. I think the company needs a better fail safe system so this doesn’t happen again. If OP hadn’t made a purchase on the day I don’t see any way she could have proved she was there as their system is flawed.

Unless there is a massive backstory, which I reckon there is. In fact, I predict a huge drip feed on about page 35.