3 day suspension for having phone out in school

perhaps parents should search their kids pockets and bags before school.... or PERHAPS kids should learn to follow rules without being forced!

I think the whole point of the punishment is for it to be extreme - so the kids follow the rule. I wish they would implement this in more schools! I’d certainly be on board if it was at my child’s school.

It's a weird way of being sure they are phone free, but if they are still carrying it around the punishment would have to be severe to ensure they are not used.
I would suggest to the consultation that pupils either don't bring them to school or check them at the door- much more reliable and you don't need tough punishments to enforce it.

Follow the rules, don't get in trouble. Not sure you need to complicate it any more than that?

Then maybe parents should put some boundaries in place to make sure it doesn't happen again (or ideally doesn't happen in the first place)?

I'm not old enough for lines. We had mobile phones when I was at school. Soft touch punishments didn't work then, they haven't worked since and parents should no better than to say anything other than thank you to a school trying to tackle it.

Indeed! It's also so sad to see them when they come out and they all have their heads down looking at their phones.

I worked in a school where they were allowed to use them during breaks and it really was noteworthy the difference in behaviour. In the classroom many couldn't be quiet for a minute and chatted constantly but as soon as they were outside there was silence while they all stood transfixed to their phones.

But the point I was (badly) trying to make is you know if you drink 5 pints of cider, you will lose your license. The kid knew the punishment but did it anyway.

Schools have felt the need to up the anti due to persistent and continuous problems with phones in class.

As with most things, it's the minority who abuse the rules. Teachers can tell if it's an accident a phone wasn't switched off or a student deliberately disrupting but the impact is the same.

You don't realise how much sneaky recording, messages, sharing memes etc goes on and much of it is to do with deriding peers and staff.

One instance recently, a pupil videoed a staff member, put a soundtrack over it to make it look like he was swearing and boasted he had sent it to his parents and the police! I mean, teachers can do without this kind of crap on top of everything else.

Yes 3 days does sound extreme, it is, but they're emphasising the importance of the issue, ie zero tolerance, because they're probably so fed up with the amount of time wasted dealing with phones and their misuse.

Yes, but the point is that drink driving is a serious offence and the penalty is proportionate. How about if you speed and have you license taken away immediately? Still think that’s ok? Forget the training course and points on your licence?

issue is with behaviour control you need to encourage some of the good behaviour, modify the undesirable behaviour and leave some headspace to punish the really serious stuff.

I am speaking of my own situation. I’m sure other parents in town have issues with admissions, catchment etc etc.

I am really am counting my blessings with my child’s school. There are reward schemes
to encourage good behaviour, I get behaviour scores sent to me from every lesson; it just seems like the school is working with students and parents not against them in a punitive manner. I think the head would possibly explode at the notion of losing 3 days education. Utterly disproportionate. Oh and they also get asked to use their phones occasionally in class too.

Op (and some posters) you know that if you drink drive you lose your driving licence and receive a fine. We've all be told that, we probably know people that's happened too...but you sound like the person who says " I was only a bit over the limit..it's not fair"
Them's the rules, your boy broke them...if you can't do the time don't commit the crime.

@SaxaSoLo I think rural parents do have fewer choices but surrounding cities there are towns with schools. You might notice private school parents drive much further to get the best fit school. Even in my rural area, not all parents choose the local school by any means.

Sheesh - I’m counting my blessings that my child goes to a sensible and moderate school. Phones if seen are confiscated. No one searches bags. Uniform and equipment requirements are on the minimal
side. Focus is on attendance and education.

good job really as for all those sanctimoniously saying ‘if you don’t like
it choose another school’, in my rural area there isn’t one! Another reason I'm glad they have the phone so can contact us and be safe to and from school . And before anyone chips in about the ‘what would you have done in the good old days?’ Well back then they would have been safely on the school bus but cuts saw to that being cancelled with a 2.9 mile walk along country roads suddenly and miraculously becoming a safe walking route over night.

There's currently a semi-rational movement to blame 'devices' for all humanity's woes, and particularly those of the younger generation. Personally, I'd fight it tooth and nail. But it'll be hard going!

DD’s phone is taken off her when she gets into school and goes and collects it when it’s time to leave.

To the point now if she doesn’t have any clubs and she’s getting a lift both ways to/from school she doesn’t bother taking it in. Much better all around.

The issue is a lot of things like bus passes are done via apps.
To get home - you need a smart phone.

Get a Nokia with basic text and call capacity make that basic equipment and everyone’s happy!

Except I expect the kids wouldn’t like that as much.

Perfectly reasonable, it’s been well telegraphed in advance and is not difficult to comply with.

I mean you get 6 points for using a mobile phone in your car and that’s half way to a driving ban.

Three days off school sounds like a reward for the student and a punishment for the parent. It should be three days in detention instead.

It's correct that children don't need phones while IN school but these days they are very useful to have one as part of getting to and from school.
Public pay phones are rare.
Bus tickets are often via an app.
The OPs argument isn't about the no phones being used in school hours rule - it's about the 3 day suspension if a child is caught using one.
That's what she is concerned about.

And people wonder why kids are rude, cruel and out of control with no respect these days. Those against this are part of the reason. We got on just fine without phones in school. Why can't your kids?

@Digdongdoo I actually don't know.
I really don't.
It's just ironic to give those who dislike school and are more likely to break rules time OFF school.
In school suspensions would be better.
Or as someone upthread suggested - a bit of community service.
In my day we had lunchtime litter picking but as lunchtimes are so short these days that might not work.
Or lines. Remember them? A boring and time consuming waste of free time.
500 times of "I will follow the phone rules".