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Asking if you took a Ukrainian guest in your home why you want them gone asap?

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Anhelina2000xx · 25/06/2025 16:19

My experience as Ukrainian coming to UK. Many people want the Ukrainian guest for them house but when we are there straight away want you to leave asap and getting the job asap even if it is the very bad job.
This is my experience and the experience of very many Ukrainian people I speak to. Why? Why does the English agree to have Ukrainians for them house but plan to make them leave asap? In my first home in UK she want me to get the job after 1 week! 1 week not very many time to even relax and try to speak my family from Ukraine! My brothers was forced in war just one day he go and buy the food at the shop!
Was they told the Ukrainian is only staying for a week or something like this? Or when you live with Ukrainian you start to hate them so you say please get a job right now please find a new place? And this is not only me, this is very many Ukrainians. Told to come them to this home. Then told please to leave asap!
Why?

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OhBumBags · 25/06/2025 17:43

UnctuousUnicorns · 25/06/2025 17:42

"Irreverent" is a bit steep; I'm sure it's just ignorance. But yes, yet another drop and run. Maybe there should be a rule that you can't start a thread until you've posted on others at least, say, ten or fifteen times.

Autocorrect! I meant irrelevant! 🤣🤣

UnctuousUnicorns · 25/06/2025 17:42

"Irreverent" is a bit steep; I'm sure it's just ignorance. But yes, yet another drop and run. Maybe there should be a rule that you can't start a thread until you've posted on others at least, say, ten or fifteen times.

dogcatkitten · 25/06/2025 17:39

I think the idea of helping a Ukrainian (or any other) refugee is very different from the reality, it seems like a really good charitable thing to to, but having any house guest can get difficult and someone from a different culture maybe with not very good English could become very difficult quite quickly, particularly if the host isn't well off and has to provide everything. They may be quite desperate for the guest to start contributing financially.

I know someone married to a Ukrainian and their Ukrainian MIL, BIL and his wife, have been staying for some time due to the war and even that is not plain sailing!

UndermyShoeJoe · 25/06/2025 17:39

Councils were pushing families to push their guests and £300 a month is basically the lowest rate for a room without any bills included.

People opened their homes with their hearts but really it cost a lot of money them.

Any job is better than no job and especially if there was ever plans to move into your own independent housing that job needs to come asap to build up the funds and prove you could hold down the job for the rental.

OhBumBags · 25/06/2025 17:35

It's all pretty irreverent anyway since the OP seems to have tapped the fish tank and rushed off giggling.

Lins77 · 25/06/2025 17:33

OhBumBags · 25/06/2025 17:31

And again...

I was replying to tuvamoodyson, not the OP.

But @tuvamoodyson was just explaining why the OP might have used it.

I'm sure they don't actually think English and British mean the exact same thing.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 25/06/2025 17:33

In Ireland there is a lot of bitterness too, as many Ukrainian people are out earning the locals, while living in hotel accommodation, no heating or electric bills, food allowance and full benefits if unemployed.

Plus the councils pushed 1000s to the top of the housing list, the backlash stopped this, but 100's if not more properties were allocated.

Culturally people from Ukraine are more direct, it can come across as abrupt.

I'm sorry you had a bad experience, surely 3 year's later, you were re-homed

OhBumBags · 25/06/2025 17:31

crumpet · 25/06/2025 17:29

I think you are quibbling unnecessarily when the intent of the post is clear. It is hardly likely that the OP meant to add “of course the Welsh and Scots were fantastic and I am just singling out English people”. Allow some latitude for language differences and also speaking on an informal forum rather than getting cross and derailing

And again...

I was replying to tuvamoodyson, not the OP.

tammienorrie · 25/06/2025 17:31

I think a lot of people saw what was happening and wanted to help out in an emergency situation by offering emergency accommodation. It was never supposed to be a “as long as it takes” arrangement, it was support to find your feet in the UK and help with practical things like getting children into school or to register with a doctor . A Ukrainian with a good level of spoken/written English may well be able to find a job in a week.

JustGoClickLikeALightSwitch · 25/06/2025 17:30

Sera1989 · 25/06/2025 16:49

I live in an area where a fair few people took in Ukrainian people and I agree with a PP that it seems the hosts were financially unprepared. I think they did it out of kindness but then it became apparent that there wasn’t much government support (financial, cultural or practical). And they kind of expected the people to act like a lodger I.E. have a job to pay for groceries, help with bills, help with chores. Rather than being in a position to financially or empathetically take in someone who is traumatised and completely starting over

All of this.

Melasma · 25/06/2025 17:29

I mean this is the best way- but it’s been 3 and a half years since Putin invaded. It’s not a long term solution to live in another persons home. I would expect you have sorted something or accommodation for yourself out by now. And nothing wrong with taking any job- we have to do that? I wouldn’t rely on other people funding me or my family. The idea is a refuge whilst you get help , jobs, homes etc

crumpet · 25/06/2025 17:29

OhBumBags · 25/06/2025 17:25

English is not shorthand for British.

I think you are quibbling unnecessarily when the intent of the post is clear. It is hardly likely that the OP meant to add “of course the Welsh and Scots were fantastic and I am just singling out English people”. Allow some latitude for language differences and also speaking on an informal forum rather than getting cross and derailing

OhBumBags · 25/06/2025 17:28

alexalisten · 25/06/2025 17:26

Bloody hell give her a break she's not from here and English isnt her first language

I was replying to tuvamoodyson, not the OP 🙄

alexalisten · 25/06/2025 17:28

Figcherry · 25/06/2025 17:26

A young and fit refugee should surely be prepared to work to help with the extra expense incurred by the family and no one is going to walk into a good job easily.

Yeah not the second they arrive though. Can you not imagine how traumatic it must of been having to leave your home, move country with a different language and leave you husband and sons etc to fight in a war.

Youdontseehow · 25/06/2025 17:27

Good attempt at pidgin English @Anhelina2000xx . 7/10 as just a bit too obvious.

UnctuousUnicorns · 25/06/2025 17:27

OhBumBags · 25/06/2025 17:13

Genuine question because I don't know the answer.

Were the English the only people in the UK to take in Ukrainians?

And if not, were there no problems in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland OP?

Well, if you're seriously going to get arsey over a Ukrainian person erroneously substituting "English" for "British", I'm afraid I've got news for you. It happens all the time. Don't expect everyone in the rest of the world, or even Europe, to be knowledgeable of the difference. You'll be waiting a long time if you do.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 25/06/2025 17:26

I'd say it is a personality clash.
A lot of people reacted with their heart, not their head.
I know a few families who hosted for months, others cannot afford to keep up with the expenses.

alexalisten · 25/06/2025 17:26

OhBumBags · 25/06/2025 17:25

English is not shorthand for British.

Bloody hell give her a break she's not from here and English isnt her first language

Notreallyme27 · 25/06/2025 17:26

We had a family stay with us for 12 months (the government asks hosts to take guests for at least six months), though we didn’t ask them to leave. They just became independent and obviously wanted their own place. We consider them family now, we love them and still see them every week. I never put pressure on our guest to find work straight away because she was very traumatised but it was difficult to get the jobcentre to understand this.

But in answer to your question here are a few things to remember:

Most hosts did this out of the goodness of their hearts and discovered that it costs a lot more than the £300 a month from the government to keep an extra family.

The local council puts pressure on hosts to encourage independence in guests. In the UK people are not allowed to just sit round and not work. If they do, the government will stop their benefits. The amount of benefits that are paid is small, not enough for a good life. People are much better off going to work.

In the UK we have a housing crisis. There are not enough homes for the number of people and housing is VERY expensive. Your host understands that if you want to find somewhere to live in the future you will need to have saved a lot of money. Our guest had to pay £6000 to get a small flat (six months rent up front as she had no credit history in the UK). Your host will need to encourage you to do this, and the council will check regularly that they are doing it.

Some Ukrainians have expected to get houses from the council but unfortunately in most areas these no longer exist. If no plans or savings have been made, it is a big problem for the council and they want to make sure that doesn’t happen, so they put a lot of pressure on hosts to make sure guests are working and saving.

So you need to be thinking of the future and start planning as early as possible, or you will have no chance of ever living independently. Do not think that it’s because hosts don’t want you. Remember that they understand the UK and know how things work much better than you do! I understand it must feel like they are trying to push you but it genuinely isn’t done with bad feeling. We all want what is best for you until it is safe for you to return home. слава Україні 💙💛

ipredictariot5 · 25/06/2025 17:26

I had a family with me for 5 months. They did get jobs within about 3 months and moved into a private rental near us. Three years later they are settled, we see them regularly and they seem to feel grateful for what we did
I took advice from a psychiatrist who was an expert in PTSD in refugees from war zones who I met through a contact. He said the best thing to do was to move quickly towards a new normal and routine which involves the child at school, parents working and able to be financially independent. They aren’t doing the professional jobs they did as language is a barrier but will never go back I think as their home is now part of Russian Federation
I am sorry if you have had a bad experience. But I thought we needed to plan for how the hosting ended right from the start and gave them every help to find jobs and a home. I didn’t want them to feel rejected and unwelcome and I think eventually these arrangements can end that way if there is no plan.

Figcherry · 25/06/2025 17:26

A young and fit refugee should surely be prepared to work to help with the extra expense incurred by the family and no one is going to walk into a good job easily.

OhBumBags · 25/06/2025 17:25

tuvamoodyson · 25/06/2025 17:23

Perhaps, OP meant English as in British…

English is not shorthand for British.

Lins77 · 25/06/2025 17:24

Scotland has definitely taken in Ukrainian people. I imagine Wales and NI too.

OhBumBags · 25/06/2025 17:24

Also, the family who wanted you out after a week are the only ones who will know the reason why.

Did they or the authorities really not tell you the reason?

tuvamoodyson · 25/06/2025 17:23

OhBumBags · 25/06/2025 17:13

Genuine question because I don't know the answer.

Were the English the only people in the UK to take in Ukrainians?

And if not, were there no problems in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland OP?

Perhaps, OP meant English as in British…