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Asking if you took a Ukrainian guest in your home why you want them gone asap?

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Anhelina2000xx · 25/06/2025 16:19

My experience as Ukrainian coming to UK. Many people want the Ukrainian guest for them house but when we are there straight away want you to leave asap and getting the job asap even if it is the very bad job.
This is my experience and the experience of very many Ukrainian people I speak to. Why? Why does the English agree to have Ukrainians for them house but plan to make them leave asap? In my first home in UK she want me to get the job after 1 week! 1 week not very many time to even relax and try to speak my family from Ukraine! My brothers was forced in war just one day he go and buy the food at the shop!
Was they told the Ukrainian is only staying for a week or something like this? Or when you live with Ukrainian you start to hate them so you say please get a job right now please find a new place? And this is not only me, this is very many Ukrainians. Told to come them to this home. Then told please to leave asap!
Why?

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Mrsbloggz · 25/06/2025 18:36

OhBumBags · 25/06/2025 17:35

It's all pretty irreverent anyway since the OP seems to have tapped the fish tank and rushed off giggling.

Yep!

OneFunBrickNewt · 25/06/2025 18:35

OhBumBags · 25/06/2025 17:13

Genuine question because I don't know the answer.

Were the English the only people in the UK to take in Ukrainians?

And if not, were there no problems in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland OP?

TLDR: Don't be a tosser, cut the OP some slack.

Long version: What a pedantic message.
I mean I'm all for knowing all the constituent parts of the UK- I teach this to KS2 children- but I wouldn't expect refugees and asylum seekers to the UK fleeing war to know the difference between Belfast and Cardiff.
What's your knowledge of Ukrainian oblasts?

Twisterpiggy · 25/06/2025 18:35

StepawayfromtheLindors · 25/06/2025 18:34

Yes, agree

Do you also think the invasion ended 3 years ago?

Twisterpiggy · 25/06/2025 18:34

OhBumBags · 25/06/2025 18:32

I don't think it's too far of a stretch to hope that anyone would at least learn a tiny bit about the country they were living in.

In fact it's extremely insular not to.

Why are you assuming she hasn’t made an effort to learn about the UK? What a ridiculous criticism based on literally nothing.

StepawayfromtheLindors · 25/06/2025 18:34

TheKeatingFive · 25/06/2025 18:05

I'm confused by the OP. Why are you talking about people wanting refugees out ASAP or within a week, when it's been more than 3 years since the invasion.

Am I missing something?

Yes, agree

Twisterpiggy · 25/06/2025 18:33

TheKeatingFive · 25/06/2025 18:05

I'm confused by the OP. Why are you talking about people wanting refugees out ASAP or within a week, when it's been more than 3 years since the invasion.

Am I missing something?

Refugees from Ukraine are still fleeing the war, they didn’t all move 3 years ago.
The war is still ongoing, surely you understand that?

OhBumBags · 25/06/2025 18:32

blueshoes · 25/06/2025 18:29

Absolutely.

It is shows how insular people are who expect others to understand the nuances of the United Kingdom, Britain, Great Britain, The British Isles and England and Wales. Presume they have an extensive knowledge of all other countries in the world and understand the differences between all the terms I listed.

I don't think it's too far of a stretch to hope that anyone would at least learn a tiny bit about the country they were living in.

In fact it's extremely insular not to.

Twisterpiggy · 25/06/2025 18:31

OhBumBags · 25/06/2025 17:13

Genuine question because I don't know the answer.

Were the English the only people in the UK to take in Ukrainians?

And if not, were there no problems in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland OP?

Presumably the OP can’t speak on NI, Scotland or Wales because she’s in England though?

blueshoes · 25/06/2025 18:29

UnctuousUnicorns · 25/06/2025 17:27

Well, if you're seriously going to get arsey over a Ukrainian person erroneously substituting "English" for "British", I'm afraid I've got news for you. It happens all the time. Don't expect everyone in the rest of the world, or even Europe, to be knowledgeable of the difference. You'll be waiting a long time if you do.

Absolutely.

It is shows how insular people are who expect others to understand the nuances of the United Kingdom, Britain, Great Britain, The British Isles and England and Wales. Presume they have an extensive knowledge of all other countries in the world and understand the differences between all the terms I listed.

dottymac · 25/06/2025 18:27

The reality of having people in your house that are strangers, is that it is quite uncomfortable. Especially if it's for a long time. People don't realise this until they have done it, sadly.

MamaGell · 25/06/2025 18:12

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41Songs · 25/06/2025 18:12

Genevieva · 25/06/2025 17:54

The scheme was set up as a temporary short term measure. The government said a maximum of 6 months for Ukrainians to find jobs and housing of their own. The equivalent scheme for Hong Kong Chinese families fleeing persecution didn’t involve any opportunity to live with a British family while they get themselves settled.

Have you ever had guests for longer than a few days? There is a saying that guests are like fish: after 3 days they start to smell.

The government actually asked for a minimum commitment of 6 months from host families.

We had a Ukrainian family staying with us for about 2.5 years, and we know others who had guests stay for a similar amount of time. However, I think some people got caught up in wanting to help and invited Ukrainians into their homes, but didn't think through the reality of what it would be like to have strangers living with them.

We were lucky in that we all got on well and our house is big enough that we weren't on top of each other. We went into hosting with an expectation that we would do it for at least a year, but some hosts saw the 6 month minimum as the most they could do.

1offnamechange · 25/06/2025 18:10

I think the crossed messages are perfectly set up in your post. You said "Many people want the Ukrainian guest for them house" but it wasn't really a case of want - people did it out of generosity, kindness, a desire to help, etc. Very few people really WANT complete strangers living with them - would you if the situations were reversed?. Being willing isn't the same as wanting it. The vast majority of people offering to host considered themselves to be doing their guests a (pretty massive) favour.

Of course that doesn't mean they expected people to be gushingly grateful and worship at their feet but it was sold to people as a short term deal, with the aim always being that the guests would either be in a position to return home if the situation resolved, but if not would be aiming to build their own life and get on their feet as quickly as possible.

Of course anyone would be unreasonable to expect you to have got a job within 1 week, but I have to say if I were hosting I would absolutely be expecting you to have started looking by then as well. Possibly because people know how long things can take in the UK - just applying for things and getting through the various sift stages takes ages, so it can take months to even be offered a job, further weeks/months to get references/start date etc., then you usually need several months payslips etc to be considered as a renter - so even if you found a job literally within a week of moving, realistically it would take further months from that to be in a position to move out, which was probably why people wanted to get the ball rolling.

TheKeatingFive · 25/06/2025 18:05

I'm confused by the OP. Why are you talking about people wanting refugees out ASAP or within a week, when it's been more than 3 years since the invasion.

Am I missing something?

AngelinaFibres · 25/06/2025 18:02

BMW6 · 25/06/2025 17:07

Some English hosts are/were twats, as were some Ukrainian guests.

That's Humans for you.

My friend and her husband took in a Ukranian woman. Their marriage has broken down due to the husband and the Ukrainian woman having an affair. The wife( my friend) has seen the sale of her beautiful home go through and is now living alone in a much smaller house. The husband had retired ( he's in his 60s) but has had to go back to work to finance his shiny new life with the Ukrainian woman She's in her 40s and wants a baby. His now exwife was also in her 60s and they have 4 adult children.
My other friend took in a Ukrainian woman and her teenage son. Friend is single. The son was 16. In Ukraine men do not do domestic tasks and he and his mother were extremely rude when my friend suggested that, as he was now in the UK, he might like to learn how to strip his bed and use the washing machine. They took over the communal areas of her house and were loud and rude. The son constantly left the windows open when he went out ( it's a bungalow). UK teenagers can be just as obnoxious, obviously, but they were guests in her house. She evicted them

Genevieva · 25/06/2025 17:58

OhBumBags · 25/06/2025 17:25

English is not shorthand for British.

People outside the U.K. often do use the two as one and the same. Less so now than in the past, but it still happens.

GreatOliveTiger · 25/06/2025 17:55

I hosted a Ukrainian family for over a year. I helped with all the things you need, schools, bank accounts, doctors, UC and found a part time job for Mum. They left after a year as they wanted city life. I still visit and buy birthday/Christmas presents. I am not saying that it was all plain sailing. There are cultural differences and different expectations but with good will and flexibility on both sides and compassion and understanding it can work.

Genevieva · 25/06/2025 17:54

The scheme was set up as a temporary short term measure. The government said a maximum of 6 months for Ukrainians to find jobs and housing of their own. The equivalent scheme for Hong Kong Chinese families fleeing persecution didn’t involve any opportunity to live with a British family while they get themselves settled.

Have you ever had guests for longer than a few days? There is a saying that guests are like fish: after 3 days they start to smell.

crazeekat · 25/06/2025 17:53

My friend hosted a female Ukrainian for well over a year. She got a good job in a school, (still below what she was qualified to do in Ukraine) and she stayed with my friend and hubby for over a year. Then she decided she was going to stay forever and not go back so she looked for her own house. Now she is totally independent, supports herself but still remains very good friends with my friend and all her friends and family. They socialise a lot. Like every week they go out. So I am sorry a lot of Ukrainians have not been treated good but please remember there are many who has. As people there are many reasons why hosting someone did not work out. I worked as a British nanny for years in America. A lot of my European friends jobs did not work out, and a lot of the time it was personality clashes more than anything. It’s difficult to have someone in your home full time and if you end up not actually liking that person very much it makes it very difficult for everyone. But I am sorry it seems like you know many who were not given what they need, which is safety, then time to adjust.

manicpixieschemegirl · 25/06/2025 17:53

I very much suspect that some people who took in Ukrainian refugees have a saviour complex and did so for mostly selfish reasons. They loved the idea of “doing the right thing” and all the praise and admiration that came with it, but weren’t prepared for the reality of living with highly traumatised human beings from a different culture in need of real support.

Comedycook · 25/06/2025 17:50

I think a lot of people probably didn't realise how hard it is to have a long term guest in your house...most people can barely cope with their own relatives staying over for extended periods.

StepawayfromtheLindors · 25/06/2025 17:48

Seems strange to ask this question three years after most Ukrainians fleeing the Russian invasion arrived in the UK.

Herewegoagainandagainandagain · 25/06/2025 17:46

I think some romanticised the idea of helping someone out, or wanted the kudos for it. But quickly found the reality of someone from another culture having gone through trauma a very different prospect to the one they imagined.

So essentially for many it was a poorly thought out plan.

Obviously that is only one of many reasons why it wouldn't/didn't work out.

UnctuousUnicorns · 25/06/2025 17:44

OhBumBags · 25/06/2025 17:43

Autocorrect! I meant irrelevant! 🤣🤣

I know. 🙂

tuvamoodyson · 25/06/2025 17:43

OhBumBags · 25/06/2025 17:25

English is not shorthand for British.

Well, perhaps not for a native British person! I’m Scottish, I fully understand that English isn’t shorthand for British!! But that’s because English is my first language and I’m not Ukrainian! 🙄