Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Birthday gift trip - city chosen sounds dangerous!

282 replies

Lyrixs21 · 25/06/2025 10:01

It was my birthday yesterday, and my partner booked a surprise trip for the two of us plus our 3 year old to go to Brussels on the Eurostar for two nights next weekend (4th July).

Neither of us have been to Brussels before, or indeed Belgium, so I excitedly started to do some research last night once he told me what the surprise was. As I delved into searches about Brussels, once thing kept coming up - how unsafe it is! I didn't go looking for information on safety, but it just seems to be a constant feature of discussions on the city. It's not a city I know anything about (bar always thinking it sounds a bit boring) but my main takeaways from my extensive research last night is that it is unsafe (shootings, drugs, petty crime) has a level 3 terrorist threat currently ('Serious') and is just generally dirty, unsavoury, and boring.

I now don't want to go after reading all that, and particularly don't want to bring my three year old and put her in any danger. I'm a little surprised my partner booked it in one sense, as it's very hard to find anything positive online about it!

Do I:

  • Tell him what I've read online and how I feel and that I'd prefer not to go? This seems a little rude given he has spent time and money researching things and booking it for my birthday, and I know I'll end up feeling bad.
  • Or, do I go, put up with it, but potentially not enjoy it because I'm worrying about safety and feel anxious and on edge? Based on what I'm reading I'm really not keen. I have found since we've had our daughter I am more concerned about safety generally but I expect that's normal?!

He did mention he looked at Amsterdam but that the hotels were crazy expensive another option for me might be to offer to pay for the hotel in Amsterdam and we change the Eurostar to go there? That way, we are still going and still going to experience the Eurostar and have the weekend away, but without me fretting and not really wanting to be there!

Any thoughts welcome.

OP posts:
Rachie1973 · 25/06/2025 11:13

Lyrixs21 · 25/06/2025 10:01

It was my birthday yesterday, and my partner booked a surprise trip for the two of us plus our 3 year old to go to Brussels on the Eurostar for two nights next weekend (4th July).

Neither of us have been to Brussels before, or indeed Belgium, so I excitedly started to do some research last night once he told me what the surprise was. As I delved into searches about Brussels, once thing kept coming up - how unsafe it is! I didn't go looking for information on safety, but it just seems to be a constant feature of discussions on the city. It's not a city I know anything about (bar always thinking it sounds a bit boring) but my main takeaways from my extensive research last night is that it is unsafe (shootings, drugs, petty crime) has a level 3 terrorist threat currently ('Serious') and is just generally dirty, unsavoury, and boring.

I now don't want to go after reading all that, and particularly don't want to bring my three year old and put her in any danger. I'm a little surprised my partner booked it in one sense, as it's very hard to find anything positive online about it!

Do I:

  • Tell him what I've read online and how I feel and that I'd prefer not to go? This seems a little rude given he has spent time and money researching things and booking it for my birthday, and I know I'll end up feeling bad.
  • Or, do I go, put up with it, but potentially not enjoy it because I'm worrying about safety and feel anxious and on edge? Based on what I'm reading I'm really not keen. I have found since we've had our daughter I am more concerned about safety generally but I expect that's normal?!

He did mention he looked at Amsterdam but that the hotels were crazy expensive another option for me might be to offer to pay for the hotel in Amsterdam and we change the Eurostar to go there? That way, we are still going and still going to experience the Eurostar and have the weekend away, but without me fretting and not really wanting to be there!

Any thoughts welcome.

I do wonder if you struggle with anxiety a bit.

The things you list are the same in most cities.

The terrorism threat is sadly a sign of the times. Our own threat level is ‘substantial’ at present.

Fletchasketch · 25/06/2025 11:13

What a lovely thing for your partner to do! I have been to Brussels both on my own, for work and in a group- I have only ever had a lovely time and never felt the slightest bit in danger. The food is outstanding, the city is immensely walkable and pretty and the people are lovely. Go and have a great birthday; you can't protect yourself from everything, even if you never leave the house. Please don't let your daughter grow up being scared of setting foot outside her front door.

Well1mBack · 25/06/2025 11:11

If you have time hop on the train to Bruges it is absolutely gorgeous and such a lovely place to visit. Plus the food is amazing!!!

4FoxxSake · 25/06/2025 11:11

I took my three kids to Brussels, solo. I didnt feel unsafe at all

deeadee · 25/06/2025 11:09

Been living in Brussels for the past 10 years, never had issues. Don’t beleive everything you read online and filter your results. It’s much smaller than London and the center / tourist areas are perfectly fine.

turkeyboots · 25/06/2025 11:09

Brussels is perfectly safe. Just don't go on the piss, get into fights and have your bag stolen as you drunkenly snore on the bus. All real life examples from my brother who thinks Brussels is awful and dangerous.
There are parks and palaces and chocolate and lovely squares. And I love the Atomium for its madness.

BlueyNeedsToFuckOff · 25/06/2025 11:07

AngryBird6122 · 25/06/2025 10:25

I have been a few times. The only place I felt that was dodgy was near the station. Once in the centre, it's fine.

Brussels station is the only place family have ever been pickpocketed but the rest of the city felt safe

SoftPillow · 25/06/2025 11:06

This is one of those occasions where the internet is not being helpful.

Brussels is a very safe city. Take the usual city precautions of not waving wads of cash about or walking at night in obviously dodgy areas.

Step away from your ‘research’ and enjoy your trip.

LadyLucyWells · 25/06/2025 11:03

CuriousKangaroo · 25/06/2025 10:13

Brussels is not dangerous. It’s just boring. (I have been a lot as I have friends who live there.)

Totally agree with this. Bruges is far more interesting.

CandiedPrincess · 25/06/2025 10:59

Do you go to London OP?

Yellowlab34 · 25/06/2025 10:59

Another who's been to Brussels and finds it very safe, and much more relaxed than Amsterdam! There are areas which are a bit edgy, as in every city, but as a tourist you'd never go to one of them anyway.

I think the terrorist threat is probably the same in all Nato counties at the moment, it means more police on the streets, but as a tourist you wouldn't notice anything.

I second taking a trip to Ghent - it's really lovely, 40 mins by train, and you take a boat trip when you get there, great way to see the city.

Lots of English spoken in both.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 25/06/2025 10:57

This is really odd, I've been there while pregnant and it's safe and lots to wander rounds and see

DraftSaved · 25/06/2025 10:56

Brussels is fine. But then again, I have brought my kids up in London so am used to life on the edge.

PollyBell · 25/06/2025 10:56

How is it any different to London, Manchester, Birmingham, Paris, New York, Beijing wouldn't it be safer not to leave the house thinking like this?

And what do you think people with children themselves do there?

irregularegular · 25/06/2025 10:55

Nonsense. US travel advisories rate pretty much all European countries as Level 2 due to an increased risk of terrorism: UK, Belgium, Netherlands, Germany, France, Italy. Brussels is just as safe/dangerous as any other large European city.

MyDeftDuck · 25/06/2025 10:54

Brussels is pretty much like any city……….there’s crime, drug use, homelessness, etc everywhere. And I am not having a go at the homeless before anyone jumps on me for classifying them as criminals…….merely trying to define practically every city I’ve ever visited in Europe, Canada, USA.

sellotapechicken · 25/06/2025 10:53

It’s Brussels not Tehran

HotCrossBunplease · 25/06/2025 10:53

CatBooksWineInThatOrder · 25/06/2025 10:43

Same as other people, I can’t believe this is about Brussels! 😂😂😂 I was there in February and the closest I got to a terrifying experience was burning my mouth on fries. We went by Eurostar and perhaps the area the station in isn’t great but no worse than any other major cities I’ve visited. Lots to see and do in the city and places to visit by train.

Love it!

OP, you need to get a handle on your anxiety. I’d suggest stepping away from the internet.

Ohforpetersake · 25/06/2025 10:53

Beautiful, underrated and really not dangerous.

Carodebalo · 25/06/2025 10:50

Brussels! Honestly Brussels is fine. The area around the midi station where you arrive is a bit filthy, dodgy late at night, (locals moan about it too), and watch out for pickpockets. Just take a taxi to wherever you’re staying and you’ll be fine! Go and see the grand place, and the area around Sablon, Magritte museum, etc, or for your child: train museum, natural history museum, there are many others. Eat moules frites, waffles, chocolate (go to chocolate museum or do a chocolate workshop), drink Belgian beer, there’s also an ‘Eye’ with a lovely view. Day trip to Ghent Bruges or Antwerp. Honestly you’ll find lots to do, culture, parcs, shopping around Avenue Louise (don’t go to Rue Neuve - a bit of a shitty area), or smaller boutiques in the Dansaert area. You’ll be fine, you’ll have nothing to worry about in Brussels!

luckylavender · 25/06/2025 10:50

I could not have imagined when I read your title that this would be Brussels

notacooldad · 25/06/2025 10:49

I love Brussels.
I do i often as a daytrip by myself.
The only time I was visually aware of a threat was when there was the Charlie Hebdo attack in Paris with more attacks threatened. Security was tight and there was armed guards on the street. I've been loads of times since then and enjoy going.
Im thinking about going again if I get a few days off together in August and I can get a cheap enough flight.

Maray1967 · 25/06/2025 10:48

I’ve taken student field trips to Brussels. It’s fine. There has been terrorist trouble - just as there has been in London, Paris and Berlin.

Take the DC to the chocolate museum and the Atomium, and to the mannekin pis! The old covered shopping arcades are lovely and the main square is wonderful. The military museum is interesting too, as is the cartoon museum.

HiRen · 25/06/2025 10:48

🤦‍♀️

Starlight1984 · 25/06/2025 10:47

ImNunTheWiser · 25/06/2025 10:43

As a comparison, currently the National Threat Level for the whole of the UK is:

Substantial (An attack is likely)

Assuming you are in the UK, do you generally feel safe going about your business?

This probably applies to the whole world currently too! People cancelling holidays to Cyprus, Greece, UAE, USA.....

Unless you have a trip planned to Beirut or the Gaza Strip then I imagine everywhere is on high alert currently and it makes no odds whether you are in the UK or on holiday somewhere.

Swipe left for the next trending thread