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Birthday gift trip - city chosen sounds dangerous!

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Lyrixs21 · 25/06/2025 10:01

It was my birthday yesterday, and my partner booked a surprise trip for the two of us plus our 3 year old to go to Brussels on the Eurostar for two nights next weekend (4th July).

Neither of us have been to Brussels before, or indeed Belgium, so I excitedly started to do some research last night once he told me what the surprise was. As I delved into searches about Brussels, once thing kept coming up - how unsafe it is! I didn't go looking for information on safety, but it just seems to be a constant feature of discussions on the city. It's not a city I know anything about (bar always thinking it sounds a bit boring) but my main takeaways from my extensive research last night is that it is unsafe (shootings, drugs, petty crime) has a level 3 terrorist threat currently ('Serious') and is just generally dirty, unsavoury, and boring.

I now don't want to go after reading all that, and particularly don't want to bring my three year old and put her in any danger. I'm a little surprised my partner booked it in one sense, as it's very hard to find anything positive online about it!

Do I:

  • Tell him what I've read online and how I feel and that I'd prefer not to go? This seems a little rude given he has spent time and money researching things and booking it for my birthday, and I know I'll end up feeling bad.
  • Or, do I go, put up with it, but potentially not enjoy it because I'm worrying about safety and feel anxious and on edge? Based on what I'm reading I'm really not keen. I have found since we've had our daughter I am more concerned about safety generally but I expect that's normal?!

He did mention he looked at Amsterdam but that the hotels were crazy expensive another option for me might be to offer to pay for the hotel in Amsterdam and we change the Eurostar to go there? That way, we are still going and still going to experience the Eurostar and have the weekend away, but without me fretting and not really wanting to be there!

Any thoughts welcome.

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Londonrach1 · 26/06/2025 18:19

Brussels is amazing. Been so many times. Great city break and as safe as Paris, London etc. if I had unlimited money it where I live. I feel vvv safe there.

gingercat02 · 26/06/2025 18:16

Brussels is lovely, I have been in woman only groups and never felt unsafe. Any city has dodgy bits but most tourist bits are fine.

Incognito1975 · 26/06/2025 18:13

You couldn't pay me enough to go to sleazy Amsterdam but Brussels is lovely. Definitely the better option especially with children.

Kickingoutthesbuser · 26/06/2025 18:04

Lyrixs21 · 25/06/2025 10:01

It was my birthday yesterday, and my partner booked a surprise trip for the two of us plus our 3 year old to go to Brussels on the Eurostar for two nights next weekend (4th July).

Neither of us have been to Brussels before, or indeed Belgium, so I excitedly started to do some research last night once he told me what the surprise was. As I delved into searches about Brussels, once thing kept coming up - how unsafe it is! I didn't go looking for information on safety, but it just seems to be a constant feature of discussions on the city. It's not a city I know anything about (bar always thinking it sounds a bit boring) but my main takeaways from my extensive research last night is that it is unsafe (shootings, drugs, petty crime) has a level 3 terrorist threat currently ('Serious') and is just generally dirty, unsavoury, and boring.

I now don't want to go after reading all that, and particularly don't want to bring my three year old and put her in any danger. I'm a little surprised my partner booked it in one sense, as it's very hard to find anything positive online about it!

Do I:

  • Tell him what I've read online and how I feel and that I'd prefer not to go? This seems a little rude given he has spent time and money researching things and booking it for my birthday, and I know I'll end up feeling bad.
  • Or, do I go, put up with it, but potentially not enjoy it because I'm worrying about safety and feel anxious and on edge? Based on what I'm reading I'm really not keen. I have found since we've had our daughter I am more concerned about safety generally but I expect that's normal?!

He did mention he looked at Amsterdam but that the hotels were crazy expensive another option for me might be to offer to pay for the hotel in Amsterdam and we change the Eurostar to go there? That way, we are still going and still going to experience the Eurostar and have the weekend away, but without me fretting and not really wanting to be there!

Any thoughts welcome.

Go to Bruges - it’s very pretty and full of chocolates, chips and beer

StrawberrySquash · 26/06/2025 17:37

Went a couple of years ago and had no issues. I've heard the area around the Eurostar station isn't great. Was a bit grubby, but we walked from there to the centre without any problems.

There's not as much to see as in some bigger capitals, but all good for a weekend trip.

12stars · 26/06/2025 17:31

MrsSkylerWhite · 26/06/2025 11:42

Certain areas in Brussels do feel unsafe (the bus station and surrounding area) for example. Research carefully.

Pity he didn’t choose Amsterdam.

Brussels doesn't have a bus station. It has a terminal at Gare du Nord and another at Gare du Midi. Gare du Nord is also where the red light area is so not the best area. No worse than any other city though.

For the poster who asked about Brussels for teens - what are they into?

MrsSkylerWhite · 26/06/2025 11:42

Certain areas in Brussels do feel unsafe (the bus station and surrounding area) for example. Research carefully.

Pity he didn’t choose Amsterdam.

DataColour · 26/06/2025 11:39

We will be spending a couple of days in Brussels this summer with two teenagers. Any tips from those familiar with the city?
We are also staying in Ghent for a week and doing day trips to Bruges, Antwerp etc, so just looking for ideas in Brussels.
Sorry to hijack the thread!

Never did I think that this thread was going to be about Brussels!

WaryCrow · 26/06/2025 11:11

Lulusept22 · 25/06/2025 14:41

I used to live there. It’s like Paris. If you’re worried, switch to Antwerp, I think it’s better as a tourist

Antwerp has definitely been having issues lately.

AvidJadeShaker · 25/06/2025 16:07

Slightly off subject, my family (all grown ups) absolutely loved the European Parliament which is free to visit.

12stars · 25/06/2025 16:02

I really don't think Brussels is dull! It has a little t of hidden treasures that are worth visiting. It's got so many quirky elements.

WitchOfSomorrostro · 25/06/2025 15:51

Brussels?! Of all places.. Seriously 😆

A bit of an odd choice for a special occasion and yes, it's dull (to me at least), Ghent or Bruges would be much better. But unsafe? Nah, don't be silly 😆

The only European city I felt slightly on edge in certain parts at night is Paris. But not enough not to visit again 😆I find both London and Barcelona completely fine. And pickpockets exist everywhere, in all big cities. Ditto with the areas around train stations, always dodgy, in most places.

Vas in Venice last February, during the carnival. Due to a massive fuck up with our hotel, had to book another one at the very last minute. Last minute hotels in Venice were $$$$$, so had to book further afield and chose a town called Mestre, 10 min train ride away.

The reviews of the place make it out to be like Tehran or Kabul. 'Step out of the train and die'. 'Heroin capital of Europe'. 'Wear a stab and bullet-proof vest'. Still booked it, not much choice.

It was absolutely fine. A few meek druggies wandering about and a whole bunch of tourists staying there. Not a pretty town, but you don't spend time there, just sleep and go to Venice. I'd happily stay there again.

Moral of the story: don't google too much.

Ginmonkeyagain · 25/06/2025 15:43

If you've lived in London Brussels will be a walk in the park.

As people have said the immediate area around the Gare du Midi is a bit scruffy but really not an issue.

ParmaVioletTea · 25/06/2025 15:42

Witchling · 25/06/2025 15:09

I was thinking Gaza maybe.....

I was thinking London, Liverpool, or Manchester ...

All perfectly lovely interesting cities which I visit often, but they have their unsafe areas - where it is possible NEVER to have to venture.

ParmaVioletTea · 25/06/2025 15:39

Good lord! Is this a wind up???

Rest assured @Lyrixs21 that Brussels is probably the second-most safe/boring/bland tourist city - second only to Toronto ime(apols, Canadians!)

You really need to take control of your anxiety about new experiences - it's so life and joy limiting, and unnecessary.

MrsAvocet · 25/06/2025 15:30

OP, I think you are doing the holiday equivalent of reading the information leaflet in the box of a very widely used, safe drug like paracetamol or a common antibiotic and imagining the worst case scenario. Yes, even drugs like that can have potentially very serious side effects so the information is true and needs to be made available but it also needs to be taken in context. In reality, for every one person who suffers a life threatening side effect from paracetamol or something there will be many thousands of us who take it with no problem and are just happy that our headache has gone.
There are risks to travel. Anywhere. It is sensible to know about those risks so that you can recognise them and take reasonable precautions. But in the same way as most of us will take common drugs completely uneventfully most of us will come to no harm in a mainstream destination. If you worried about every rare possible side effect you'd never take any kind of medication at all. If you worried about every risk of travel you'd never set foot outside your own home. And in both cases your life would probably be poorer as a result. Go. Enjoy it.

Wallichiana · 25/06/2025 15:18

I was in Brussels a couple of weeks ago to visit a friend her advice was arrive and leave the Eurostar terminal as soon as possible as it’s not nice there, book a cab to your accommodation and you’ll be fine

the city is stunning loads of incredible art deco buildings great cafe bar culture and galleries so fun for mooching in the right areas totally beautiful I really fell in love with it defo going back soon

basically the same as any capital city just watch out around the main train station area

12stars · 25/06/2025 15:14

@Lyrixs21 I am really interested to know where you read about Brussels being dangerous. I lived there for several years and always felt very safe.

Witchling · 25/06/2025 15:09

Shoxfordian · 25/06/2025 10:07

I thought it was going to be Tehran! Brussels is fine, its a nice city - you're worried for no real reason.

I was thinking Gaza maybe.....

Hayley1256 · 25/06/2025 15:09

I think this is the case for most major cities! The UK currently has a threat level of 'Substantial' which is 3 out of 5 so I don't think your any less safe in Brussels. Try not to worry about it and have a fab time

Comtesse · 25/06/2025 15:09

This is your anxiety speaking - Brussels is no more dodgy than any other European major city. Glad you are going to give it a go - be sure to try lots of beers!

Namechangean · 25/06/2025 15:06

You will find warnings about safety for any capital city. Brussels is lovely. You could do a day trip to Bruges if you prefer

Noshadelamp · 25/06/2025 15:05

Do the same searches for cities in the UK and you'll find the same sort of results.

Just be sensible and aware, just like when you visit any city in the UK.

Lyrixs21 · 25/06/2025 15:04

Thank you everyone for posting on this - really appreciate your thoughts, it sounds like I should just go and see what it’s like! I can be a bit of an anxious traveller, particularly since my daughter - saying that, I lived in London for 11 years until about 4 years ago (in dodgy parts!) and I know exactly what it’s like there (moved to another part of the UK, but am back there at least monthly to visit in-laws) but dangerous as it is I think there’s something about knowing the city that makes it seem different!

I’ll give Brussels a go - thank you for all the recommendations too, knowing there’s plenty to see, do and eat will keep me away from darker parts of the internet…. 😂😂

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Dodgethis · 25/06/2025 15:04

😂😂😂😂 It’s Belgium FFS. Do you think you are going to get bored to death, rained on, or do you suffer from a fatal allergic reaction to mayonnaise on chips?