To say that the "alternative medicine" and conspiracy theorists about Western medicine are dangerous to society?

Depends really. I looked up all sorts of alternative medicines for my dad but he was already terminal by that point (same cancer as your friend) I was just desperate to do anything to help because conventional medicine had failed and basically abandoned him at this point. They also say you can watch and wait with prostate cancer so it completely depends on what your friends prognosis was. If he has cancer in his bones chemo won't have cured that because it's stage IV. Conventional medicine doesn't always work either and it's your friends choice. I don't think calling people who use it all sorts of names whilst they're going through cancer etc. is particularly helpful.

I have heard many bad things about statins but not that one. Having said that the research about statins as wonder drug is probably why so many people don't trust modern drugs

YABU. It's not a threat to "society" only to certain gullible individuals.

Frankly, the gene pool is probably better off without them.

[Edited to add if it was not for modern medicines and surgery, I would have died years ago. Consequently my sympathy for "anti-vaxxers" etc is non-existent.]

I've had triple positive breast cancer, and chemo, then surgery, and now Herceptin have saved my life.

The algorithms on Instagram have presented me with a huge range of cancer grifters and nonsense 'cures' 😕

I would just say that my oncologist recommended acupuncture for my lingering chemo side effects, and also sage tablets. But medicine saved my life. That documentary is so sad.

The internet is making it easy for the nutters to get in touch with each other. In the past if a single conspiracy theorist tried to spout their nonsense over the Christmas dinner table or at work or in the pub, the sane people with them could have got them to shut up or just ignored them. Now the CT looks for like-minded credulous people on social media, searches for blogs, puts content on YouTube, Instagram, Tiktok etc and not only gets followers but may be able to make a living out of it.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crenzwyvpn1o

Didn't see Panorama but this article was a shocker. Poor young woman.

My partner refused chemo because his "alternative" friends convinced him to instead have oxygen therapy, a macrobiotic diet and a very expensive tree bark from South America. He died.

Yeah it’s harmful, but it’s also an effective way of removing the hard of thinking from the gene pool, so all good. Where it becomes problematic is when parents and family members are making that choice for their kids and dependents.

Correction. Except Xanax for backpain. I took one pill and could not think straight for three days. Returned them to the pharmacy.

My son had NHL too. 12 weeks of chemotherapy and he was in remission.

It’s such a shame.

All the herbal medicines that were effective have been scientifically studied, the active ingredients discovered and are now part of modern medicine.
That's where aspirin, digitalis etc came from. What's left is the useless placebo effect herbs and the dangerous ones. You're much safer buying a bottle of witch Hazel and a pack of aspirin that making yourself a cup of willow bark tea

Recently a friend rubbished statins 'because they cause cancer'. That was a new one for me, but then she's an anti-vaxxer. I'm for taking all the vaccines and medicines doctors recommend for me.

Was that the BBC article about Paloma Shermani. Absolutely tragic and needless death. Her brothers must be in such pain over it. She also had non-Hodgkins and had a high chance of living of she had undergone chemo but instead opted for the "Gershon Protocol" which is absolutely horseshit. horseshit would have about the same effectiveness as juices and coffee enemas

Charlatans have been peddling this rubbish for profit, for decades, long before anti-vaxxer types. About 25 years ago a school mum used to go to Mexico for coffee enemas and the like for bowel cancer - needless to say she died.

She may have died after conventional medicine who knows, but in the time since I'm sure coffee enemas haven't proved their worth in any scientific studies.

I have to admit, I thought that helped you lose weight because once you drank it you were too nauseous to have any food! 😂

Which is mental when you look to history and see the opposite.

It was the peasant folk who knew that if the cut of your hand is looking a bit manky, give it a wash and have a munch on some cheese that’s on the turn and it will probably look better in a few days 🤷🏻‍♀️😂
Whereas the aristocracy had a sore throat and having leeches stuck on their necks by the doctors who didn’t think washing their hands was important 🫠

Mouldy cheese lady was burned as a witch whilst leech man was promoted to royal physician 😳👍🏻👍🏻

I think there can be a healthy balance. I’m fully vaxxed, so is DD . I only wanted a hospital birth, I want proper drugs if I’m poorly , I cried with joy when I realised the pharmacist can prescribe antibiotics for certain things , if I were to have cancer I want all the drugs/surgeries/therapies (unless I’m like 80) etc. But for the little things? There are some home remedies that work (or maybe it’s placebo effect, who knows?) so I’m happy to give those a go unless I’m getting worse. Some are bonkers, some are pretty common sense.It takes ages to get a GP appt anyway so I might as well “do” something in the meantime.

I saw that. So sad especially as her mum had chemo! The result of the inquest be interesting and the go fund me mum had going on for it all.

I've come across her page before not realising shes the nurse who was struck off during covid. Its a intresting hole to fall into. Organ are sold etc and this and that. The people who hang onto every word also..scary