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Flaky friend - last straw AIBU??

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Fitasafiddle1 · 24/06/2025 11:40

I have a long standing friend that I like a lot. Over the years she has bailed out of virtually all invites from most of our friends, including me. Only managing a handful of times. Sometimes without telling them/ us and just not turning up. She can be very avoidant. I thought it might be social anxiety, but she does a hobby that requires a lot of socialising at times that she manages well.

This time however it was important as I had something to tell her in person, she bailed an hour before dinner and was so flippant and she said she was going to a gig in town and she’ll see me another time. Up to now I have been quite relaxed about her flakiness.

I sent a message to say I was finding it hard to have any meaningful friendship with her, as she keeps letting me down and now she is cross and upset with me?! She is giving me the silent treatment now. I feel like it is kind of gas lighting and a strange response. Wdyt?

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ArtTheClown · 24/06/2025 18:31

This certainly proves that "charmingly" flakey people are self-centred, toxic, manipulative arseholes, doesn't it?

WillaHermione · 24/06/2025 18:27

Is it possible she is ND OP? I say that as I have a now acquaintance who has dyspraxia and this is the way she behaves and has done since we were teenagers. We are now in our 40s. Only shows up when she wants to, just doesn’t show up, occasionally comes up with an excuse at the last minute. I dealt with this by asking her to meet me and DH when we doing something anyway that she could easily slip into and not asking her to meet us if it was important. Like your friend she doesn’t comprehend situation or feelings of others.

JoshLymanSwagger · 24/06/2025 18:25

Mutual friend has posted that she took flake to a concert because her mental health is ‘in the toilet’ and she needed a lift

Yes, but the Flake already had plans with you. That's the point.

You need to just state the facts that you had plans together and she let you down at the last minute to go to the concert, so you questioned how meaningful her friendship was to you.

LurkyMcLurkinson · 24/06/2025 18:20

Now I’d be tempted to be a bitch since they’ve decided to take the mean girls approach and gang up on you. I would keep the message largely the same but add a sting in the tail.

I suspect it’s me that’s upset the flake as I expressed my disappointment last night that she cancelled on me an hour before we were due to meet as she was wanted to go to a concert instead. Of course had I known about her father or her mental health difficulties I wouldn’t have chosen that evening to address what has been an ongoing difficulty in our friendship for some years now.

scotstars · 24/06/2025 18:19

I would reduce contact. I have social anxiety and don't always take up offers and invites if I know they will make me uncomfortable but always think that's better than last min changing my mind!

CheeseFiend40 · 24/06/2025 18:16

Fitasafiddle1 · 24/06/2025 18:09

Whilst I was trying to choose my words carefully to answer about the concert etc. Mutual friend has posted that she took flake to a concert because her mental health is ‘in the toilet’ and she needed a lift, ( so that now makes sense) and that is shocked by the total lack of empathy shown to flake, and that she thought the group would be much more supportive of flake as she deals with this crisis.

Mutual friend and I are not close. She has older dc and isn’t always around for meet ups etc but she does come to some.

Lots of replies of how kind MF is for thinking of flake and of course flake needs nights out to lift her spirits.

I am just flabbergasted. My sense is to say nothing now. This is getting into a real mess.

I would still respond the same as previously suggested to nip this whole thing in the bud, just amend it slightly:

I suspect most of this is aimed at me as I expressed my disappointment last night that flake cancelled on me an hour before we were due to meet as she wanted to go to a concert instead. Of course had I know about her father I would have perhaps responded differently.

Carriemac · 24/06/2025 18:16

Keep your head up you did nothing wrong and flake will flake in them all eventually.

AcquadiP · 24/06/2025 18:16

She gave you an hour's notice that she wouldn't be meeting up with you as she would be attending another event? This is rude, disrespectful and inconsiderate. Quite rightly you have called her out on it and she's now in a huff. I wouldn't waste any more time or headspace on her.

ByMerryTiger · 24/06/2025 18:15

I really don’t understand why you had to make this a whole ‘thing’. She flaked on you several times and you didn’t like it. Completely understandable. You pull back, mirror her efforts and let things die a natural death. That is not ghosting, it’s just going about your business.

Instead, you decided to send her ‘a message to say I was finding it hard to have any meaningful friendship with her, as she keeps letting me down’ and ‘a message to say I am pulling back because our time together doesn’t feel that important to her, and that’s fine she can prioritise what she wants but I won’t be organising anything else’.

Why?! It’s all just so unnecessary and puerile. And now there’s drama. For no reason.

Fanxjanx · 24/06/2025 18:13

I think you need to put your point across to the group OP because they are slating you to your face. It’s so out of order, I really don’t have patience for people like this and will stand my ground.

sandrapinchedmysandwich · 24/06/2025 18:12

Pearlz · 24/06/2025 11:42

I think it’s good you were honest with her and her response is really disappointing. Given how she’s responded it’s clear you’re not going to be able to talk things through and resolve this in a way that works for you so sadly yes I think this relationship is over. You can’t keep going as things are and she’s shut down your attempt to discuss/work on it. So you’re out of options. Sorry for you, it’s horrible

She is a selfish arsehole. How dare she try the whole narcissist darvo thing when she is totally and utterly in the wrong. You are better off without her op

Hanovercrosse · 24/06/2025 18:11

Sack her off ! I had similar, could not be arsed. She’ll do the same to the other friend

Viviennemary · 24/06/2025 18:11

She is a selfish pain in the neck who won't ever change. Either ditch her or accept her the way she is.

70isaLimitNotaTarget · 24/06/2025 18:10

she bailed an hour before dinner and was so flippant and she said she was going to a gig in town and she’ll see me another time

"Tell you what , let;s not bother"

Or if you're feeling kinder "You seem to have trouble pinning down a date so let's just put this out to pasture "

Fitasafiddle1 · 24/06/2025 18:09

Whilst I was trying to choose my words carefully to answer about the concert etc. Mutual friend has posted that she took flake to a concert because her mental health is ‘in the toilet’ and she needed a lift, ( so that now makes sense) and that is shocked by the total lack of empathy shown to flake, and that she thought the group would be much more supportive of flake as she deals with this crisis.

Mutual friend and I are not close. She has older dc and isn’t always around for meet ups etc but she does come to some.

Lots of replies of how kind MF is for thinking of flake and of course flake needs nights out to lift her spirits.

I am just flabbergasted. My sense is to say nothing now. This is getting into a real mess.

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MyDeftDuck · 24/06/2025 18:08

I wouldn’t have responded at all and I certainly wouldn’t have made any future arrangements to meet her.

AngelicKaty · 24/06/2025 18:07

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They just don't know the real facts of what actually happened - yet - and have been expertly manipulated by the flake. Hopefully, OP will expose her for who she truly is.

AngelicKaty · 24/06/2025 17:59

@Fitasafiddle1 Please take @LurkyMcLurkinson 's advice OP on owning it and nip this in the bud. Your flaky friend is an arch-manipulator and has neatly manipulated your village friendship group - they just don't realise it yet, but will do so if you follow Lurky's advice. Don't let her get away with this OP.

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MageQueen · 24/06/2025 17:54

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No, it's more likely that their tolerance for flakiness is higher.

Eg exBIL would do something pretty wankerish. SIL would lose her temper. ExBIL would ptich her as the big meanie who is always mean to him. Everyone would rally around him (including PIL) becuase SIL is so "volatile".

Cue me in the corner going, "Um, does no one think it's a problem that the original argument blew up becuase he was annoyed that she wanted to go for a drink with a friend?"

Cue PIL et al. "Oh, he's just very sensitive and he wants to spend a lot of time with her. She should be grateful she has someone who loves her so much....." etc etc.

yakkity · 24/06/2025 17:51

Persephoknee · 24/06/2025 11:58

shes just not that into you! Disinvest!

She’s like this with everyone though. So it’s not a ‘not into you’ situation. It’s a ‘she’s not great at friendships’ situation.

WinWhenTheyreSinging · 24/06/2025 17:51

MageQueen · 24/06/2025 17:47

I think this is good. I'd edit slightly:

I suspect it’s me that’s upset the flake as I expressed my disappointment last night that she cancelled on me an hour before we were due to meet as she was wanted to go to a concert instead. Of course had I know about her father, I might not have said anything right then, but I didn't and I was upset to be let down again.

My version is a bit less conciliatory though, I accept that.

My version would be even less conciliatory, as I would be saying that I'm not sure how a terminally ill father affects the choice between pre-arranged plans with a friend and going to a gig instead.

RitaAndFrank · 24/06/2025 17:50

I know someone like this: long list of traumas, always the victim. Always the most unfortunate, always the flake. Most people have given up on her but she still keeps a handful close that she feeds crumbs to when she wants to. I cba with her anymore. If I were on your group chat op, I’d be quietly rooting for you.

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MutedMavis · 24/06/2025 17:47

I had a friend like this. We called her cancelling carol. She did it to me too many times.
However she's also a terrible gossip I'd I realised she'd been talking loudly about my daughter who was unwell.
That did it for me.
Six years on I don't miss her. She frequently sends messages to mutual friends but I resist. She was great fun but also a player, competitive and down right nasty at times. She once told me if she didn't feel like going to something she didn't. I should have listened.
Your friend is selfish OP and manipulative using her father's illness. It will feel like a bereavement but these people don't give a fuck. You shouldn't either. X