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To want to tell the local addict to step away from the kids?

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dilemmaemmaemma · 24/06/2025 11:36

There was a classic multi substance addict hanging out in the park yesterday. Can of cheap beer in hand, gaunt, toothless, incoherently chatting to themself, I don't know their name, so let's just call them LA. LA had a speaker playing fairly loud music, and my 3 year old and her friend went over and started dancing to the music and running rings around LA. LA seemed to genuinely be enjoying the fact the kids were enjoying the music, so it was kind of harmonious. Me and the other mum kept trying to tell the kids this wasn't the right person to play with, but they kept running over. Eventually I went over with the kids and I really didn't feel comfortable getting too close to LA, and didn't want to strike up conversation because they were just to in their own world and I didn't know what would happen if I tried to chat. So I told the kids we were going to play musical statues and took them back to where the other mum was and played a game with them there and that kept them from running back to LA. I genuinely wanted to have a word with LA to say I don't want my kid playing with a stranger who is clearly not sober and could they listen to their music elsewhere. Am I being unreasonable? And what could I have done differently to keep the kids safe and not be a jerk in front of LA?

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Andoutcomethewolves · 24/06/2025 14:58

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 24/06/2025 14:32

Is there not a restriction in the playground? I.e. children under 11 or 12 and parents of playing children only?

If not, there ought to be.

I really doubt he was. The original post said 'park'. It was only when OP didn't like some of the responses that it became 'in the playground'

KoiTetra · 24/06/2025 14:56

dilemmaemmaemma · 24/06/2025 11:39

@Icedlattepleaseno, I want an addict to stop hanging out in the children's playground

Was the person actually inside a fenced playground? If so then yes 100% you would be fine to ask them to leave.

If they were outside the playground or just in the vicinity of a playground then no they are entitled to be there too.

AmberTurtles · 24/06/2025 14:47

Wow you really are a nasty, judgemental piece of work!

Having worked with people with drug problems for many, many years, I'd rather have my children around someone who was happily playing music and whose company your children were enjoying, than someone like you. You are the problem, not this gentleman! 😡

THEP0PE · 24/06/2025 14:45

lol

how lovely that your children don’t show the prejudice you do OP

LA is no more likely to do something to your children than respectable uncle Bob.

ps watch out for uncle Bob

CinnamonBuns67 · 24/06/2025 14:41

I understand in terms of not wanting your child around someone under the influence of drugs/alcohol but yabu to try and say he can't be somewhere when he's not causing harm to anyone, I think he was very kind to your children when they approached him. You control what you do, not what others do. If you didn't want your child there with him and your child wasn't listening to your instructions you should have took them elsewhere. I also think the way you've spoke about him is quite unkind op, him being "gaunt" and "toothless" shouldn't be part of the issue you have so didn't need mentioning, remember just because he's made bad choices doesn't mean he's a bad person so he doesn't deserve you speaking in a degrading way about him.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 24/06/2025 14:32

dilemmaemmaemma · 24/06/2025 12:03

They started off in the kids playground, and then moved on to the field outside the nursery which is always full of under 5s at that time of day (it was the end of the nursery day). They seemed to be actively encouraging the kids to come dance to the music with them.

Is there not a restriction in the playground? I.e. children under 11 or 12 and parents of playing children only?

If not, there ought to be.

zingally · 24/06/2025 14:31

dilemmaemmaemma · 24/06/2025 12:09

This is the first time I've seen something like this has happen at that park.

Then chalk it up as one of the myriad random one-offs you'll have as part of your childrearing journey, shrug and move on.

If you didn't like the experience, go elsewhere or take more control of your child.

HoppingPavlova · 24/06/2025 14:27

and my 3 year old and her friend went over and started dancing to the music and running rings around LA

So, this happened in a public park, and LA did not approach the children, but your children ran off and approached them. What do you want LA to stop doing? Maybe be stop your kids from running off?

we repeatedly told the kids to stop going over to LA, and they ignored us

That’s for you to control as a parent, not a random in a park to control for you.

Truly staggering.

LimitedBrightSpots · 24/06/2025 14:22

SporadicMincePieMuncher · 24/06/2025 13:48

"People without children shouldn't be in fenced play areas imo"

They weren't.

The OP says that they started off in the kids playground.

DiscoBob · 24/06/2025 14:08

Firstly to put aside the fact you allege he's an addict.

But he was playing music in the park, minding his own business, and nothing bad happened when your kids went over.

You were supervising them and it's up to you to just tell them not to bother the guy.

He hasn't got two heads, and hasn't done anything wrong.

Energywise · 24/06/2025 14:04

dilemmaemmaemma · 24/06/2025 11:46

@PhilippaGeorgiou we repeatedly told the kids to stop going over to LA, and they ignored us, which is why I just set up another activity for them so they had something else fun to do. I think they're too young to understand stranger danger, they're only 3. I'm not sure what else I could have done really. What would you have done?

You could actually parent . Give them a warning of going home for not listening and then pick them up and take them home for not listening.

BringOle · 24/06/2025 14:02

ummm you could have moved further along?

partyboat356 · 24/06/2025 14:00

YABU

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Endofyear · 24/06/2025 13:57

dilemmaemmaemma · 24/06/2025 11:46

@PhilippaGeorgiou we repeatedly told the kids to stop going over to LA, and they ignored us, which is why I just set up another activity for them so they had something else fun to do. I think they're too young to understand stranger danger, they're only 3. I'm not sure what else I could have done really. What would you have done?

Surely it's up to you to make sure your children do as they're told? If my children didn't do as they were told we left the park.

PhilippaGeorgiou · 24/06/2025 13:51

dilemmaemmaemma · 24/06/2025 12:11

Yeah, this is what I'm getting at. It's really hard to know, but it seemed LA might have been targeting the kids. I wouldn't want to get the law involved for a one off ambiguous situation like this, but do you think I should call the police if I see LA trying to engage my kid in play again?

Oh FFS, you were very clear that LA was simply sitting playing their music and it was your kids that approached them repeatedly. Suddenly we have you (and a few others) deciding this is predatory behaviour and he's trying to groom your 3 year olds!!!!

MN continues to demonstrate the insanity of some of the population.

Avantiagain · 24/06/2025 13:50

Of course it isn't wise to let this kind of interaction carry on because of unpredictable behaviour and obviously you know nothing about the stranger but it's likely the person was just enjoying interacting with children the way most people enjoy interaction with children.

Starlight1984 · 24/06/2025 13:50

dilemmaemmaemma · 24/06/2025 12:51

I don't know the sex of LA, this is why. I'm not being coy, genuinely was hard to place so saying 'they' seemed easiest.

So you know this person well enough to describe them as the "local, multi substance addict" yet don't know whether they are male or female?

Ok then....

DeSoleil · 24/06/2025 13:48

A troubled person minding their own business has two random children run up to him and dance and play around him and you want to moderate his behaviour?

Just call your children back or if too young to understand, go and get them and lead them away.

SporadicMincePieMuncher · 24/06/2025 13:48

LimitedBrightSpots · 24/06/2025 13:41

People without children shouldn't be in fenced play areas imo. During COVID when indoor gyms were shut, our playground was taken over for a few weeks by thwarted gym-goers who brought mats, weights and other gym equipment and used the monkey bars for pull-ups and then shouted at toddlers for tripping over their stuff. Eventually a couple of the dads told them where to go and threatened to call the police on them if they didn't get out, so they left which all us regulars were pleased about.

Although LA doesn't sound obnoxious like that and sounds quite friendly, I agree with you that they shouldn't be in a fenced play area without a child. Those spaces are meant solely for children and those supervising them. If LA was just in the park, which has some play equipment accessible, then that's more doubtful as any member of the public has an equal right to access public space not intended for a particular group.

"People without children shouldn't be in fenced play areas imo"

They weren't.

LadyLucyWells · 24/06/2025 13:46

I can't see how the person being the 'local addict' is relevant (unless they are known for being violent or predatory). You could know someone for years and not know that they have a drug addiction; you never really know who else locally is a drug addict.

You were supervising closely which is really all that matters and you distracted the children after a time. And presumably you teach your child about how to behave around strangers. I would have done the same as you did in this scenario.

ExercicenformedeZ · 24/06/2025 13:44

YABU. It's not as if this person approached the children, they approached him. I'm not an addict, but I actually find it annoying when kids approach me because I feel that there is a very precise level of interaction which is acceptable: if you are too friendly, that might seem weird or overstepping, not friendly enough and you're accused of being a grinch. At the end of the day, there was no harm done, but you shouldn't let your kids just approach people. Especially not if you're then going to get annoyed that those people interact with them.

LimitedBrightSpots · 24/06/2025 13:41

People without children shouldn't be in fenced play areas imo. During COVID when indoor gyms were shut, our playground was taken over for a few weeks by thwarted gym-goers who brought mats, weights and other gym equipment and used the monkey bars for pull-ups and then shouted at toddlers for tripping over their stuff. Eventually a couple of the dads told them where to go and threatened to call the police on them if they didn't get out, so they left which all us regulars were pleased about.

Although LA doesn't sound obnoxious like that and sounds quite friendly, I agree with you that they shouldn't be in a fenced play area without a child. Those spaces are meant solely for children and those supervising them. If LA was just in the park, which has some play equipment accessible, then that's more doubtful as any member of the public has an equal right to access public space not intended for a particular group.

FOJN · 24/06/2025 13:39

dilemmaemmaemma · 24/06/2025 12:03

They started off in the kids playground, and then moved on to the field outside the nursery which is always full of under 5s at that time of day (it was the end of the nursery day). They seemed to be actively encouraging the kids to come dance to the music with them.

Why are you changing the story? At first the children kept running over and now he/she was encouraging them like some addict pied piper. I think you are trying to give the impression that the drunk person had sinister motives. Whether they did or didn't it's still your job to keep your children safe.

I didn't think anyone thinks it's unreasonable to not want your children around strangers who are intoxicated but you cannot police admittance to shared public spaces. You manage your concern by supervising your children properly or moving playtime somewhere else if you don't think you can maintain their safety where you are.

TruthOrAlethiometer · 24/06/2025 13:39

You pick up your kid and you leave! I cannot believe you stayed and allowed your kid to do that. You even said that you watched her running over to him and you didn’t follow right away because you didn’t want to get too close to him. So you just stood there?! My God.

If you cannot control your child or teach to stay away from someone them then you pick them up and leave. You start teaching them now, from this age, that if they don’t do as they are told then you will leave, no matter how much fun they are having. You were completely inept. Go on a parenting course.