Gender swap situation

Actually, these are all terms for known biochemical responses. They're not just feelings.

It really is.

There are no observable, objective or measurable facts associated with ‘trans’. Therefore it is an ideology.

It is an ideology that requires people to believe the unbelievable and speak words they know to be untrue.

Hence the only way of making people participate is by bullying or making false claims for their sympathy.

You can only identify as a thing that you are not, so it’s akin to pretending.
I can’t identify as a woman because I am one.
Only a man can be a transwoman. A woman can’t be a transwoman. The only prerequisite for being a transwoman is to be a man.
Only a woman can produce eggs and reproduce when her egg is fertilised by sperm from a man. A transwoman aka a man, can never ever do that.
Trans is a costume.
Humans need to reproduce or we die out. Men can’t reproduce with trans women.
Identity is ultimately meaningless.
So Sally who wants to be Ron is just a fantasy. She will remain biologically Sally until she dies.

But what are these people actually ‘identifying’ as?

If you have removed the objective meaning of a man being an adult human male by saying that a man is anyone who identifies as a man, what is it that these female people think they are?

And gender ideology can’t exist without sex based stereotypes.

Sexuality, hunger and pain are not internal feelings. They are physical sensations that serve a function, urging us to have sex, to fuel our bodies, and to alert us when we are ill or injured. They are not driven by our emotions but by biology. So I don't think your comparison works.

Being gay means being same sex attracted. It is physically demostrated by which sex arouses you.

On the other hand, trans means what exactly? Demonstrated by what exactly?

Sexuality is a biological reaction not some abstract esoteric internal feeling
(Hint its all about sexual reproduction in humans.)

Hunger is a biological reaction because humans need to source food and water to live

Pain is guess what ?
(Hint a biological reaction)

Oxford Dictionary definition of ideology -

Any wide-ranging system of beliefs, ways of thought, and categories that provide the foundation of programmes of political and social action: an ideology is a conceptual scheme with a practical application.

Believing you should be treated as the opposite sex in all circumstances without consideration of the consent and detriment of those of that sex is most definitely an ideology.

Being in pain, being gay, and being hungry are nothing like claiming to have a trans identity. Those things also do not involve appropriation and harming others.

it’s got nothing to do with “denying reality”. That’s entirely your projection.

Trans people understand what their chromosomes are, it doesn’t change the experience/ fact of being trans. Just as gay people understand what genitals /
reproductive anatomy they have, it doesn’t change the experience/ fact of being gay.

Do any of those require a denial of reality?

Did you miss the OPs child is trying to use the name but not getting much out of the friendship?

But she should at 14 taught to be supressing her needs and wants in the friendship, to be a support system for someone who has her feeling like she is walking on eggshells and display empathy by pretending the girl is actually a boy just because she said so?

Yet even after 11 years you still cant always use your sons new name and are being "transphobic" by using the name you picked ?

Just because something is based on “internal feelings” does not mean it’s an “ideology”.

Again:

Sexuality is about internal feelings. Not an ideology.

Hunger is an internal feeling. Not an ideology.

Pain is an internal feeling. Not an ideology.

Some men will fetishise anything, there are no limits or surprises.

really? are they claiming to be trans?

Keep talking OP. Parents should never be silenced when talking about how to support their children.

We're in this mess as trans ideology started with #nodebate - no questions, discussions or challenge allowed. The overreach of activists in targeting children has been catastrophic. Now that debate is happening, it's so important that we work out how to support them through this - both the vulnerable victims and their peers.

Hope that your DD and her friend get through all this.

The other girl is controlling and abusive.

We do get white British men dressing up in burqas with stockings and suspenders underneath, playing pretend that they're oppressed, though...

And the other thing is that this is a luxury belief.

If Sally lived in Afghanistan and identified as a boy , would it gain her an education?

I can hardly imagine many boys and men are queuing up to identify as women in countries where women are oppressed. I don't get it. If the disconnect is so important that they must live their lives as though they are the opposite sex you would think there would be equal numbers of trans identifying people all over the world, yet there are not.

There are large numbers of trans identifying males in countries where it is illegal to be gay, that's hardly surprising really.

You forgot to add disabled, pregnant, religious and divorced

Things that people do to be "trans" - tell themselves they are in the wrong body, tell other people they are changing their name/pronouns. Change name, clothes, hair, make-up, posture, movement, voice, hormones to fit with a sex stereotype (or their version of it).

The above may or may not be accompanied by gender dysmorphia or AGP (in men).

People who experience gender dysmorphia or AGP may do none of the above and not call themselves "trans".

Essentially it's a lifestyle choice, a paraphilia or an illness.

I was just thinking that if (for the purposes of the argument) 6 stone Sally identified as fat and starved herself as a result, then she would likely be diagnosed with an eating disorder and offered treatment.

If she is white but identified as black, that would be considered completely unacceptable and she would be censured for appropriating another race and culture.

But if she were to identify as an overweight, black man, only the first two parts of that descriptor would be considered wrong by the TRAs. Thinking you're something you're not and expecting other people to collude in the delusion is wrong, so long ... as doesn't involve gender.

Make it make sense.

The op said something about they couldn’t introduce themselves as x then 10 years later or whatever suddenly expect them to call them this new name. There’s the comparison.

@Tillow4everthis is not just a simple name change. False comparison.

My son, in year 6, decided he wanted to be known by his middle name instead of his first name that we’d been using for the last 11 years. Every single one of his friends managed that with no problem at all. His teachers also did it without slipping up. I occasionally forgot out of habit of using his former name but always corrected myself.

This is nothing to do with how easy it is to do it/remember it. This is purely down to your beliefs on gender, and you don’t agree with your daughter’s friend coming out as trans. You are entitled to your beliefs, just don’t try to make out it’s just too hard. If your best friend got married, you’d call her by her new married name if she choose to take her husbands surname. Likewise if she got divorced and chose to revert to a maiden name you’d use that.

Personally I’d be encouraging my child to have some empathy and support their friend right now. If calling him Ron makes him happy go with it. Encourage your child to apologise if they use the wrong name. I’m sure Ron can tell it’s transphobia otherwise. That said, if your child doesn’t want to continue the friendship because they don’t feel comfortable confiding in someone that identifies as male now, that’s their prerogative too. I’d still encourage them to use their new name.