Gender swap situation

If you read the thread you would know that the child in question is demanding that OPs DC uses wrong sex pronouns in face to face conversation with said friend. Which, as we all know, is rude.

Maybe just read the thread before jumping to dismiss or contradict everyone on the issues?

Brand new twin study published in Scientific Reports.

Might be of interest @marshmallowpuff

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-025-06265-6#:~:text=Based%20on%20a%201%25%20population,genetic%20contribution%20to%20gender%20diversity.

Perhaps you don't understand posting in a forum. We can talk about what we like within guidelines. Report my post if you think there's a problem with it.

How often do you use your friends pronouns when you are talking to her. The 14 year old will probably grow out of this phase if people stop making a big deal of it.

But adds nothing to what the OP was concerned about. If you want to discuss men in women's spaces you could start a thread about that although there are plenty without pushing out a discussion about 2 girls aged 14.

It's very long however. But chunked down into more manageable segments.

For anyone who wants to understand this whole topic better, this is the best and clearest piece I've seen in terms of understanding where we are and how we got here ...

https://artymorty.substack.com/p/the-war-to-annihilate-sex

A name is one thing but compelling a child to go against everything they know to refer to another child by wrong sex pronouns is controlling.

The conversation has moved on in many directions as you may notice if you read the whole thread.

This is a thread about a 14 year old girl who is identifying as a boy.

How is using the name someone chooses an issue for the OPs daughter? Why would anyone have an instinct to force a name on someone against their will?

In my experience lots of tweens or early teens choose a different version of their name or a nickname they like.

Making this a big thing isn't nice for either child.

It's impossible to know if they're a large or small group.

Perhaps understandably, the powers that be don't want to find out.

But women are being asked to accommodate these men in their spaces regardless. And we're 'bigots' for saying no to that according to some.

There is no special trans guarantee that trans identified men only have good intentions. That is manifestly not the case.

I think you live in a cave if you think these make up a huge part of the trans community.

marshmallowpuff · 29/06/2025 14:59

No, I wasn't addressing you! It was a response to Tandy, who said that she's an academic.

Crikey this thread did move on.

Elagabalus, a Roman Emperor being a trans woman, is laugh out loud funny. Even the BBC don't take that claim seriously, it's in the Entertainment and Arts section!!

And Wikipedia as a valid source Tandora, I thought you were supposed to hold a phd in gender studies?

My goodness.

But the whole point is that is doesn't matter to women how some male people do or not feel.

Women's rights should not be dependent on a man's feelings. No matter how a man/ trans woman feels about themselves should give them the right to make female people feel uncomfortable in single sex spaces.

Otherwise all you are interested is the purported harm to this subset of men and you don't give a fuck about the implications and harms of that on females.

And before you say this ignores Trans Men, female people do not pose the same risks to men.

I realise the thread has moved on since this post but it really doesn't matter why the male person thinks he is a woman. He isn't.

I had the laugh button used against me maliciously (didn't report it)

But honestly there is part of me that wishes it was still around, however we still have 😂so I don't think its too much of a loss really if you want to make the same point. You just can't be a coward when you do it. Its there for everyone to see.

I do rather wish they’d left us the laugh button, don’t you?

'Fervently posting in support of trans rights'? I think your reading comprehension skills may need a bit of work. If you disagree, here's a little test for you: try finding ONE example on this thread of my having stated ANY opinion either pro or anti trans rights. No, you can't, can you, because the ONLY thing I have been calling out on this thread is the arrogance and inability of some posters to accept points of view that aren't theirs. This imaginary link you have drawn between my calling out arrogance and being a TRA is exactly that - imaginary, based on nothing except the fact that I am not voicing active intolerance towards trans people. Quite ironic really given that you were the one using the words 'pretendy fantasy' upthread.

And yes, as it goes, I do feel it's OK for me to react with sarcasm to someone repeatedly trying to put words in my mouth and attack me over things they incorrectly perceive me to believe. Incidentally, regarding someone as not being funny, when are in fact not being funny, doesn't qualify as a 'sense of humour fail'.

Saying a poster is a trans rights activist when they’re fervently posting in support of trans rights is a twisted interpretation? “Over the line”? But you’re going about making sarcastic posts and that’s OK?

See point about sense of humour failure again…and add “likes to dish it out but can’t take it”.

That's over the line. You don't get to call someone a TRA (or call them anything else for that matter) based solely on whatever twisted interpretation you choose to put on their words.

That is exactly my point. We are supposed to be there aren't any creepy weirdos who claim to be transwomen.

That's the elephant in the room we are not supposed to notice.

For every 'nice' trans person, unfortunately there are the grifters who ruin for everyone.

I hope you don’t mean me - I certainly didn’t! I don’t think Tandora is an academic.

Hmm. An academic giving a thoroughgoing recommendation for Wikipedia. What next, having AI write for them?

Are there any less reliable sources? Pink News, maybe.