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Breakdown in friend group - who is right?

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Tornad · 24/06/2025 09:00

I’m not either of these two people.

P, W and 3 others have been friend since school, almost 30 years. Now all getting married, having children, etc. Don’t live locally to one another but still close and see each other very regularly (almost always as a group or one-on-one - i.e. we would never meet up as a three or a four without everyone being invited).

W has always been high maintenance as a friend. She expects us to be there for her, get birthday presents, attend birthday events, etc. She also gives out the same energy. She will always organise gifts,I’ve heaven and earth to attend special moments and be on the end of the phone. So, she’s not a hypocrite or a taker. She just expects a lot from friendship in general.

P has always been more relaxed. Unreliable, late to things, forgets things, doesn’t respond for months at a time, didn’t hear her phone… but she’s really fun to be around. Witty, cool, energetic. But, since having her own kids, P has also become quite high maintenance. Everything is a drama, the world is ending every couple of weeks, everything revolves around her DS. She’s very “crunchy mum” and makes her opinions known on our parenting and nutrition. I’m hoping this will pass because I wouldn’t befriend her if I met her now.

Anyway. W is pregnant and being induced early. She hasn’t said but I assume this is for medical reasons. They don’t tend to induce early just for fun. The date for the induction is P’s birthday. P is furious about this. She thinks that W has done this on purpose to usurp her birthday. She has vowed to never speak to W again and says that it’s “the final straw”.

My initial thought is that P is being ridiculous but, the more I think about it, W has always made a big deal out of birthdays and now P won’t be W’s focus on her birthday, her DD/DS will be.

Who is right here?

OP posts:
Viviennemary · 24/06/2025 09:21

You all sound a bit nuts tbh.

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 24/06/2025 09:18

In what way does P anticipate W's baby's birthday impacting her own? I'm not aware of many young children's birthdays that comprise much more than popping over with a present and maybe helping blow out some candles, bit of bouncy castle action? And then P can have her birthday celebrations afterwards?

What, apart from Main Character Syndrome, is P's problem?

sonoonetoldyoulifewasgonnabethisway · 24/06/2025 09:18

Unless the hospital gave W a choice of dates and she specifically picked Ps date then she has not choice. There is also no guarantee baby will come on that date. So, did she pick that date on purpose? (I don't know if you get a choice)

My DS was induced and came 4 days later.

ReproachfulOwl · 24/06/2025 09:18

Tornad · 24/06/2025 09:11

I absolutely did list out good things about W.

“She also gives out the same energy. She will always organise gifts, move heaven and earth to attend special moments and be on the end of the phone. So, she’s not a hypocrite or a taker.”

I also listed issues with P. If anything, I put in P’s good traits to avoid the responses I was expecting of “why on earth would be friends with her for so long?”

Edited

But their good or bad traits are completely irrelevant. Surely you can see this?

If W and P were both neo-Nazis who regularly mugged OAPs for drug money, the situation would be unaltered. No one gets induced early on a specific date to piss off someone else.

romdowa · 24/06/2025 09:17

Chances are we won't actually give birth on the day she's induced anyway. It's a long process, so it's more than likely going to be the next day. So p can relax

DoubleTimeStep · 24/06/2025 09:16

So, what do you think op?

WhatDidIComeInThisRoomFor · 24/06/2025 09:16

So P who has never bothered about other peoples feelings is now hurt and giving out because of this. And P is someone you wouldn’t befriend now? And P is saying they won’t speak to W again because of this perceived injustice.

So the silver lining is you declare yourself team W and rid yourself of P surely. And hope the rest of the group feel the same.

2thumbs · 24/06/2025 09:16

P is being pathetic - you need to tell her this in no uncertain terms

DinaofCloud9 · 24/06/2025 09:16

P is a ridiculous person who needs telling so.

ShesTheAlbatross · 24/06/2025 09:15

I don’t understand why this is even a question. She’s being induced ffs. I wasn’t given a range of dates for my induction.

As an aside, my induction wasn’t started until the evening and DD was born the next day. So the birthdays may not clash. But even if they do, it’s so far from being an issue I can’t believe you’ve had to ask who is being unreasonable!!!

olderbutwiser · 24/06/2025 09:14

As above.

Also, P is not ‘relaxed’. P is selfish, thoughtless, inconsiderate, judgemental and sees the friendship group as low priority.

Motomum23 · 24/06/2025 09:14

If I were you id express this to the 3 non involved friends and if all in agreement make it crystal clear to P that Ws induction is none of her business and if she cuts her out then she risks cutting you all out as you won't stop being friends with W (or possibly I've got my letters mixed up)

Bunnycat101 · 24/06/2025 09:14

I think you and P need to grow the hell up. Induction is no picnic and being induced early suggests there is a problem. Support your friend instead of bitching about birthdays and who is more important.

As an aside, there is a good chance she won’t give birth on that day. My daughter came 3 days after my early induction and it was a difficult and challenging birth. I don’t think I’d ever speak to anyone again who started moaning about the date of my induction.

FlipFlopShopInHawaii · 24/06/2025 09:13

lnks · 24/06/2025 09:02

P is extremely unreasonable. W can’t choose exactly which day to be induced.

Edited to add,’I think you are also being unreasonable to even be considering that P is being unfair

Edited

As is common, first reply nails it.

ConcernedOfClapham · 24/06/2025 09:12

I love the sound of original P. 🙂

But it sounds like parenthood has changed her immeasurably, and she has become somebody I’d be distancing myself from more and more.

P is definitely the unreasonable one here, spoilt-child-mode I’m afraid.

I hope all goes well for W 🤞 x

Scottishskifun · 24/06/2025 09:12

P needs to give her head a good wobble! You don't get to choose induction dates and they don't induce early for no reason.

W will already be a bit anxious and P is being the opposite of a friend piling anything further onto her!

user1492757084 · 24/06/2025 09:12

P is massively weird.
Convince her that W has little choice if she wants to deliver a live baby.

Remind P that it is so special to have a baby born on one's birthday. Tell her that she is very lucky and to stop being a first rate cow..

Tornad · 24/06/2025 09:11

rrrrrreatt · 24/06/2025 09:07

Surely this is a joke? P is a grown up, they should be mature enough to share their birthday with a child.

I hope W makes some new friends. You list out P’s redeeming personality traits but not W, P is so self centred they assume W’s induction is about her and neither of you seem to even consider how W might feel about waiting to be induced or going through birth.

I absolutely did list out good things about W.

“She also gives out the same energy. She will always organise gifts, move heaven and earth to attend special moments and be on the end of the phone. So, she’s not a hypocrite or a taker.”

I also listed issues with P. If anything, I put in P’s good traits to avoid the responses I was expecting of “why on earth would be friends with her for so long?”

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Fluffyholeysocks · 24/06/2025 09:11

I can't understand why people get upset about their friends carrying on with their lives just because it's their birthday. Since when did the world have to stop for an adults birthday? It's all a bit silly.

Vaxtable · 24/06/2025 09:10

P is totally being unreasonable. As a mother she should know that a baby would not be being induced early for no reason and should in fact be expressing concern for the friend that this is happening not be issued of because it’s also her birthday

i would be saying exactly that to P

edited to add you dint sound like much of a fiend if you ar also concerned about Ps birthday

Hopefully W makes better friends that both you and P

latetothefisting · 24/06/2025 09:10

lnks · 24/06/2025 09:02

P is extremely unreasonable. W can’t choose exactly which day to be induced.

Edited to add,’I think you are also being unreasonable to even be considering that P is being unfair

Edited

Love it when the very first post completely captures your thoughts! I was thinking "wow you're really scraping to even try to find something W has done wrong." It's like on reddit aita when they have to try and put the alternative side across to be allowed to post.

Obviously p is completely unreasonable and slightly insane. She would have been equally unreasonable even if W had actively chosen her induction date for non medical reasons (because who prioritises a friends bday over the birth of your child?!), or if their personalities had been reversed so that P was always the one who had made a big deal out of birthdays and W knew that.

Tell P to get a grip. Tbh even if she was in the right she sounds annoying so her losing her friendship wouldn't be a great loss.

MedievalNun · 24/06/2025 09:10

Bloody hell. W is being induced early - which as you correctly state is most likely for medical reasons, and you’re worried she’s doing it to piss off P? Because of course that’s her main concern.

There is no way in hell that’s the reason. Also, even if she’s induced on that day, she might not actually give birth for up to 24 hours so baby won’t necessarily have the same birthday as P.

If you’re as much of a friend to W as you say, see what you can do to help. She’s most likely worrying about having to be induced, she doesn’t need the other drama.

IAmNotPrepared · 24/06/2025 09:09

P is being utterly ridiculous and it is absolutely bizarre you even need to ask. She sounds bloody exhausting.

ReproachfulOwl · 24/06/2025 09:08

And you’re posting this why? Are you contemplating some kind of friendship intervention where you beg W to change her induction date if people on here say ‘Actually, P has a point’?

ChaToilLeam · 24/06/2025 09:07

P is an absolute twit. This is about W's child coming into the world safely, surely the first concern of any kind of friend would be that mother and baby are okay? Early inductions aren't done for laughs.

Prepare for an implosion in your friendship group if P continues to make this all about her. If one of my friends carried on like this, I'd be distancing myself from her.

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