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To wonder why people fuck about so much?

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comeandhaveteawithme · 23/06/2025 14:40

My local skip is a very busy place. There is often a huge queue of cars and once you are in the queue, you absolutely cannot leave, there is no way of driving out of it or turning around due to the way it's structured. You're going through the skip, and that's that.

Today, I was in the queue of doom and a worker walked along the line of cars and told everyone that they just needed to use the crusher before they could let anyone through and to do that, they needed to wait until the cars already parked up and using the skips, had all left, then they could use the crusher and start letting people in again. It was my lunchbreak so I was in a bit of a rush, but nothing I could do.

But watching the people already using the skip was so irritating. They knew there was a line of approximately 20-30 cars waiting, they knew no one else could enter until every car had gone, but they all sauntered back and forth with their stuff from their boots, they stopped and chatted to one another, one guy had a quick cigarette before getting in his car, another sat in the drivers seat and did something on his phone before slowly putting on his seatbelt and leaving...

I just cannot understand people who are so incredibly slow and insist on doing unnecessary things in busy places where people are clearly waiting to use the thing they are using.

The other day, a waitress bringing our food to out table stopped mid-way and chatted to a customer she knew, while holding our plates of food, letting them get cold - why? talk on the way back if you must!

And the amount of people I see letting their toddlers use their debit cards to pay while smiling indulgently as the kids drops the card or taps it wrong with a queue of people waiting, or who stand at the till transferring money, or ask the bus driver an endless series of questions with a whole busload of people waiting, plus the 50 cars behind the bus....

If you are one of these people who fuck about, why? and are you also irritated by the fucking about or am I just far too angry?

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TulipTiptoer · 25/06/2025 10:43

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 25/06/2025 08:48

You said it drives you potty and called it inane. That's rude. They're doing their job. They're told to try and make conversation because it might be the only conversation someone has. It's also highly boring for them to just sit there silently not speaking to customers (and you can bet people would complain about that too).

In my youth I worked at so many retail places, often on checkouts. It's part of their role. You finding it inane doesn't change that. Someone else finding it faffy doesn't change that.

I have a friend who has worked on Tesco checkout for over 30 years. Yes, they are told to be pleasant because they are customer facing. No more than that. Not to make lots of conversation

I have worked in retail too, a totally different area. We learnt to judge whether a customer wanted to chat. Or not.
Yes it's inane when not welcomed
And yes it drives me potty
I doubt I can get through a shop with a manned till without someone wanting to discuss my shopping with me.

comeandhaveteawithme · 25/06/2025 10:26

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 25/06/2025 10:20

Your "line" is this entire thread. Not just about that one mother. You have made it very clear that people who behave differently to you are irritating and have even said they should go live away from all other people.

That's the line I'm talking about.

Yes, they should. Not if they're disabled, not if they're elderly, not for any of the perfectly reasonable reasons someone might be slower that me. Not once have I said that. In fact, I would be the first person to stick up for these people and show them consideration. I was stuck behind an old lady with a zimmer frame in home bargains the other day while in a rush to buy pull-ups so I could drop off my daughter for her sleepover and get to work. She turned and apologised for being so slow. Did I shout at her? did I tell her to go and live on her own in the sticks? did I kick her up the bum? No, I kept a respectable distance, I kept an eye in case she needed help, and I said "don't worry love, take as long as you need". Basic manners we should expect from everyone.

All I have said, in simple terms, is that if you can't show consideration to other people and only want to think of yourself, then don't live with other people.

And I stand by that.

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IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 25/06/2025 10:20

comeandhaveteawithme · 25/06/2025 10:18

Nope, my line is quite simply "don't change a nappy in a doorway while people are leaving and then get irate when people want to go through that doorway, then slow down on purpose". Quite reasonable really. I missed my bus home with a toddler who needed to get back for lunch and a nap because she made a ridiculous, thoughtless decision and then purposefully doubled down and held everyone up - on purpose.

I have said multiple times now on this thread that I understand some people are slower than me and they often can't help it. It's the fucking about and the not giving a shit who you hold up that irritates me. Don't live in a town with other people, enjoying all the conveniences that brings, if you can't be considerate to others around you.

Your "line" is this entire thread. Not just about that one mother. You have made it very clear that people who behave differently to you are irritating and have even said they should go live away from all other people.

That's the line I'm talking about.

comeandhaveteawithme · 25/06/2025 10:18

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 25/06/2025 10:12

I'll keep my line, thanks. You can drop the "everyone else must do things at my speed and at my convenience" line instead.

Nope, my line is quite simply "don't change a nappy in a doorway while people are leaving and then get irate when people want to go through that doorway, then slow down on purpose". Quite reasonable really. I missed my bus home with a toddler who needed to get back for lunch and a nap because she made a ridiculous, thoughtless decision and then purposefully doubled down and held everyone up - on purpose.

I have said multiple times now on this thread that I understand some people are slower than me and they often can't help it. It's the fucking about and the not giving a shit who you hold up that irritates me. Don't live in a town with other people, enjoying all the conveniences that brings, if you can't be considerate to others around you.

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IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 25/06/2025 10:13

BlockedItOut · 25/06/2025 10:09

She was irritable when asked to move. I don’t think other people were the ones being unreasonable here.

And telling strangers has no impact on her whatsoever. People vent about all sorts to strangers on here; I don’t see what the issue is. I am guessing you have on occasion too, unless you are more saintly than other people.

Consideration is needed by everyone. Those in a rush and those who take their time. Nobody should get a free pass to be selfish, without good reason. We should all be considerate.

We should. I just don't think that all the consideration needs to be for the people who want to move at a faster speed to others.

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 25/06/2025 10:12

comeandhaveteawithme · 25/06/2025 09:55

It happened when my eldest was a toddler, he is now 12. I don't imagine she remembers it and I didn't name her (I don't know her name), nor do any of you know who I am, where I live, or which toddler group it was or even if I'm telling the truth.

So you can drop the "poor lady being talked about by a bunch of strangers, how horrible for her" line. I'm sure she's fine.

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I'll keep my line, thanks. You can drop the "everyone else must do things at my speed and at my convenience" line instead.

BlockedItOut · 25/06/2025 10:09

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 25/06/2025 08:45

I wouldn't. But I also wouldn't be so frustrated by it I had to tell a load of strangers how terrible she was. If have asked her if she needed help moving out of the exit or with the nappy.

There is no point being so upset with strangers not doing what you would that you need to rant about them to other strangers, and then be affronted that people don't agree with you.

She was irritable when asked to move. I don’t think other people were the ones being unreasonable here.

And telling strangers has no impact on her whatsoever. People vent about all sorts to strangers on here; I don’t see what the issue is. I am guessing you have on occasion too, unless you are more saintly than other people.

Consideration is needed by everyone. Those in a rush and those who take their time. Nobody should get a free pass to be selfish, without good reason. We should all be considerate.

comeandhaveteawithme · 25/06/2025 09:55

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 25/06/2025 08:45

I wouldn't. But I also wouldn't be so frustrated by it I had to tell a load of strangers how terrible she was. If have asked her if she needed help moving out of the exit or with the nappy.

There is no point being so upset with strangers not doing what you would that you need to rant about them to other strangers, and then be affronted that people don't agree with you.

It happened when my eldest was a toddler, he is now 12. I don't imagine she remembers it and I didn't name her (I don't know her name), nor do any of you know who I am, where I live, or which toddler group it was or even if I'm telling the truth.

So you can drop the "poor lady being talked about by a bunch of strangers, how horrible for her" line. I'm sure she's fine.

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DelboytrottersDnecklace · 25/06/2025 09:49

comeandhaveteawithme · 25/06/2025 09:45

I'm just jealous your after school clubs go on until 6:30pm! Mine close at 5pm sharp.

My lot are now grown up but I remember a group of (sharp elbowed) parents protesting with the school to change it from 5pm to 6pm and then half past

The amazing lady who ran it said 'no later,I have a life too' (which was more than fair enough)

I was beyond grateful-my lot adored her

comeandhaveteawithme · 25/06/2025 09:45

DelboytrottersDnecklace · 24/06/2025 19:01

I knew the parents where still there at half 6 as I would be racing down the road,trying not to be late to pick the kids up from after school club

Pissed me off,having to push them out of the way so I wouldn't get into trouble for being late (I never was,but I was scared of being that person)

I'm just jealous your after school clubs go on until 6:30pm! Mine close at 5pm sharp.

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comeandhaveteawithme · 25/06/2025 09:41

saltinesandcoffeecups · 24/06/2025 18:33

You think I was going to take the time to edit that nonsense? I think I was over generous to write it all out for your amusement in the first place considering I already lived it!

EDIT: never mind go with what @Namechangerage said that makes it sound intentional and clever 🤣

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I 100% thought "carmel" was done on purpose because of the American pronunciation. That couple was already American to me in my head before I got to "carmel" 😆

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IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 25/06/2025 08:48

TulipTiptoer · 25/06/2025 07:22

I wasn't rude?

I said I smiled. I said I was warm and polite. But I didn't extend the conversation because I didn't feel it was fair on the people in the queue behind me
You would not think I was rude if you met me, I just move through quickly and say thank you warmly to the person on the checkout. I just don't want to have conversations about what I am buying in the supermarket.

You said it drives you potty and called it inane. That's rude. They're doing their job. They're told to try and make conversation because it might be the only conversation someone has. It's also highly boring for them to just sit there silently not speaking to customers (and you can bet people would complain about that too).

In my youth I worked at so many retail places, often on checkouts. It's part of their role. You finding it inane doesn't change that. Someone else finding it faffy doesn't change that.

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 25/06/2025 08:45

BlockedItOut · 25/06/2025 08:29

Repeating my question to you in case you missed it first time. Apologies if I missed your response. This was your answer to someone describing a mum blocking the exit of a baby group to change a nappy, thus making others miss the bus. @IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos

Do you think it’s acceptable for a mum to change a nappy at an exit, thus blocking a queue of mums with little kids in prams? Who also may be tired, stressed, busy etc. Would you do that?

I wouldn't. But I also wouldn't be so frustrated by it I had to tell a load of strangers how terrible she was. If have asked her if she needed help moving out of the exit or with the nappy.

There is no point being so upset with strangers not doing what you would that you need to rant about them to other strangers, and then be affronted that people don't agree with you.

BlockedItOut · 25/06/2025 08:29

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 24/06/2025 13:19

You have zero clue what is going on in any of those people's lives though. Sure, some may just be dicks but some might be going through something and therefore just generally unaware of what impact they may be having.

A modicum of compassion costs you nothing except maybe a tiny bit of your time. Which is not more important than theirs, regardless of whether they are deliberately or unknowingly "causing a problem".

And it's only a problem to you. It's not a problem to a lot of people. Some people, even efficient ones, can still see the joy in letting kids pay or that the old widow at the till is loving having someone to chat to, or that the old man at the tip with a couple of items is taking a moment to let go of something he may have had a lifetime.

Have some patience, stress less about it. It can only be good for you.

Repeating my question to you in case you missed it first time. Apologies if I missed your response. This was your answer to someone describing a mum blocking the exit of a baby group to change a nappy, thus making others miss the bus. @IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos

Do you think it’s acceptable for a mum to change a nappy at an exit, thus blocking a queue of mums with little kids in prams? Who also may be tired, stressed, busy etc. Would you do that?

TulipTiptoer · 25/06/2025 07:22

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 25/06/2025 06:19

Some people prefer the human touch (personally I like to be in and out with no chat but you know, we're all different). For some people, that "inane" soup conversation will be the only conversation they have with anyone that day. Which isn't faffing, it's just human to want some form of interaction with other people.

I get enough of that through work, family, friends etc. but am able to appreciate that some people have a different life to me and therefore afford them some compassion.

There's no need to be rude about people just doing their job and trying to get some happiness from it, or those who need that "service".

I wasn't rude?

I said I smiled. I said I was warm and polite. But I didn't extend the conversation because I didn't feel it was fair on the people in the queue behind me
You would not think I was rude if you met me, I just move through quickly and say thank you warmly to the person on the checkout. I just don't want to have conversations about what I am buying in the supermarket.

Myblueclematis · 25/06/2025 06:31

I don't faff about at the till in shops, I dislike self-service so always go to a checkout that's open (thank you Waitrose for always having at least one open). I can still chat occasionally with the operator, I pack, chat then pay and then I'm off. I don't hold anyone up.

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 25/06/2025 06:19

TulipTiptoer · 25/06/2025 04:29

I agree. I am quite a bit older than you. I don't faff. I prefer self service tills, Aldi and Lidl for the speed. I've never faffed, I just like to get on with the boring bits, like shopping, to enjoy the really good bits.
Some people just faff, others don't.

What drives me potty is the inane conversations with the people on checkouts. I am warm and polite, I smile, but I don't want to be asked "oooh, have you tried that soup, What's it like" about a fresh soup I've purchased as it can open up a conversation and that's not fair on the people queuing behind.
I usually answer "no, first time I'm trying it" which means I don't have to listen to how the M&S one is better and how their son loves it but prefers the spicy one

Some people prefer the human touch (personally I like to be in and out with no chat but you know, we're all different). For some people, that "inane" soup conversation will be the only conversation they have with anyone that day. Which isn't faffing, it's just human to want some form of interaction with other people.

I get enough of that through work, family, friends etc. but am able to appreciate that some people have a different life to me and therefore afford them some compassion.

There's no need to be rude about people just doing their job and trying to get some happiness from it, or those who need that "service".

TulipTiptoer · 25/06/2025 04:29

rubicustellitall · 24/06/2025 22:58

I am old infact only a couple of years off being 60 myself..this has nothing to do with age its to do with faffing people of all ages. I do not discriminate!

I agree. I am quite a bit older than you. I don't faff. I prefer self service tills, Aldi and Lidl for the speed. I've never faffed, I just like to get on with the boring bits, like shopping, to enjoy the really good bits.
Some people just faff, others don't.

What drives me potty is the inane conversations with the people on checkouts. I am warm and polite, I smile, but I don't want to be asked "oooh, have you tried that soup, What's it like" about a fresh soup I've purchased as it can open up a conversation and that's not fair on the people queuing behind.
I usually answer "no, first time I'm trying it" which means I don't have to listen to how the M&S one is better and how their son loves it but prefers the spicy one

rubicustellitall · 24/06/2025 22:58

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 24/06/2025 22:46

Maybe one day you will be old…..(except that people who are of your mindset will have introduced a forcible cull at sixty, so you won’t get to experience the joys of old age yourself)

I am old infact only a couple of years off being 60 myself..this has nothing to do with age its to do with faffing people of all ages. I do not discriminate!

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 24/06/2025 22:46

rubicustellitall · 23/06/2025 15:59

Every shop. every pub. every everything where you purchase something takes so long it is infuriating. People know they have to pay so be ready, its easy,its not hard except it seems for faffers who make a huge show of either counting out to the penny or can;t unzip the purse I mean really??
Then if in a pair Derek has to consult Jean and her him..you need potatoes does it really matter just get the bloody potatoes, then a faff of getting a bag for life out of another bag for life omg its endless...

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Maybe one day you will be old…..(except that people who are of your mindset will have introduced a forcible cull at sixty, so you won’t get to experience the joys of old age yourself)

saltinesandcoffeecups · 24/06/2025 21:05

Tigergirl80 · 24/06/2025 20:42

Well most of us have at least 2 hours to kill before boarding our flight. I hate rushing at the airport. I’m there before check in opens. So we usually get fed and watered make use of the free refills then check in as soon as check in opens. So yeah we probably do absente mindedly wander around the airport but never been 1 of those people ranting we can’t get on our flight because we’ve missed check in.

Your airport doesn’t have connecting flights? That’s unusual. Every airport I’ve ever been in has a mix of people arriving, departing, and connecting.

We all know how (at those airports that do connections) never have delays on the arrivals. They never have people who through no fault of their own are sprinting through the terminals trying to get to their gate.

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 24/06/2025 20:46

ThisOchreScroller · 24/06/2025 20:27

You're very defensive, aren't you?

When people are unnecessarily rude to or about people whom they know nothing about? Yep. Love to defend the innocent.

Tigergirl80 · 24/06/2025 20:42

AlpacaMittens · 23/06/2025 22:23

It has probably already been mentioned loads but - people walking slowly and absent mindedly in the airport. Move!!! This really isn't the place to walk around leisurely!

Well most of us have at least 2 hours to kill before boarding our flight. I hate rushing at the airport. I’m there before check in opens. So we usually get fed and watered make use of the free refills then check in as soon as check in opens. So yeah we probably do absente mindedly wander around the airport but never been 1 of those people ranting we can’t get on our flight because we’ve missed check in.

ThisOchreScroller · 24/06/2025 20:27

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 23/06/2025 21:15

I have bad knees and hips. We have severe arthritis in our family. Sitting for extended periods hurts. So we move.

Sorry my pain irritates you.

You're very defensive, aren't you?

RubieChewsDay · 24/06/2025 19:51

AlpacaMittens · 24/06/2025 19:40

Yep it's Luton that traumatised me 😂😭

Knew it 😂

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