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To think Palestine Action isn't a terrorist group?

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NotDarkGothicMama · 23/06/2025 07:28

I don't agree with what they've done (breaking into military bases to vandalise planes), but I don't understand why they're being proscribed. Extinction Rebellion and Just Stop Oil have caused far more damage to property and general annoyance.

Arrest and prosecute the people who commit criminal acts, absolutely, but this is setting the bar for branding protestors "terrorists" far too low.

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ScribblingPixie · 23/06/2025 09:43

cakeorwine · 23/06/2025 08:02

Of course, by that defintion, the Suffragettes were also terrorists.

(Or freedom fighters)

The Suffragettes called themselves terrorists - and they were called terrorists at the time. They used bombs and arson.

PandoraSocks · 23/06/2025 09:38

PickyBits · 23/06/2025 09:25

About time too. These disgusting, unwashed wastes of space should have been cracked down on at least a year and a half ago. Maybe they can go get jobs now if anyone will employ them.

I trust we can expect long prison sentences, the same or longer than the Southport rioters.

What they did was stupid and unacceptable, but the law doesn't work in the way you seem to think it should. They will get the sentences the law allows, not sentences based on comparison to completely different crimes.

PickAChew · 23/06/2025 09:34

Whether you agree with the stance of Palestine action or not, what they did was not lawful, peaceful protest.

Nor was this, which has no doubt been replicated around the country.

Arrests as protesters occupy defence firm's Teesside (sic) factory roof - BBC News share.google/pVqVagXr9Akq0teGz

User37482 · 23/06/2025 09:28

HairyHenrietta · 23/06/2025 09:16

Not tied to Israel. Tied to Israeli arms firms.

So? You don’t get to damage property that belongs to others because something offends you. I find PAG offensive, so it should be fine for me to slash their tyres and set fire to their shit right? I just have to outraged and narcissistic enough that I expect I should be able to do and say whatever I please to whomever and whatever I please. British civil society didn’t get to vote on whether they approved of the trashing or OUR defence equipment, we didn’t get to vote on whether Jewish businesses should be targeted or not. PAG actions are at odds with normal people who don’t like destruction of property or targeting individuals.

The reason western countries used to be functional is because we have some basic laws around property rights and our personal rights as individuals. Once groups and countries no longer enforce these basic civil rights chaos ensues. You don’t get to decide what should be a target for violence and what shouldn’t be. When the state no longer has a monopoly on violence (to physically enforce not random violence)societies destabilise.

People have always disagreed with their governments actions, we get to vote. Use your vote.

PandoraSocks · 23/06/2025 09:26

HairyHenrietta · 23/06/2025 08:58

Funny how this is an act of terrorism for people, whilst flying these planes into Gaza and dropping them on innocent people -children, babies- is not terrorist but you know, defense….Such a fucked up world.

The planes weren't going to be used for that though, were they?

PickyBits · 23/06/2025 09:25

About time too. These disgusting, unwashed wastes of space should have been cracked down on at least a year and a half ago. Maybe they can go get jobs now if anyone will employ them.

I trust we can expect long prison sentences, the same or longer than the Southport rioters.

dogcatkitten · 23/06/2025 09:20

HairyHenrietta · 23/06/2025 09:16

Not tied to Israel. Tied to Israeli arms firms.

Like the BBC? And the RAF?

Dangermoo · 23/06/2025 09:18

The knee jerk emotion that drives pro pal supporters, encapsulated in one post.

HairyHenrietta · 23/06/2025 09:16

User37482 · 23/06/2025 09:11

Oh shit my bad, it’s totally fine to trash someone business of you suspect them of being in any way tied to Israel. Thats totally fine. Listen to yourself.

I’ve decided that I don’t like the actions of France in the Sahel, I’m going to trash any business that imports French goods or that has French ties.

Yeah doesn’t sound reasonable does it.

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Not tied to Israel. Tied to Israeli arms firms.

EasternStandard · 23/06/2025 09:14

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Fitasafiddle1 · 23/06/2025 09:13

This situation is getting out of hand. That much is obvious to everyone except you op.

dogcatkitten · 23/06/2025 09:13

NotDarkGothicMama · 23/06/2025 07:28

I don't agree with what they've done (breaking into military bases to vandalise planes), but I don't understand why they're being proscribed. Extinction Rebellion and Just Stop Oil have caused far more damage to property and general annoyance.

Arrest and prosecute the people who commit criminal acts, absolutely, but this is setting the bar for branding protestors "terrorists" far too low.

Have you looked at their web site, they have been involved in a LOT of damage to properties, they have driven companies out of business and are proud of it. They deliberately target and persecute particular companies, their customers and suppliers, everything is planned in detail, why they have now attacked the RAF would be interesting to know, but I would bet it wasn't some random act. They have training days for their activists, that you have to be vetted to attend, I would like to be a fly on the wall there. I am a sympathiser to what is going on in Gaza, but I don't like this lot.

Vaxtable · 23/06/2025 09:11

They got into a military base, and damaged equipment that could defend us if needed

ergo they are terrorists
Simple really

and like ER and JSO don’t do something you are not prepared to pay the consequences for

User37482 · 23/06/2025 09:11

HairyHenrietta · 23/06/2025 09:08

Not random Jewish business. Proved the full
details before you post maybe…

Oh shit my bad, it’s totally fine to trash someone business of you suspect them of being in any way tied to Israel. Thats totally fine. Listen to yourself.

I’ve decided that I don’t like the actions of France in the Sahel, I’m going to trash any business that imports French goods or that has French ties.

Yeah doesn’t sound reasonable does it.

TorroFerney · 23/06/2025 09:10

NotDarkGothicMama · 23/06/2025 08:04

I wouldn't say throwing a bit of paint at a plane is serious damage. It needs a clean and a respray, not scrapping. Should they be prosecuted? Yes. Would I have cared if they'd been shot by the personnel responsible for securing the base? Only so far as it would affect those personnel.

Well next time you are going on holiday by plane , if paint has been thrown at it and it’s been damaged I expect youll be happy to get on it after its been wiped down then? If the paint has gone into the turbine/engine etc you’ll not want that checking at all?

HairyHenrietta · 23/06/2025 09:10

HatsOffToThePigeons · 23/06/2025 09:06

It's not civil disobedience though. It's crossed a line. If we need to scramble planes and their engines don't work because some idiots filled them with paint, and we get invaded, we're not all going to laugh and go "ah, those rascals have been at it again."

We are not going to get invaded though. My concern is with the people who are getting invaded as British military is very unlikely to come to their assistance as we are sitting on the fence trying not to get involved and passively accepting that tens and thousands of people are being bombed or starved to death. This will be such a shameful patch on British history.

Fitasafiddle1 · 23/06/2025 09:08

They are calling for the death of all Jews, openly and publicly. They are threatening and terrifying the Jewish community (as you can see on other threads) There is NOTHING peaceful about racist and religious hate, and we will not stand for it in this country. Yes they are absolutely an extreme criminal group that need to be shut down indefinitely.

HairyHenrietta · 23/06/2025 09:08

User37482 · 23/06/2025 09:00

They have attacked the UK’s military assets. They also targeted Jewish businesses in Stamford hill and manchester so they are disgusting anti-semites too.

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Not random Jewish business. Proved the full
details before you post maybe…

HatsOffToThePigeons · 23/06/2025 09:06

It's not civil disobedience though. It's crossed a line. If we need to scramble planes and their engines don't work because some idiots filled them with paint, and we get invaded, we're not all going to laugh and go "ah, those rascals have been at it again."

LucyMonth · 23/06/2025 09:06

GreenSedan · 23/06/2025 08:00

There is a world of difference between someone holding a sign, going on a march, carrying out a letter writing campaign, lobbying their MP, etc and carrying out the violent, criminal and destructive direct action that PA have devoted themselves to.

They 100% should be proscribed. They've crossed a threshold and they need to be stopped.

Unfortunately this sort of thinking gets us absolutely no where.

I think this specific case involves military bases and so terrorism is the correct description, however people politely waving signs and being mildly inconvenient doesn’t make change happen. It never has.

Women didn’t get the right to vote because people wrote some nicely worded letters to their MPs asking if we may please be included in democracy.

There have been plenty of marches for Palestine. Plenty of petitions. Plenty of letters to MPs. Last time I checked absolutely fuck all has changed. It’s the same with climate change protests. Things have to get a little uncomfortable for change to happen. Just not so uncomfortable we’re breaking into military bases.

EasternStandard · 23/06/2025 09:06

ssd · 23/06/2025 09:00

This absolutely

Don’t do the attacks on military kit then. No point getting upset it’s illegal to support them after.

Naddd · 23/06/2025 09:05

No they are not terrorists.

RanyaJerodung · 23/06/2025 09:05

ssd · 23/06/2025 09:04

That old chestnut

Indeed. Useful idiot chestnuts 😂😂

User37482 · 23/06/2025 09:05

ssd · 23/06/2025 09:04

That old chestnut

Sorry but it’s true, a bunch of these idiots are now protesting on behalf of a regime that whips and blinds women. Fools.

RanyaJerodung · 23/06/2025 09:05

HairyHenrietta · 23/06/2025 09:03

You know what I meant here right?

No, I genuinely don't know why you think these planes have flown into Gaza and killed innocent people?