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Is this grumpiness, early dementia or abuse?

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GrannyJJ · 22/06/2025 17:14

I have been with my male partner for 10 years. He’s 11 years older than me at 65. We started living together a couple of years ago and he retired last year. His dad had dementia starting in his 60s. These may be relevant facts - I don’t know.
We split up a few years ago for a while and got back together but I always felt like he had an anger towards me even when we got back together. Things aren’t terrible most of the time but my partner is generally grumpy and hyper sensitive to criticism. He’s got a personality of someone with adult adhd (am I looking for excuses - probably). I’ve therefore been careful not to criticise but yesterday he was painting the shed without a tarpaulin over the brand new porcelain garden tiles. Anyone else would probably scream - “cover the tiles up” but I knew he’d get angry if I said that so I simply went out and said “don’t forget the tarpaulin is round the side”. Well he flipped. In the garden. Threatened to ram the paint brush up my arse if I was going to criticise him. I wasn’t meek and mild in my response but that is the first time he’s ever threatened violence. He gets angry and annoyed and never apologises - I’m just too sensitive etc etc. Even when I said I want an apology he will say you’re always criticising me and you make me angry. But this was a line he crossed. Threatening me with violence and especially sexual violence is not grumpiness…

About 3 people over the years have actually said to me about how he speaks to me like a child at times and one mutual friend had a word with him about how it makes him feel uncomfortable. He was trying to criticise some words I was using - I was speaking in an accent but I’m not stupid. I’m far more educated than he is and now I realise he could actually be insecure about that as I’ve also recently been promoted whereas he has retired. His employer was concerned about his memory before he left - could it be dementia starting? Because half an hour later he will offer me a cup of tea like nothing has happened….
So am I being unreasonable in saying unless he apologizes and gets some help for his anger then I want him to leave?
He said he will move out as he’s fed up of me.
The house is in my name only. He’s contributed to a lot of developments in the house but I’d get a valuation of the property and give him half the value minus the outstanding mortgage (but it might not be as much as he put in). We were supposed to get married and he’d go on the mortgage so I think this is fair. Obviously I’ll get legal advice but I didn’t want to get the garden done - he insisted on most of the work getting done. I’ll give him half but no more.

please be gentle. I have always been somewhat too empathetic of others problems and let them treat me less than I deserve. Yeah his dad might have been awful to him but I don’t deserve to be spoken to disrespectfully. I daren’t tell my adult son as I’d be scared he would thump him - in fact I’m too ashamed to tell anyone.
But I’m glad I’ve told him he’s crossed a line - the grumpiness and criticism of me is one thing but threats of violence are not acceptable ever. He knows my dad was violent to me growing up.

thank you for being a safe space for me to share this.

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ilovemyhamster · 25/06/2025 22:39

You could obtain a non molestation order which would set conditions, one of which would be he must keep away from you/ not contact you directly or indirectly. He has threatened you and is abusive. Seek legal advice asap

Fushia123 · 24/06/2025 09:09

Repeating my previous message about getting some legal advice.

Givenupshopping · 23/06/2025 22:43

I echo the advice given OP. He's very sneakily forced his money on you by insisting on doing things to the house/garden, and thinks that that entitles him to a share of your house. IT DOES NOT!!

Call the police, and tell them that he's threatened you with violence, you've asked him to leave, as the house belongs to you, and you alone, but he's refusing. Tell them that you're frightened to talk to him about it any further, for fear of violence, and ask them if they can come and escort him from your property. Also, tell them that you have a big burly son who would happily throw him out, but you don't want him to get into trouble, as it is bound to turn nasty.

Finally, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, do not mention giving him any money at this stage. If he insists that you owe him, then tell him you will NOT discuss the subject until he leaves your home permanently, but that you may be willing to come to an agreement, once he has left. That is, of course, if you still want to after his latest behaviour.

Good luck OP, and please keep us informed, so that we can continue to advise and support you.

Tiswa · 23/06/2025 22:02

Get proper advice and fast to get him out of the house

PothasProblem · 23/06/2025 21:27

Phone the police now. Report the abuse. Tell them you asked him to leave and he has refused.

Get the locks changed when he leaves for work and get a security camera/doorbell

Phone woman's aid for advice

Tell people who love and care about you what's happening. You need support in real life. People who know you who can look after you and support you in practical physical ways we can't.

Eddielizzard · 23/06/2025 18:54

This guy is dangerous. He's threatening. I would tell key friends so that they know what's going on for your own protection. Take care

Burntlemon · 23/06/2025 18:50

LurkyMcLurkinson · 23/06/2025 18:33

Tell him he has no entitlement to your property so he can either leave or you can call the police, report his threat of violence and get them to physically remove him.

This.
Contact Women's aid and ask for advice.
He has zero rights to YOUR house.

Do not complicate this by saying you want to give him money.

It is your house.
He deliberately forced stuff on you so that he could claim rights.

He has confirmed that to you.

You need to be clever here.
Call 101 and ask for advice.
He's a bully.
Forget about your neighbours.
Focus on getting this abusive man OUT OF YOUR HOUSE.
Key in the door.
His stuff packed outside.
Change the locks.
He has threatened to hurt you.
Things will get worse not better.
Act now.

LurkyMcLurkinson · 23/06/2025 18:33

Tell him he has no entitlement to your property so he can either leave or you can call the police, report his threat of violence and get them to physically remove him.

GrannyJJ · 23/06/2025 18:29

He’s refusing to leave. I don’t want to involve my son as the police will get involved and my son has an interview this week. I’m not letting him wreck his life. He’s going to work on nights and I could double snib the door and leave a key in the door. But I’m wfh tomorrow and tbh I don’t need the stress or drama of someone hammering the door downstairs. How do I make him leave. He thinks he has a right to stay as he’s put money in the house.

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GrannyJJ · 23/06/2025 18:07

He’s saying he over reacted but that he was reacting to me. He’s thinking that’s an apology! I’ve told him he can go tomorrow as he’s on night shift tomorrow. I was hoping he’d realise and beg forgiveness but he’s an utter prick. I said if he doesn’t leave I’ll get my son down to make sure he goes. He said he’d call the police if he hit him and I said oh so it’s ok for you to threaten me with violence and that’s when he said it was an overreaction but that’s the extent of his admission. I asked if he felt ashamed of himself and he doesn’t as he’s justified his behaviour to himself. A sad old grumpy man. He’s too weak to show any vulnerability

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chatgptsbestmate · 23/06/2025 14:05

Let’s see if he leaves today like he said he would last night

I think you're being way too passive. Get rid of him !

Burntlemon · 23/06/2025 14:02

He was devastated that she ended things.
He wasn't moved in but had been bring up their future plans regularly.

She had had a good marriage and wasn't interested in adjusting to the intense intimacy of living together with someone else.

This is all second hand of course, but the surprise and upset of the decking did the rounds.
Funnily enough her lovely neighbour had been given the impression it was a much planned surprise by him, and was very upset to learn she was upset and shocked upon her return.
No wonder her sister thought she was being played.

OP, I think you have absolutely been boiled frog emotionally abused by him, slowly, slowly, drip, drip, drip.

Undermining you.
Breaking you down.

Your conversation with colleagues etc., confirm you are not this aggressive ogre.

This is a narrative that he has created to shut you down.
This is the nature of abuse.

You aren't allowed to say a word.
He gets to mess and piss everywhere.

Please do not dismiss this as accidental.

He knows EXACTLY what he has been doing.
Don't fall for it that he is "misunderstood".

This is a man whom has been emotionally abusing you deliberately and is extremely controlling.

Abuse thrives upon secrecy.
Tell your son the truth.
Get him out.
Take careful advice.
Hand over, agree to nothing.
The house is yours.
Don't be played by thinking his forced spending on your house means you owe him anything.

He knew EXACTLY what he was doing.

justasking111 · 23/06/2025 13:40

My friends grandma 84 lovely lady a gentleman from the church latched onto her. Widowed also 18 months ago, it went from lunch out to his feet under the table most days

Grandma said I know he's nice and lonely but I'm done with picking up socks etc. Once a week is sufficient, lunch out, not in my kitchen.

justasking111 · 23/06/2025 13:36

Please God he's gone this evening. Otherwise call in the cavalry family wise.

Clarabell77 · 23/06/2025 13:35

Let’s see if he leaves today like he said he would last night.

I wouldn’t wait and see, I’d make sure it happens!

GrannyJJ · 23/06/2025 13:30

Burntlemon · 23/06/2025 13:15

Him investing in your house, stuff you didn't ask for is a deliberate move on his part, so that you owe him.
It is what controlling manipulative men do.

A friend of a friend was seeing a man and he was very keen for them to marry.

She liked him but was in no rush whatsoever to move things along.

She went away on holiday with her sister for a week and he had offered to water the garden for her, which she accepted.

She returned to a part of her garden dug up and an decking installed as a gift for "them".

She was very very upset.
Thankfully she turned to family who came into the house after dropping her back from the airport.

He was given the choice of restoring the garden to how it formally looked or acknowledging it as a surprise gift.

Her family really stepped up.
Thankfully she realised they were not on the same page and she ended things.

Her sister remained highly suspicious of his intentions and 'nurse with a purse' was bandied about a lot.

He was devastated by the split.
Get good advice.

I don’t think my partner is devastated although I recognise that he used his money to control me. He got to choose what got done in the house. And said a lot of times about how he’d spent more than me. I earn 3 times what he does now that he’s retired and I searched my WhatsApp’s this morning for the word aggressive. I’ve been asking him for years to stop the aggressive criticism of me. I recently got 360 feedback off my staff and all of them said I was kind and a great manager. Other managers said I was doing a great job. And I was so surprised to hear that as he’d have me think I wasn’t a nice person with my “constant criticism of him”. Things like asking him to cover the floor as he paints messily or not to piss on the floor in front of this toilet.. yes that was also unacceptable to mention that. Someone said I shouldn’t ruin my future nursing someone like him and I promise I won’t. I’d already made my mind up never to put him on the mortgage. Let’s see if he leaves today like he said he would last night.

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Burntlemon · 23/06/2025 13:15

Him investing in your house, stuff you didn't ask for is a deliberate move on his part, so that you owe him.
It is what controlling manipulative men do.

A friend of a friend was seeing a man and he was very keen for them to marry.

She liked him but was in no rush whatsoever to move things along.

She went away on holiday with her sister for a week and he had offered to water the garden for her, which she accepted.

She returned to a part of her garden dug up and an decking installed as a gift for "them".

She was very very upset.
Thankfully she turned to family who came into the house after dropping her back from the airport.

He was given the choice of restoring the garden to how it formally looked or acknowledging it as a surprise gift.

Her family really stepped up.
Thankfully she realised they were not on the same page and she ended things.

Her sister remained highly suspicious of his intentions and 'nurse with a purse' was bandied about a lot.

He was devastated by the split.
Get good advice.

Clarabell77 · 23/06/2025 07:25

I don’t see this as dementia, sounds like he’s always been like this.

I wouldn’t give what others think a second thought, couples split up all the time, if he’s speaking to you like that in front of people and in the back garden they are probably already wondering what you’re thinking in staying with him.

Definitely wouldn’t be giving him 50% equity either.

Oblomov25 · 23/06/2025 06:27

It's not just a recent dementure thing though is it. It's been going on for years, getting worse, he has always been grumpy. 3 other people have noticed, 1 picked him up on it, publicly!

He's owed very little money wise. Sort that bit out soon. You sound kind so offer him a proportion.

Do it sooner, rather than later. The sooner you do it the better. 'He'd been vile to her for years, rather than the cow dumped him whey dementia started showing and she didn't want to nurse him (what a bitch) , nasty rumours, people always do gossip.

Oblomov25 · 23/06/2025 06:16

Good God please don't marry him, ever, please ask him to leave. Just tell him how abusive and demeaning and miserable he is.

SweetChilliGirl · 23/06/2025 06:07

Why on Earth would you give him glad the value of your house? Please don't do this. Tell him to leave. He sounds vile.

Flyswats · 23/06/2025 05:51

This situation is not going to improve. He is 65. It will only get worse. Counseling or therapy may help you at this point, but it is not going to change him. Please get him out of your life / house / financial entanglements and move on.

PermanentTemporary · 23/06/2025 05:09

I’m sorry I haven’t read all of the replies.

This is surely over. Why spend any time with a man who treats you like this. Not sure why you got back together with him before.

i personally would get legal and financial advice. You don’t have to do exactly what they advise if you think he should have more.

LemondrizzleShark · 23/06/2025 04:38

GrannyJJ · 22/06/2025 18:14

Morally I couldn’t do that - he has put about 80k in and I will give him that back. But I won’t get it for 18 months. The only way back from this is an apology and counselling on his part. And even then I am not sure. He is never ever going on my house deeds - he sold his flat to move in and still has cash to get somewhere else.

How much would he have spent on renting a flat for the past ten years? More than £80k I can tell you.

Yellowbutterfly990 · 23/06/2025 04:31

' I don’t want my relationship to fail. I want him to admit he needs help and to rebuild it but if he can’t or won’t then I will walk away. '

What makes you feel he wants AND can change?