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Was I unreasonable to say no?

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Thefourth · 22/06/2025 15:20

Christmas allocation was sent out last week. We have to have it so early because we need to plan the out reach around it. For first time in 5 years I have Christmas Eve, Christmas Day, Boxing Day & NYD off. Im Working nye. We’re going to go away. We dont have children but that’s because I’m infertile it’s not because we don’t want them.

Usually I pick up extra but this year I thought fuck it, no I want to have it all off. So I requested it off and in the comments I pointed out I have covered their Christmas shifts & done my own for 5 years.

I have been massively guilty of tripped by 3 colleagues who have said I must pick up their Christmas shifts because they have children and I don’t. One of them said that I was deceitful by not telling them I wanted it all off because as she assumed I would cover it all she hadn’t asked for any of it off.

Another one has gone to our manager and demanded that he make me work it and give them my days off. He asked me to consider taking some of their shifts and I said if he asks me again I will quit.

For the last 5 years I have had off the 29th-30th December and then take my ‘Christmas leave’ in January.

Their children are 11,5,9,15,18 & 21 respectively if it changes anyone’s opinion.

the atmosphere is awful

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SerendipityJane · 22/06/2025 16:11

Another one has gone to our manager and demanded that he make me work it and give them my days off. He asked me to consider taking some of their shifts and I said if he asks me again I will quit.

I know there's a lot going on today, but am I the only person who read this and thought "constructive dismissal" ?

Horses7 · 22/06/2025 16:08

They are completely selfish CFs so you must stick to your guns on this one!

Keepingthingsinteresting · 22/06/2025 16:08

Hankunamatata · 22/06/2025 15:49

Its fine
But would have been better to mention to people that your not covering this year.

Read the room! Why on earth is it her responsibility to tell people she won’t be doing that is in any event entirely optional

Lavenderandbrown · 22/06/2025 16:06

Wow I’m so happy for you op especially standing up to your manager.
I do think the management plays into this…no one should have every holiday or even the exact same vacation every year in a workplace that works holidays.
I had a colleague married to a minister…wanted every Xmas eve and Xmas day off to attend “his” religious services. No..he’s always going to be a minister plan accordingly.

Another was 63 y.o woman with grown children no grands didn’t put up a tree or exchange gifts or eat at home but rather a restaurant. Every year she freely spoke about no tree no gifts no cooking no hosting and yet requested Every Xmas week off for years as she was the most senior employee.

I changed all that when I started managing everyones paid time off.

of course they are mad at themselves because they took you for granted. This is the way forward no more taking the heavy load as they have shown how very little appreciation they have for you working holidays

Somewhat81 · 22/06/2025 16:05

Thefourth · 22/06/2025 15:59

Absolutely!! I was thinking about looking for a new job and this has cemented it

But definitely not before Christmas

yes interactions like this don’t get really just come out of the blue

there’s a history

PinkiOcelot · 22/06/2025 16:02

This really pisses me off. There’s selfish twats. Just keep saying no OP.

SameOldMe · 22/06/2025 16:02

It's really hard because at Christmas there is no childcare open so those with children, especially single parents might struggle. BUT they have plenty of notice to make arrangements and find cover so it's only fair that you take this time off. We arrange holiday in April so plenty of time to find cover.

BlueandPinkSwan · 22/06/2025 16:01

Moveoverdarlin · 22/06/2025 15:36

I’d say ‘Still banging on about that Jane? For your sake, just drop it. Honestly, I’m not going to change my mind. It’s the first Christmas I’ve had off in 5 years. Don’t work in an industry where you have to work at Christmas if it’s so bloody important. Kiss my ass and fuck off.’

Loving this response😁

BoundaryGirl3939 · 22/06/2025 16:00

It's demeaning and downright heartless that they expect you to do it.

Thefourth · 22/06/2025 15:59

Somewhat81 · 22/06/2025 15:43

Generally speaking…. Relations between you and these colleagues are in the gutter, yes?

Absolutely!! I was thinking about looking for a new job and this has cemented it

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JustGiveMeWineNow · 22/06/2025 15:52

What a shower of bitches!!
Honestly you have done 5 years. I would be reminding them of that! Tell them if they keep going you will be covering no one in future Christmas holidays. People are an absolute joke.

Hankunamatata · 22/06/2025 15:49

Its fine
But would have been better to mention to people that your not covering this year.

CharlotteStreetW1 · 22/06/2025 15:49

Somewhat81 · 22/06/2025 15:27

We dont have children but that’s because I’m infertile it’s not because we don’t want them.

the reason why you don’t have children is utterly irrelevant

Not when you're on the receiving end of emotional blackmail because you don't have children - especially from those who do. It's absolutely rubbing salt in the wound.

Catwoman8 · 22/06/2025 15:49

Everyone is entitled to want some time off over Christmas, whether they have children or not! Don't let them make you feel guilty. You shouldn't need to, but reiterate that you have worked christmas for the last 5 years, you are having a break this year, you have plans.

Shesellsseashellsnotinmystreet · 22/06/2025 15:48

Think how much money you can save now. No contributions to birthdays /weddings /Christmas cards. Bunch of tossers the lot of them...
Don't be afraid to make official complaints.. Bullying it is. Outright bullying..

NeedyTiger · 22/06/2025 15:48

Tell them their entitlement and guilt trips and frostiness at work has now ensured you won't be doing them any more favours going forward because they never appreciated the last 5 years worth of favours ! CFs the lot of them ! Why does their time off trump yours just because they have kids ?!? You still deserve a Christmas 🎄 and yes you should absolutely stick to it and make sure your manager sorts this too the prick ! I'm sorry they are treating you this way ❣️

JustFeedMeCake · 22/06/2025 15:46

Horrible people. I’d be looking for another job.

Figcherry · 22/06/2025 15:46

A friend of mine was asked to swap her Christmas Day off with someone as she didn’t have dc.
She replied ‘ I have parents and I’m their only dc so no I won’t be swapping .’

Swiftie1878 · 22/06/2025 15:46

MadeForThis · 22/06/2025 15:45

I would say to everyone that I’m taking my first Christmas off in 5 years and if I hear anyone bitching about it I will never cover a Christmas shift for them again.

This.

MadeForThis · 22/06/2025 15:45

I would say to everyone that I’m taking my first Christmas off in 5 years and if I hear anyone bitching about it I will never cover a Christmas shift for them again.

BangersAndGnash · 22/06/2025 15:45

Of course YANBU.

My adult sister does not have kids and I would be gutted if she could never join our sibling family group Christmases just because of that!

Katemax82 · 22/06/2025 15:44

You have as much right as anyone with kids to take your Christmas leave!! Don't be guilt tripped you've done nothing wrong

Melonmango70 · 22/06/2025 15:44

This is just horrendous. I work for the NHS and on my ward it's work Xmas one year, NY the next. Fair for everyone. Some people (including me at times) might request to work both, or do bank over that time, but overall you work one and not the other. I do feel for our regular domestic staff though, who work Monday - Friday, or over the weekend (seems to be one contract or another) and aren't allowed to take any time off at Xmas or NY, so unless it falls on a weekend (or in the week, if it's weekend staff), they just have to suck it up. That said, I have heard people advising others "just tell them you have children and so you should have the time off". Err...why? I don't have children but I do have a family! I remember in my previous workplace (not NHS) one of my colleagues stating that she and other people with children should be given priority when requesting leave in the summer. And at the same workplace, the senior manager actually said to her junior (so, my direct line manager) with regards to Xmas "Make sure you give priority to those with families"! My line manager's response was "We've ALL got families...!" Correct! Your wish to have time off at Xmas is NOT trumped by theirs, and they are selfish arses for making a big deal of it, and making you feel like shit!

Somewhat81 · 22/06/2025 15:43

Thefourth · 22/06/2025 15:41

It’s because the shifts came out last week. The allocation needs to be made way in advance so we can plan emergency outreach. Trust me I’m not usually thinking about Christmas in June usually!!

Generally speaking…. Relations between you and these colleagues are in the gutter, yes?

InterIgnis · 22/06/2025 15:42

Stick to your guns.

As you can see, they don’t recognize and appreciate the generosity you have shown, but instead consider it something owed to them.

The reason why you don’t have children is irrelevant.

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