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To think we’re getting dumber?

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ByMerryTiger · 22/06/2025 13:52

AIBU to think people are getting… thicker? Not just ‘bit slow on a Monday’ thick, but ‘can’t read a basic sentence without spiralling into nonsense’ thick.

You see it constantly on here. Someone writes a clear post: paragraphs, punctuation, even the odd line break. And the replies come from people who’ve either skimmed one word and filled in the rest with fever dreams, or who seem to think reading comprehension is some sort of woke conspiracy.

Post: Neighbour offered me Battenberg after reversing into my fence, do I accept or ask for cash?

Replies:

  • ‘Why are you so anti-cake?’
  • ‘Maybe it was your fault for having a fence.’
  • ‘You should be grateful she reversed slowly.’
  • ‘My mother died in a freak fence collision and I find this offensive.’
  • ‘Fences are a capitalist construct.’

The leap in logic. The total inability to process what’s actually been written. It’s like everyone’s brain has been replaced with a malfunctioning Alexa.

No one seems to follow a thread anymore, let alone a thought. You’ll get replies that directly contradict the post or themselves. Tangents about school shoes, astrology, or ‘back in my day we didn’t have fences’.

It’s not just here either. It’s emails, conversations, work meetings. Words go in, soup comes out. We’re a nation of people who couldn’t pass Year 6 reading SATs but think they should be in charge of policy decisions.

Anyway. Fence is fine. Battenberg was dry. Mind is unravelling.

OP posts:
Mistyglade · 23/06/2025 01:08

Thread 🙌🏼

EmeraldRoulette · 22/06/2025 23:48

@ByMerryTiger "And the replies come from people who’ve either skimmed one word and filled in the rest with fever dreams"

this is so brilliant, I want to make it my username!

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 22/06/2025 22:42

The things we can do without the aid of computers now is pretty minimal.
Spell? Add? Multiply? Read a map? Even converse with other humans…

DorothyStorm · 22/06/2025 22:40

I do not agree that people are getting thicker. It is that they are out there, very visibly, unedited and unfiltered. We are spending more time communicating with people, especially complete strangers, in writing.

Mischance · 22/06/2025 22:34

But we have an education system that values rote learning rather than logical thinking.
What you are describing OP is what follows from thst.
Schools have to teach to the tests..

Swirlythingy2025 · 22/06/2025 22:19

MaySea · 22/06/2025 21:45

I don't think we're getting thicker but I do think education is getting poorer. Not knowing the difference between they're, there and their, language comprehension, not understanding what evolution is and how it works, etc. these are all failures of education not intelligence.

but thats because half the time they are more intrested in tiktok or football etc rather than studying in the age of wikipedia and google etc any subject or at least the basics etc but give them pop music, and will young etc and easily led

JoshLymanSwagger · 22/06/2025 22:18

ByMerryTiger · 22/06/2025 13:52

AIBU to think people are getting… thicker? Not just ‘bit slow on a Monday’ thick, but ‘can’t read a basic sentence without spiralling into nonsense’ thick.

You see it constantly on here. Someone writes a clear post: paragraphs, punctuation, even the odd line break. And the replies come from people who’ve either skimmed one word and filled in the rest with fever dreams, or who seem to think reading comprehension is some sort of woke conspiracy.

Post: Neighbour offered me Battenberg after reversing into my fence, do I accept or ask for cash?

Replies:

  • ‘Why are you so anti-cake?’
  • ‘Maybe it was your fault for having a fence.’
  • ‘You should be grateful she reversed slowly.’
  • ‘My mother died in a freak fence collision and I find this offensive.’
  • ‘Fences are a capitalist construct.’

The leap in logic. The total inability to process what’s actually been written. It’s like everyone’s brain has been replaced with a malfunctioning Alexa.

No one seems to follow a thread anymore, let alone a thought. You’ll get replies that directly contradict the post or themselves. Tangents about school shoes, astrology, or ‘back in my day we didn’t have fences’.

It’s not just here either. It’s emails, conversations, work meetings. Words go in, soup comes out. We’re a nation of people who couldn’t pass Year 6 reading SATs but think they should be in charge of policy decisions.

Anyway. Fence is fine. Battenberg was dry. Mind is unravelling.

TLDR.

YABU for mentioning cake when the shops are shut.

Jennps · 22/06/2025 22:11

Perhaps it’s already been said by PP, but its democratisation of thickery.

Thickos now share the same platform as smart people. They’re all on the internet and walk amongst the intellectuals. And they drag everyone down to their level by rage baiting. Like the examples in your OP.

And they are multiplying.

It’s almost like a zombie move where they are charging at the un infected or the alive only to attack them. But with stupidity instead.

MaySea · 22/06/2025 21:45

I don't think we're getting thicker but I do think education is getting poorer. Not knowing the difference between they're, there and their, language comprehension, not understanding what evolution is and how it works, etc. these are all failures of education not intelligence.

Gingernaut · 22/06/2025 21:13

Redpeach · 22/06/2025 17:48

Interesting - i was also thinking of narcissists.

Narcissists want to be centre of attention/respected expert/smartest in the room, but at some level they know they aren't and will melt down when shown up as wanting

People who genuinely believe that they are smarter than they actually are can come from all walks of life

Swirlythingy2025 · 22/06/2025 20:56

ByMerryTiger · 22/06/2025 18:05

I LOVED that show. They apparently cancelled it because it was too expensive to make. Broke my heart. 😢

i read that too, it does beg the question just what is possible with science.
cannot believe they promoted fargo/ technically a timeline swap but still in any universe/reality its fargo etc omg
jo lupo, that eposide when they are at the bunker and she asks carter if he was alone and about 10 red dots appear on jo.
overall a great series

ReacherOMGyes · 22/06/2025 18:20

I haven't RTFT but you sound like hard work OP, if your husband wants carrot cake instead of battenburg just buy if for him. Do you even want to be married?

Sorry couldn't resist

I questioned about there being a lot of bot replies on here a while ago, as some threads the first half dozen replies are almost the same and are so left feild of what the poster was asking. Some replies I have to question if the poster is replying to the right thread tbh

I think it's just SM in general, got to post first reply, get the most likes, get quoted as much as possible, the quick fix of feeling relevant for 5 seconds. It's quite sad really

ByMerryTiger · 22/06/2025 18:05

Swirlythingy2025 · 22/06/2025 17:46

or the opposite in the show town called eureka

I LOVED that show. They apparently cancelled it because it was too expensive to make. Broke my heart. 😢

OP posts:
Dominicus · 22/06/2025 17:57

I blame the lack of reading.

SapporoBaby · 22/06/2025 17:53

The13thFairy · 22/06/2025 16:11

There was a thread recently asking about mammograms, and if we would be ok with a male doing it. So, so many women wrote about how a man delivered her baby, a man was once really gentle with a speculum, a man spotted her breast cancer, if it hadn't been for a male surgeon she'd be dead, and so on. The original question was answered by a bit more than half the posters.

But that’s not people being thick that’s people who are using SIMILAR but not the same experiences with a man doing medical care to them (generally in an intimate place) and how they were Ok with it. So it’s answering the question through their similar experience.

Thats what conversation is, even online. Discussion would be very boring if people stuck religiously to the question and just said yes or no.

Swirlythingy2025 · 22/06/2025 17:50

plus people in general would rather study football or reality tv shows and let "experts in the media" tell them whats what but when someone has read books or watched documentarys people seem to stick to well the media says this etc as if the media is gospal

Swirlythingy2025 · 22/06/2025 17:48

@ByMerryTiger i think part of the issue is people dont want to seem dumb.
they rely on the media to tell them whats what
they jump from point to point eg you try to explain one item in context mention something else and then they jump to that topic.
plus people dont seem to be able to admit they are wrong or if they do they seem to take offence etc

Redpeach · 22/06/2025 17:48

Gingernaut · 22/06/2025 17:39

The Dunning-Kruger Effect

https://www.verywellmind.com/an-overview-of-the-dunning-kruger-effect-4160740

Works the other way too

Smart people fail to realise they are not 'normal' and overestimate 'normal' people's ability to see what they can comprehend

Interesting - i was also thinking of narcissists.

Swirlythingy2025 · 22/06/2025 17:46

or the opposite in the show town called eureka

Swirlythingy2025 · 22/06/2025 17:46

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 22/06/2025 13:53

YABVVU, because now I want Battenburg cake.

they had some reduced in my local mini market but its the sugar and cal for one bar that put me off.

ginslinger · 22/06/2025 17:45

Good grief OP have you ever thought you're the problem neighbour? Expecting Battenburg and having snobby ideas about fences.

Joyinthemoning · 22/06/2025 17:42

German Fences! Whatever next?

Gingernaut · 22/06/2025 17:39

Redpeach · 22/06/2025 17:34

Isn't there a personality trait where people think they are cleverer than everyone else? 🤔

The Dunning-Kruger Effect

https://www.verywellmind.com/an-overview-of-the-dunning-kruger-effect-4160740

Works the other way too

Smart people fail to realise they are not 'normal' and overestimate 'normal' people's ability to see what they can comprehend

Dunning-Kruger Effect: Why Incompetent People Think They Are Superior

The Dunning-Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which the incompetent lack the skills and cognitive abilities to recognize their own inability. Learn how it works.

https://www.verywellmind.com/an-overview-of-the-dunning-kruger-effect-4160740

Pedallleur · 22/06/2025 17:39

I hate Battenburg. Not so keen on the Hapsburgs either but a Schnitzel, strudel or Sachet Torte is welcome in case I am regarded as anti Austrian. That Hitler tho could just go right away. No use to anyone not even the Austrians.

spoonbillstretford · 22/06/2025 17:38

My IQ is apparently over 140 but I still miss things on here sometimes.