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The US has bombed Fordow and other sites.

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MistressoftheDarkSide · 22/06/2025 01:19

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2025/jun/22/israel-iran-war-live-trump-says-us-has-attacked-nuclear-sites-in-iran-including-fordow

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pollyglot · 22/06/2025 03:38

Interesting reading:
https://www.counterpunch.org/2025/06/20/israels-nuclear-deception

Figcherry · 22/06/2025 03:34

I’ll preempt this with I am not on any side in the current conflict.

Israel launched the war on Iran whilst Iran and the US were discussing their nuclear infrastructure in a very succesful bud to end those talks. The Israli government have used their sleeper agents to assassinate military leaders, scientists etc. Whilst doing so they have killed those people's neighbours, flattening apartment buildings.

@Righteo

Iran have been firing ballistic missiles over Israel since October 24.

They have systematically gone into neighbouring countries committing state sponsored terrorists acts themselves. Remember the mobile phones, pager incidents in Lebanon?

Many countries do this, you just don’t know about it.

I’m constantly surprised that so many people on MN don’t understand the strategic importance of Israel in the Middle East.
Whether you love or loathe Israel they will always be supported by the West.

Ilovelifeverymuch · 22/06/2025 03:31

tava63 · 22/06/2025 02:49

I just can’t take this in, the U.S. have bombed three nuclear (NUCLEAR) sites. What will this do to people on the ground there? What will this mean for the world?

Nothing, they were evacuated, the aim was to destroy the sites to stop the enrichment. The sites were deep in the ground and only the US has the bombs capable and the plan capable to deliver the bomb hence why it makes sense.

Trump tried and tried to negotiate with Iran and they kept stalling and being difficult while continuing to build their nuclear capabilities.

I also don't get why this is the point you can't take or, all the fighting and killing before this you could take it but now you suddenly can't take it?

Ilovelifeverymuch · 22/06/2025 03:27

PoopingAllTheWay · 22/06/2025 02:15

And you think they have come together with Trump for this reason ? Surely you dont think that- 🤯😶‍🌫️

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Some people like @PuddledPeople will never see things for what they are and just continue to peddle conspiracies. Yeah he planned with Hezbollah to attack Israel so Israel can attack Iran so he can hide the billions he is stealing 😂

PoopingAllTheWay · 22/06/2025 03:27

Ilovelifeverymuch · 22/06/2025 03:25

Whatever support they offer will eg be offering refuge to the fleeing regime but they will not attack the US in retaliation for Iran. Iran is very very weak now and frankly isn't worth it for China to get into a direct conflict with the US.

Iran also defended on terrorist groups like hezbollah Hamas and Houthis who they sponsored and those organizations have also been weakened by Israel attacking them and the US attacking the Houthis to stop them attacking commercials ships on the red sea, including British ships I might add.

They have offered air support, Ships , Planes and bombs

So i am really baffled by people saying
’I think blah blah’

They HAVE ALREADY offered
They have already said they will stand with Iran !

Ilovelifeverymuch · 22/06/2025 03:25

PoopingAllTheWay · 22/06/2025 02:57

I didnt say they will go to war with them BUT they Are on Irans side and they have ALREADY said they will offer support

Whatever support they offer will eg be offering refuge to the fleeing regime but they will not attack the US in retaliation for Iran. Iran is very very weak now and frankly isn't worth it for China to get into a direct conflict with the US.

Iran also defended on terrorist groups like hezbollah Hamas and Houthis who they sponsored and those organizations have also been weakened by Israel attacking them and the US attacking the Houthis to stop them attacking commercials ships on the red sea, including British ships I might add.

DomPom47 · 22/06/2025 03:24

Lifesd · 22/06/2025 03:14

I fear Iran and it’s terrorist proxies like Hamas, the Houtis and Hezbollah more than I feel Israel to be honest.

These groups came about as a result of regional conflicts, including occupation and foreign interventions. You may fear those proxies more than Israel but I think Trump acting on the behest of Netanyahu and his extreme far right coalition makes me more fearful. Israel did not want Iran sitting down with the US. You have a coalition that is racist and ultranationalist who violate international law and basic human rights — including the ongoing siege of Gaza and expansion of illegal settlements. These aren’t just reactions to terror threats it’s deliberate long-term strategies. For me looking at what the US has done in the Middle East previously they have created more terrorism and destabilisation than bring the region to long term stability and peace. Ultimately it’s all about doing what Israel tells them to do - simple as that for me and making more money for the arms industry. Any consequence will be oh look Iran has bombed is they’re the bad guys.

PoopingAllTheWay · 22/06/2025 03:24

Im not really sure why everyone is sticking up for Isreal, Just because what happened to them in the past
Benjamin Netanyahu and Isreal’s former defence minister were issued with warrants for war crimes in 2024

I think everyone seems to forget this
He is no better than Putin

Willyoujustbequiet · 22/06/2025 03:23

Ilovelifeverymuch · 22/06/2025 03:11

How is he a warmongerer?

He has tried to reach peace deals and Iran failed to agree. He has made it clear that Iran will never be allowed to own a nuclear weapons and guess what you can find videos from Obama, Biden and even before saying the exact same thing, Iran will NOT be allowed to have a nuclear weapon.

He called Iran to the table to talk and they kept being difficult until Israel attacked and yet Trump is the warmongerer? 😂 Heck even CNN who hate Trump acknowledge that he was pushing for a peaceful solution but he is a war mongerer: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2025/06/12/politics/trump-israel-iran-strike-us-diplomacy

  1. He got involved to lower tempers between India and Pakistan a few months ago to avoid war but he's a war mongerer.: https://www.npr.org/2025/05/10/g-s1-65664/pakistan-india-retaliation-underway
  1. He just mediated a peace agreement between Rwanda and Congo but he is war mongerer: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/trump-deal-democratic-republic-congo-rwanda-war-mineral-resources/

https://www.state.gov/releases/office-of-the-spokesperson/2025/06/joint-statement-on-peace-talks-between-the-democratic-republic-of-the-congo-and-the-republic-of-rwanda-mediated-by-the-united-states-and-observed-by-the-state-of-qatar/

  1. In his first term he negotiated the Abraham Accords in the Middle East which even Biden continued when he became president but he is a war mongerer: https://www.npr.org/2022/07/09/1110109088/biden-is-building-on-the-abraham-accords-part-of-trumps-legacy-in-the-middle-eas
  1. His first term he reached out to North Korea to try to reach a peace deal and even though it didn't work he tried something different and non war but he is a war mongerer 😂

The Iranian regime is murderous evil regime that threatens the West at every opportunity and were getting close to having a nuclear weapon and refused many attempted to reach a peace deal so good riddance and the coward Ayatollah hiding in his bunker like a rat but Trump is a warmongerer while the Ayatollah is a blessing to the world right? 😂

Israel have pretty much neutralized Iran in a week which shows how weak they are and the US was needed to destroy the nuclear facilities which are buried deep. The US is the only country with a bomb capable and an aircraft capable of delivering the bomb if not Israel would have finished the job without the US.

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I can't take you seriously.

He's a demented fool. Not content with destabilising the world economy with his toddler like approach to tariffs Putin's delusional lapdog who thinks America won WW2 single handedly now appears to have an itchy trigger finger with for WW3.

It beggars belief anyone in their right mind could support him.

Fortunately his own supporters are turning against him in droves. It can't happen soon enough for the safety of mankind.

Ilovelifeverymuch · 22/06/2025 03:22

TooBigForMyBoots · 22/06/2025 02:57

So yes you can argue that seriously damaging Iran's nuclear ambition is actually America first.

Only if you dismiss American and international intelligence or you're stupid.

This is not America First.

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Which American intelligence, Tulsi never even said publicly that Iran was not close, go watch her confirmation hearing in Congress she terrified that they were close so it makes no sense for her to claim they are not now and it's just some publications that claimed she said it online when there is no proof she did. Go on send me a video or a quote from Tulsi saying otherwise. They twisted her comments from the hearing and claimed she said Iran is not close, I have listed to what she said she didn't say that at all and the media make it sound like she recently claimed this when it is false.

https://www.newsweek.com/tulsi-gabbard-reacts-after-trump-said-she-was-wrong-about-iran-2088685

Even the IAEA the UN nuclear watchdog confirmed Iran was close but you insist they aren't 😂
https://www.reuters.com/world/china/iaea-board-declares-iran-breach-non-proliferation-duties-diplomats-say-2025-06-12/

Yes it is America first when you take the opportunity to destroy your enemies ambitions to build a nuclear weapon that puts the world at risk, a regime that literally change death to America and has made several threats to attack the USA and also the UK for your information.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/06/world/europe/uk-russia-iran-state-threats.html

Even Starmer knows the move was right and he doesn't want to be left out 😆 😆 😂
https://www.thetimes.com/uk/defence/article/uk-troops-middle-east-iran-x0gw626r7

TempestTost · 22/06/2025 03:21

TooBigForMyBoots · 22/06/2025 02:02

Just like the non-existent WMD in Iraq.

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You know, because Mark once lied about having an affair, does not mean George is doing so now. They are separate situations.

Maybe it is true, maybe it isn't. But it's silly to think intelligence would report it to the general public.

Batmanisaplaceinturkey · 22/06/2025 03:21

TooBigForMyBoots · 22/06/2025 03:07

You have no doubt about this? Seriously? What do you mean by support for Iran?

I can see protests against the murder of Iranians. I can see protests to tell PM Starmer's government to stay the fuck out of it. What are you talking about?

Yep. It seems some people think having concerns about killing a certain demographic makes you a terrorist.
Its like Muslims deserve to be murdered or something. They started it (even when they didn't) blah blah.

ArtfulGoldWriter · 22/06/2025 03:20

TooBigForMyBoots · 22/06/2025 03:16

Tell me, who directly attacked who?

Israel attacked Iran.

Exactly. Netenyahu is a war mongering maniac currently starving 2 million people to death in Gaza. Let’s not forget that.

TooBigForMyBoots · 22/06/2025 03:16

Tell me, who directly attacked who?

Israel attacked Iran.

Lifesd · 22/06/2025 03:14

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I fear Iran and it’s terrorist proxies like Hamas, the Houtis and Hezbollah more than I feel Israel to be honest.

Ilovelifeverymuch · 22/06/2025 03:11

Willyoujustbequiet · 22/06/2025 02:12

I despair for my children's future.

I'm so angry that Americans voted for this ignorant warmonger.

How is he a warmongerer?

He has tried to reach peace deals and Iran failed to agree. He has made it clear that Iran will never be allowed to own a nuclear weapons and guess what you can find videos from Obama, Biden and even before saying the exact same thing, Iran will NOT be allowed to have a nuclear weapon.

He called Iran to the table to talk and they kept being difficult until Israel attacked and yet Trump is the warmongerer? 😂 Heck even CNN who hate Trump acknowledge that he was pushing for a peaceful solution but he is a war mongerer: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2025/06/12/politics/trump-israel-iran-strike-us-diplomacy

  1. He got involved to lower tempers between India and Pakistan a few months ago to avoid war but he's a war mongerer.: https://www.npr.org/2025/05/10/g-s1-65664/pakistan-india-retaliation-underway
  1. He just mediated a peace agreement between Rwanda and Congo but he is war mongerer: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/trump-deal-democratic-republic-congo-rwanda-war-mineral-resources/

https://www.state.gov/releases/office-of-the-spokesperson/2025/06/joint-statement-on-peace-talks-between-the-democratic-republic-of-the-congo-and-the-republic-of-rwanda-mediated-by-the-united-states-and-observed-by-the-state-of-qatar/

  1. In his first term he negotiated the Abraham Accords in the Middle East which even Biden continued when he became president but he is a war mongerer: https://www.npr.org/2022/07/09/1110109088/biden-is-building-on-the-abraham-accords-part-of-trumps-legacy-in-the-middle-eas
  1. His first term he reached out to North Korea to try to reach a peace deal and even though it didn't work he tried something different and non war but he is a war mongerer 😂

The Iranian regime is murderous evil regime that threatens the West at every opportunity and were getting close to having a nuclear weapon and refused many attempted to reach a peace deal so good riddance and the coward Ayatollah hiding in his bunker like a rat but Trump is a warmongerer while the Ayatollah is a blessing to the world right? 😂

Israel have pretty much neutralized Iran in a week which shows how weak they are and the US was needed to destroy the nuclear facilities which are buried deep. The US is the only country with a bomb capable and an aircraft capable of delivering the bomb if not Israel would have finished the job without the US.

Redirect Notice

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2025/06/12/politics/trump-israel-iran-strike-us-diplomacy

echt · 22/06/2025 03:10

viques · 22/06/2025 03:02

Let’s face it, he’s been itching to press a button or two since his first term. Can you imagine what it would have been like if he had been President surfing 9:11. He is like a little kid who has been given a box of fireworks and a lighter and told to have fun, the only difference is he isn’t the one who is going to end up in the burns unit.

This.

Notice how the announcement of the strike was through Truth Social not government channels. He did not have the right to make the strikes on behalf of of the USA; only Congress can do that.

Colossal twat.

TooBigForMyBoots · 22/06/2025 03:07

Lifesd · 22/06/2025 02:56

No doubt there will be protests of support for Iran with marches through London. I sometimes wander what side a lot of people on this country are on. We know that there have been Iranian backed terrorist sleeper cells who were plotting to attack us so yes I support a targeted attack to deprive a despotic regime of nuclear weapons.

You have no doubt about this? Seriously? What do you mean by support for Iran?

I can see protests against the murder of Iranians. I can see protests to tell PM Starmer's government to stay the fuck out of it. What are you talking about?

GentleSheep · 22/06/2025 03:06

@YourOnMute Trump said he'd make his decision within two weeks not after two weeks.

DomPom47 · 22/06/2025 03:04

He is so funny - let’s bomb them first and then make peace.

YourOnMute · 22/06/2025 03:03

Wasn't Iran in discussions with EU Ministers just yesterday? Or the day before? And said that it wouldn't enter into diplomatic talks with US unless Israel stopped bombing it?
This is what I don't understand. Surely a ceasefire could be mooted and agreed to allow for talks? Did Trump originally not babble on about two weeks? So the US just starts bombing away???
Was the US really at the point of no return? Didn't look like it to me.

viques · 22/06/2025 03:02

Let’s face it, he’s been itching to press a button or two since his first term. Can you imagine what it would have been like if he had been President surfing 9:11. He is like a little kid who has been given a box of fireworks and a lighter and told to have fun, the only difference is he isn’t the one who is going to end up in the burns unit.

DomPom47 · 22/06/2025 03:02

It is likely the US chose those sites as they knew there was nothing dangerous there in terms of active nuclear material so no radioactive fallout or global backlash. The BS about this making Israel or US safer is crap. Iran will respond just like any country in its position if it were attacked like this especially before waiting for negotiations to take place. When Iran responds Israel and by default US will say “Look, Iran is attacking us,” to then justify further aggression. It’s a provocation disguised as self-defence. The world is not a safer place despite the BS of corrupt and morally bankrupt leaders like Trump and Netanyahu.

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