The US has bombed Fordow and other sites.

Clearly you dont understand how live instagram videos work. They are taken, live, whislt the event is happening.

Feel free to follow people on the ground in Palestine and youll come across many live videos!

Why are you asking me for a solution?

Iran have been very clear what their aim is - the destruction of the State of Israel. They persecute Christians as well.

https://www.iranintl.com/en/202402207730

Iran is a pariah state with a homicidal agenda that can't be reasoned with.

Maybe you can post these live instagram videos you claim to have seen?

Or at least give a link?

That would be useful.

So what do you propose as a solution? Do you genuinely believe these strikes will be effective in weakening Iran’s influence—or are they more likely to harden positions, escalate regional tensions, and push Iran’s nuclear ambitions further underground?

Funny I remember seeing live instagram videos of this event the israel claim was a stray missile by Hamas. Many many bodies ripped apart. Funny how people are so quick to support a genocidal entity when its on their side!

I did see a lawyer for Israel saying, in the UK Parliament, that the West was encouraging terrorists a while back (youtube is the source).... Now I was well appalled and angry at that. And it was after I had read Netanyahu's "what is wrong with that?" about arming "groups" in Gaza. I am still furious about that!

I would also like to add that I do not think Netanyahu is really working in Israel's interest, at all. He thinks so and he has a big funclub. He definitively could not care less about any other country. But if he, really and deeply, wanted the best for Israel's future, he would have been debating with Palestinians how to sort their States, once and for all. And being a good neighbour in ME, since a long time ago. So long ago that it would be settled by now. But not fir him. He has, instead, jeopardised every step towards peace, nevermind who or what he has to bomb or step on.

There is a huge amount of anti Israel propaganda out there which is full of things that are untrue or twisted. What is very clear however is Iran is our arch enemy and means us harm here in the UK and I hope MI5 is doing its job to track the enemies in our midst.

I fully agree. Really it is not an easy to misunderstand word. For both sides.
They are pathetic. That is what they are.

I'd like to see where your figures came from?

Do you remember that Hamas put out the information that Israel had bombed a hospital and killed 500 people?
In actual fact it was a stray rocket that they had fired themselves that fell in the hospital car park denting the ground and damaging a couple of cars.

As I said "propaganda".

The 100s of 1000s of deaths and injuries are across Gaza, the West Bank, Lebanon, Yemen, Syria, Iran. All of the places Israel have been attacking over the past 21months. Taking Israels figures if their conflict with Iran kept up for a year that would be almost 100,000 injuries in Israel and you are doubting that more than this has occurred across multiple countries who have had large bombs repeatedly dropped on them?

What propaganda? You don't think 100s of 1000s of people across Gaza, the West Bank, Syria, Lebanon, Iran, have been killed or injured by Israel? Israel say that in just 12 days of their conflict with Iran 28 people were killed and over 3000 injured and you are doubting that in 21months Israel have killed or injured 100s of 1000s over multiple territories?

So you are saying that Israel is causing 100's of thousands of deaths and injuries?

Where are these 100's of thousands of deaths being caused?

To repeat what I posted earlier. This anti-Israel propaganda is meant to be very emotional which causes people to not think critically.

Ah yeah, sure if a terrorist group are doing it we should just ignore Western governments colluding with a sovereign state bombing all around them and causing 100s of 1000s of deaths and injuries.

The problem with this conflict is that a ton of effort is going into spreading fake anti-Israel propaganda. This anti-Israel propaganda is meant to be very emotional which causes people to not think critically.

Gaza's population has grown by 22,771 in the last year, which represents a 2.84%+ annual change. So for a "Genocide" it isn't very effective.

And Hamas are committing atrocities against their own people and no-one seems to be bothered

Palestine Action are idiots doing that to the planes but let’s not get it twisted as to who the real villains are. Red paint on a plane or genocide, I know which is is which.

Palestine Action tried to sabotage an RAF aeroplane - that's treason because it's working against the elected government. (Stupidly those zealots didn't realise that the plane was being used to deliver aid to Gaza. So you can blame Palestine Action if starving people miss out on some aid drops.)

"migrants are not a threat to civilisation unless you’re a giant racist".

So why is the government going to draw up "league tables" of crimes by different nationalities, unless there is a problem?

https://unherd.com/newsroom/britain-is-long-overdue-a-migrant-crime-league-table/

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/why-labour-is-finally-publishing-migrant-crime-league-tables/

It's nothing new though, is it? Israel have been breaking international law for years and none of their western supporters have withdrawn support no matter what they have done.

Sometimes it's hard to know if the half hearted condemnation they occasionally receive is real or just theatre. I could even believe that Trumps apparent fury is just more misdirection. We know that when he stated he was undecided about whether the US would launch strikes on Iran that the attack had been decided and plans were being made.

If Trump really is angry then I would expect pressure will be applied to make him toe the line and he will be making excuses for Israel before the end of the day, probably a lie about intelligence indicating a renewed threat from Iran.

His strong reaction is because he is embarrassed, his ego has been hit. He knows he has been played. He dropped the bombs for Netanyahu and Netanyahu couldn't give a shit about him and gives nothing in return. The Israeli government looks out for Israel end of, there are no allies just countries they use to achieve their aims. Look at how quick they were to accuse the UK government of being terrorist supporters and tried to blackmail them with more West Bank annexation if the UK recognised Palestine. Toe the line or the Israeli government will smear your name and turn on you quicker than a rabid dog.

Palestine action are hardly traitors, what absurd language.
migrants are not a threat to civilisation unless you’re a giant racist.

I'm anticipating a false flag.

To see him condemning Israel for unloading bombs ‘like he’s never seen before’ one hour after the ceasefire, for a single stray missile, one hopes the penny has dropped, he’s been played like a fiddle by Netanyahu.

Trump is not happy about the ceasefire being broken. He drops an F bomb at 3.18 to express his frustration. I think he's more bothered about alienating his MAGA base but it will be interesting to see how Israel responds to his unequivocal, public condemnation.

https://www.youtube.com/live/7mCQHeXq1Mg?si=DLJt2eKR0AUd67Vm

@Porridgepuddingdo you mean Iran should develop nuclear weapons if that’s their wish?