The US has bombed Fordow and other sites.

Previously, I was genuinely interested in your opinion as to why you are so worried about the nuclear threat from Iran. I asked why this was and what information you were relying upon to have formed this view. You couldn't name one person. You have also stated that regime change isn't wanted, without stating that you actually mean that this is the statement that the US have issued today (which I'm sure many of us are aware of). You don't seem to have considered the consequences of this attack. If you have, you haven't stated any of them.
I hope that is clear enough now.

Can you quote where I did that? What are you on about?

I should be asking you what you're on about supporting a murderous terrorist sponsoring regime.

Whilst well intentioned, the solution isn't to do nothing because that will lead to bigger issues later down the line. As I said Trump gave Iran many opportunities to reach a deal and they refused.

And you do? 😂

As I said I wish this can be sorted out peacefully but unfortunately that's up to the Iranian regime.

Even Iranians are against the evil regime that you are supporting and trying to protect.

You don't care what atrocities the regime commits against Iranians as long as you can pretend you care.

I have no idea what you're going on about, the strikes were very precise against the nuclear facilities, no one was killed.

And yes I have regard for people living their lives in countries like Iran just as I also have regard for people trying to live their lives in countries affected by the Iranian regime. Yeah let's allow the Ayatollah who has declared that he hates the US, Israel the west and wants to attack them to have a nuclear weapon. That's makes absolute sense right?

Did you have the same regard for the people who were killed by Hamas in an attack funded by Iran? The many people killed by Hezbollah, Hamas and the Houthis all funded by Iran? You do realize that Iran has caused the death of many people in the Middle East as well and this is not just an issue with the US or Israel? There are middle eastern countries who also oppose Iran having a nuclear weapon because it will destabilize the delicate balance in the middle east. Once Iran gets a nuclear weapon Saudi Arabia have also declared that they will pursue one too so this is not joey about Iran.

You do realize that Iran played a huge role supporting Assad in Syria to brutalize his own people???? You sit here portraying the Iranian regime like a peace seeking loving regime, they are murderous terrorist sponsor government who suppress and brutalize their own citizens and have no issue organizing attacks to kill their enemies or disrupting commercial shopping through the use of the Houthis.

Are you aware of Iran's role disrupting life in Yemen with their support and funding of the Houthis?

It's interesting how many people are supportive of the evil Iranian regime.

So yes I have regard for them and wish this can be sorted out peacefully but unfortunately that's easier said than done. If all it took was to virtue signal on mumsnet we would have world peace now wouldn't we?

Trump gave Iran many opportunities to come to the table and they kept stonewalling so this is all on the murderous evil Iranian regime and yes the world is a better place without their nuclear capabilities.

Well stop then. Listen to playback and get the names you’re after.

You haven't listed one single person. I have suggested two and you were dismissive.
There has been no engagement, just repetitive statements.

I’m not listing the ten or so people all giving decent opinions today.

You have playback I assume, turn on the radio and have a listen.

I don't block out information. You haven't given any information at all and haven't been able to name a single expert when asked more than once. I do listen to UK media too, as well as other sources, btw.

@Ilovelifeverymuch @GentleSheep

I find it appalling that people like you in the West have absolutely no regard for ordinary people in the Middle East. They too are just going about living their lives and trying to raise their families, despite the difficulties of whatever governments they live under.

Worst of all, we have just seen the dissemination of the Palestinians and their lives, their cities and towns. Do you wish this upon more chaos, destruction and death on more people and children to make a point that our leaders have more military power than theirs?

It’s from the US. You won’t believe anything up to you.

I don’t see the point in continuing as you block out all information bar some confirmation bias. No BBC or other radio, no commentators that might bring further insight.

Many are concerned only a few on mn so far seem certain it’s not a problem, which is what you seem to be concluding. Fine, do that then.

What a pathetic cop out.
Do let us know whose opinions we should be listening to. Perhaps they are genuinely worth listening to or perhaps not.

Best post on the thread! Though there have also been some interesting and informative posts from a few people. (Not including the dishonest ones)

So how would you characterise your ' I don't think regime change is wanted' statement?

You haven't engaged at all. You have just said, repeatedly, that you are very worried about the threat of Iran's nuclear missile program. You haven't explained why. You have ignored many posters telling you that there are no nuclear weapons at present nor any evidence that Iran is trying to acquire them. You haven't responded to how this should be eliminated or what further steps Israel/the US would need to take to ensure this.
You really don't need to respond. I am not asking you too.

If you were posting in good faith I would ;)

I think you meant to say 'in your opinion'.
Perhaps you can expand upon why you think the opinions of those two men are 'deceptive and misleading' and who you prefer to reply on for your information.

Can you respond without the usual ‘jolly naive’ stuff?

If you can I’ll engage otherwise it’s just more of the same, I don’t see your posts as more informed tbh.

Well if that's where you get your opinions from no wonder they are so very deceptive and misleading.

Do you think a resumption of drilling in the N Sea will counteract the high oil prices and economic destruction if the Iranians do close the Straits of Hormuz? That seems to be what you are suggesting.

I agree with your first sentence. I did say that and then I popped back and saw your jolly naive comment 'I don't think regime change is wanted' so was tempted back, probably foolishly!

Yes, I have listened to several media outlets, etc today.
The US has said they don't want regime change but since when does anyone with sense believe everything that the US says?!
I posted this clip twice on the other thread about the peace loving president who has just attacked Iran. The peace loving didn't last long did it?
https://x.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1850654992975454219

Israel, who is a key country involved in this wants regime change, has done for decades and also to kill all the Iranian leaders. Exactly what the US's involvement will be going forwards, no one can predict but it's very clear that this conflict is far from over.

This.

@mrsrtobinson ”Strait of Hormuz is a vast and natural waterway over 30 kilometres wide at its narrowest point. Iran controls only the northern half of the Strait. The southern half is under the control of Oman, ”

30km is nothing to an anti-ship missile though, and Iran has a coast the whole length of the Persian Gulf. Iran also has a reasonable submarine fleet capable of mine laying. Would be unlikely to torpedo anything though, as that would lead to their location and sudden demise.
So, Iran can quite easily close the Straits.

They should pull out of everywhere they have their scummy fingers in, in the entire global south.