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My dad hurt my son

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CleverQuacks · 21/06/2025 19:30

I really need some advice. It’s quite a complex situation. I have 4 children. My 10 year old has autism and other learning difficulties. He portrays very challenging behaviour and can lash out (not hurting people but throwing things, shouting etc). This is particularly difficult at the moment as his school placement has broken down and he isn’t in school so has no routine and is bored. We are fighting the council about this (a whole other post).

Anyway we were at my parents house today because it is my daughter’s birthday and we were having a bbq. It came time to leave and my son becomes distressed (transitions are difficult). He was shouting and throwing things. I was standing in the door to the room he was in and talking calmly. He then went to throw a small plastic children's chair so I stepped in to remove it. My dad then came behind me, grabbed his arm and twisted it, causing him to fall sideways onto the bed next to him. He also cried out in pain. I told my dad to leave the room, which he did. I calmed my son and we came home.

I am in bits that my father hurt my son. Growing up my dad was the most gentle man. Never laid a finger on me and rarely shouted. Ironically he also used to look after adults with special needs so he should understand!! I have noticed he is getting more short tempered as he is getting older (65) but never thought this would happen.

I need to protect my son but at the same time I am scared of losing my main support network. I am a single parent with complex mental health difficulties with no friends so my parents and my sister are all I have.

How do I manage this? I feel so broken

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CleverQuacks · 21/06/2025 20:42

Thank you. I will look at it

Did you talk to your dad OP? Did things work out?

UniqueRedSquid · 22/06/2025 21:42

I appreciate this was probably very unpleasant but you have known your Dad your entire lifetime. If you know his character then I would be careful not to make a mountain out of a molehill.

I would gently explain that’s neither an acceptable or effective way to deal with your son’s behaviour.

If he repeats it then I’d have a more serious reaction.

If anybody else was at risk of harm then a physical reaction would unfortunately be appropriate.

Aimtodobetter · 22/06/2025 21:21

CleverQuacks · 21/06/2025 19:46

Thank you for your replies. I will need to have a conversation with my dad but just wanted other opinions first so I know what I am saying.

There is just this niggling feeling in my gut that he meant to hurt/frighten my son and I am a firm believer that you don’t parent children with fear.

I agree you don’t parent a child with fear but nothing in your post suggests this is what your dad is trying to do. Is it possible your own mental health issues you refer to are making you read more into this incident than you should? On the face of it this is a situation in which a caring man with based on your account a fantastic history of parenting steps in and slightly overreacts - nothing suggests active malice.

Sassybooklover · 22/06/2025 21:15

I think your Dad reacted on instinct, he saw your child about to throw a plastic chair, and you stepped in to try and stop your son. Your Dad saw his daughter potentially being hurt by a chair being thrown by his grandson. He grabbed your son, to stop him from hurting you, his paternal instinct kicked in, to protect you. You need to think about what strategies can be put into place to help your son. He's getting older, and he's also getting bigger and stronger. He clearly can't regulate his emotions and doesn't like it when something he's enjoying has to stop. You not only need to keep him safe, but equally yourself, your son's siblings but also other people. You need to talk to your Dad too.

beadystar · 22/06/2025 20:58

You are your dad’s child. And it was his house. He may have reacted to a pre teen child smashing it up and hurting you in the process.
This opens a conversation about what you are going to have to do when your violent child is too big to be restrained easily. Not easy op.

RobertJohnsonsShoes · 22/06/2025 20:14

in the nicest possible way you need to better manage your sons behaviour, and make sure that all adults in the family are aware of how best to manage when he gets distressed.

ive been in your fathers position and while I’ve never put my hands on a child in the family, it’s really upsetting not knowing what best to do to prevent the risk of harm to them and or others

StrawberryShakez · 22/06/2025 19:49

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DahliaBlooming · 21/06/2025 21:30

Not defending or excusing your Dad's actions, but it could be that he automatically / unthinkingly reacted to protect his daughter

ThisKindAmberLemur · 21/06/2025 20:57

Hi

Apologies if this is inappropriate, but is it stinking hot where you are and was everyone just generally struggling? It's not an excuse, but could provide an opener to a conversation.

CleverQuacks · 21/06/2025 20:42

KurtShirty · 21/06/2025 20:41

I post this link maybe once a week on this site, this organisation saved me and my DC. I’m sure they could help you, they are specialists and offer a different and imo much more helpful perspective/ parental coaching to deal with aggressive behaviour

https://capafirstresponse.org/how-neurodiversity-affects-child-to-parent-aggression/

Thank you. I will look at it

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MsCactus · 21/06/2025 20:42

I actually think your dad responded appropriately if your DC was about to throw a chair - he could have seriously harmed someone. Your Dad prevented that

KurtShirty · 21/06/2025 20:41

I post this link maybe once a week on this site, this organisation saved me and my DC. I’m sure they could help you, they are specialists and offer a different and imo much more helpful perspective/ parental coaching to deal with aggressive behaviour

https://capafirstresponse.org/how-neurodiversity-affects-child-to-parent-aggression/

How neurodiversity affects child to parent aggression

How Neurodiversity affects Child-to-Parent Aggression - Capa First Response

When we think about child against parent aggression (CAPA), it’s easy to focus only on the behaviour we can see: the shouting, the physical aggression, the

https://capafirstresponse.org/how-neurodiversity-affects-child-to-parent-aggression

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OldJohn · 21/06/2025 20:12

I agree with this. You need to be teaching your son what is acceptable behaviour and what is unacceptable. Throwing a chair is not acceptable.

I also agree. You need to teach some consequences. It’s not his fault or yours about the challenging needs, but it’s not a get out of jail free card.

CleverQuacks · 21/06/2025 20:21

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there is no point reprimanding my son whilst he is screaming and shouting cos he is so distressed that nothing goes in.

i am trained in restraint for work so on really bad outbursts I will hold him but I didn’t feel that was necessary this time.

once he is calm we always talk about how we could have managed it better and then he gets a consequence.

I don’t know any other way

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OldJohn · 21/06/2025 20:12

getsomehelp · 21/06/2025 19:57

Your son was throwing a chair in GP’s house with other people around
I think your Dad responded by instinct.
What happens when your son gets older & stronger ? He can smash up anything or anyone …
Your son should apologise to his Grandfather

I agree with this. You need to be teaching your son what is acceptable behaviour and what is unacceptable. Throwing a chair is not acceptable.

RoseofRoses · 21/06/2025 20:12

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dimples76 · 21/06/2025 20:10

I think it's more likely that your Dad used more force than necessary because he was in protective mode and the adrenaline was pumping rather than that he was trying to punish your boy. My learning disabled son can be violent and I know that my Mum really struggles when she sees him go for me. I have also occasionally found in defending myself or DD that I have inadvertently hurt him. Although he would also blame me if he hurt himself trying to attack me. Fortunately these episodes have become less frequent. Hope that things get easier soon and be kind to yourself

CleverQuacks · 21/06/2025 20:09

Thank you for all your comments.

I know my son can’t be allowed to throw things forever but if anyone has any idea on how I can stop him? We have family support, paediatrician and CAMHS involved. We are trying our best.

I will talk to my dad. I need a few days to pull myself together and work out what I want to say.

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AbzMoz · 21/06/2025 20:09

Intent to hurt and intent to frighten are two different things.
I think frightening / shocking into pausing or stopping a harmful action in a safe way (sounds like this was fairly well calculated given your child landed on a bed) is sometimes necessary. Intent to maliciously hurt is clearly not. From time to time there may be scenarios where some physical overpowering done in a safe way may be needed, but this is not the same as intentional physical harm or hitting as a punishment.

Barnbrack · 21/06/2025 20:07

Canshehavewaferthinham · 21/06/2025 20:05

This.
He can't just expect no consequences. Your dad was protecting you.

I suspect the problem is in those moments of impulsiveness when dysregulated previous consequences rarely change the outcome. It's gradually learning to manage it.

JustAnInchident · 21/06/2025 20:07

JLou08 · 21/06/2025 19:51

If your dad is usually gentle towards children then I would think he was attempting to remove the risk of your child hurting you but had gone in too heavy handed. 10 year olds with Learning Disabilities/Autism can be incredibly strong, your dad may have just reacted to fear that someone was going to be seriously injured.

I’m thinking along the same lines as this to be honest op. Of course you know him best and were there to read the situation but it doesn’t sound like purposely hurting kids is in your dad’s nature generally.

Cam1981 · 21/06/2025 20:06

CleverQuacks · 21/06/2025 19:46

Thank you for your replies. I will need to have a conversation with my dad but just wanted other opinions first so I know what I am saying.

There is just this niggling feeling in my gut that he meant to hurt/frighten my son and I am a firm believer that you don’t parent children with fear.

I think you should be more worried about your sons behaviour then your dads response

MyCyanReader · 21/06/2025 20:05

Your dad came in to see someone about to hurt you and restrained them.

If he is normally calm and gentle then it does come across as he was trying to protect you.

I have a child with autism and I have absolutely grabbed his arm and moved it behind his back to prevent him lashing out at his siblings. He may not be able to help lashing out but I do have the responsibility to keep the others safe from harm.

Canshehavewaferthinham · 21/06/2025 20:05

getsomehelp · 21/06/2025 19:57

Your son was throwing a chair in GP’s house with other people around
I think your Dad responded by instinct.
What happens when your son gets older & stronger ? He can smash up anything or anyone …
Your son should apologise to his Grandfather

This.
He can't just expect no consequences. Your dad was protecting you.

tripleginandtonic · 21/06/2025 20:05

What will you say when your son beats you to the chair and throws it and it hits you? What will you do in a couple of years time when he is bigger and stronger than you? Autism isn't an excuse, he's old enough not to throw things and to remove himself from a situation when he can't handle it.
I think your dad wanted to avoid anyone getting seriously hurt.