Ratio of men to women in china

DD2 did her dissertation for her degree on the failure of the one child policy in China.

Her OH is coincidentally from mainland China, and we see the consequences of it within their family over here.

Or is that because learning English was seen as useful to boys but not girls?

The OCP in and of itself was not misogynist nor a particularly terrible thing to do to girls. It was the way in which many, many individuals reacted to the OCP that was horrendous for girls.

It was also a stupid, short-sighted policy for all the reasons that led to its reversal

Yes but China is not one country, one class, one ethnic group, one city vs countryside vs mountain vs periphery group of people. You can’t generalise.

I wonder what will happen in Afghanistan as women are treated so poorly many more will die of ill health and in pregnancy & childbirth.

Interestingly it happens as a quirk. I will add for balance. when my daughter was in school kindergarten in the uk (Scottish village) she became the 2nd girl in a class of 17!

Yes I imagine mainland China is different because of legal environment. I wrote a paper on the one child policy due to my experiences. Too much to write about here….

That disparity is huge. I taught EFL in Taiwan in the 90s and my main class had 12 boys and four girls. Other teachers had similar mixes in their classes.

My son was in kindergarten in China. In his class of 30, 2 were female. That kind of disparity is neither natural or sustainable. Awful.

The most depressing thing is that at the time we saw this policy as an abhorrent, and yet it was reversed because the government was worried of the consequences of an aging population. And now the population are against it because their precious boys can’t get wed and pass on the family name…not because it was a fucking sick thing to do to the girls. Even the outrage is powered by misogyny

Not quite sure what you want from this thread, op, it’s a well-known and expected consequence of one-child policy and misogyny. Men actually commit the crimes that feminism has been accused of too, killing girl babies in large numbers around the world. I’d like to see the results @ZImono mentions but share her scepticism.

Completely anecdotal, I am noticing that immigrants here seem to produce many more male children than female. It’s been puzzling me for a while. Is anyone else noticing that, or is it just that the male youngsters are more visible on the streets? I see them going to school though.

There are about 100 million females missing from the global population. Sadly it isn't just about sex scans etc. It is prioritising males for food and medicine over females and in some areas, femicide.

This also isn't just China. The last count it was 100 million missing it is estimated to be about 120 million missing now.

Would be interesting to see if scarcity of "females" (said in the voice of.martin from Friday night dinner) results in the men of China upping their game in any way.

Carrying more mental load
Aiming higher in terms of treatment of their partner
Doing more in the home
Generally being "higher quality" and offering more to women

Edit: given some are kidnapping women... apparently not.
This makes for a depressing read.

Im Chinese.
Ive seen it.

Yes, Northern Vietnam and other places, kidnapping has increasing. Horrifying.

I believe the problem in China is women are preferring to stay single:

https://www.scmp.com/opinion/china-opinion/article/3273449/put-ring-it-chinese-women-dont-need-marriage-any-more

Most of the article is behind a paywall, but the headline speaks for itself! Chinese women see no need to put up with gender discrimination - pregnancy, childcare, working and doing most of the housework….They are better off staying single!

Unsurprisingly the shortage of a commodity - in this case, women of marriageable age - creates a market. I think I first read of this at least a decade ago.

https://www.hrw.org/news/2019/10/31/chinas-bride-trafficking-problem

I wonder if this means Chinese men are more helpful around the house than European men and have fewer domestic related arguments??

It’s always the man that owns three pairs of socks and a copy of grand theft auto that is afraid of gold diggers 🤣

Does anyone know what it's like for the women??

They do they have a huge choice???

Are they finding it very easy to find partners?

Do they still have the stigma if they don't get married?

Are they finding they get harassed by single men??

Are they finding they feel more empowered because they have a greater choice??

Im not sure how much financial freedom, choices and independence there is for people is communist China. Especially less well off people.

I dont think anyone from a western society can understand just how culturally different China is. It is so ingrained in the people.

Checked on wikepedia one part said more funding was given to girls education. So likely it would have bought them more financial independence. Which would have given them greater choices.

Where does it say the men are complaining?

It’s always the one with not a pot to piss in who obsessed about gold diggers.

Yet they don’t have the same energy for the brethren the cock lodgers.

Also, since the one child policy was removed there hasnt been a reversal of women having more children.
I did read something on this some time ago, it said that chinese women viewed the reversal with suspicion. However, and not being an expert on China, maybe due to the long period the OCP wss in place for a cultural change took place. Maybe women liked the freedom of possibly havong greater financial freedom, choices possibly to have more independence? Find it slightly amusing that their plans to limit womens choices of the number of chdren they have (male decision mainly?) Hasnt suddenly reverted when they now desire it to.