To think all MNers hate men?

if that was true, (and it isn't) it would only mean that men are more organised or more efficient.

Why would they magically have more time?

I think MN is a place where many find they can be honest about how they feel

and there are too many men who are not particularly good people

and that is what is being expressed on here

YABU and you know you are for using the word ‘ALL’.

I don’t love or hate anyone. Ime, there are more men that have been polite to me than have been mean to me. Have some been imbeciles and have I felt unsafe, absolutely, doesn’t mean I hate them or that I can’t point out bad, hypocritical, and/or ignorant behaviour and the same goes for women.

So say no and take your free time from day one don't change it when you have a baby hand baby to him express and take a break.

But why then do you believe its in the male gene or is it upbringing? Do we step back and allow it subconsciously? I do think the current breast feeding attitude is now pushing men away from doing childcare and many women are pushing men away ....
Men pushed out because it's easier to feed if you co sleep so he's in another room seems common. Women taking a years maternity leave (not saying I don't agree with it) leaves a year when many are not expecting men to step up at home. Rather than it be you've both had a hard day let's pull together now I'm home it seems many have turned into stepford wives feeling they have to do it all.
You absolutely have the right to expect equal work life balance at home.
We should be promoting it in our children but how many our encouraging them to do domestic duties like cooking from early teens? On mn we have mums fretting about packing their adults clothes and checking they have everything for holidays. Yet they are supposed to be capable adults with kids in a few years later.

My point is, you’re not actually seeing what IS, but what you want to be true.

Men exploit women.

those women who have free time have raced through ‘their’ jobs to free up space. The men just … have free time, for cycling, gym, whatever. A cock is a magic wand.

So why do so many women allow themselves to carry an unfair domestic share? Do we not empower our daughter's to say no I'm not doing it all? Does the current pressure to breast feed for asap keep us chained to the home and domestic duties because we feel the men are out at work and we don't value childcare duties enough? On here loads of mums say but I don't mind I'm home all day while he's working but when I go back he will need to step up.

Wow....do you have a son,?

I only hate the arseholes. Sadly there are quite a lot of them.

It’s a massive sweeping generalisation to say everyone on MN hates men. A lot of the criticism of men on MN is perfectly valid. What I would say is that the same biting critical analysis is rarely applied in the same way to women, who can quite easily be truly awful.

it's funny how it's always women who are actually abusive.
No man is ever calling me "an idiot" or at idiot-level of denial when I disagree with him 😂

don’t get bored or offended when the woman stops massaging their ego
someone is projecting big time.

Men don’t have to be rapists or domestic abusers to abuse women I don't know anyone who is being abused, and couples going away for the weekend seem to be sharing their free time fairly equally.

I do pity you for having such a sad view of the world. That's not my experience

If you look at the data, and the anecdotal evidence on MN for eg, and the evidence of your own eyes about how many men you know who actually split the life load 50/50 and don’t get bored or offended when the woman stops massaging their ego because she has small humans who need that attention more, and you still think it’s ‘a few individuals’ - you are at idiot-levels of denial.

Men don’t have to be rapists or domestic abusers to abuse women. It’s in what they don’t do as much as what they do.

We’re all trained to not see it.

It’s batshit mostly as the op, a mner, is saying she doesn’t hate men whilst simultaneously asking if all mners hate men.

there is an incredible amount of man-haters on MN that's true

I don't meet such anger and bitterness in real life - thank god

Don't be ridiculous, OP.

Talk about a sweeping generalisation 🙄

Most of us are in a relationship with one and many of us birthed sons.

Just a batshit statement to make.

As with all ridiculous generalisation on here, YABU to say 'ALL'.

Of course we don't.

I acknowledge there are a fair few people on here who come across like that, but to conclude 'all MNers hate men' from those people is just ridiculous.

They do get very angry when you point out 'not all men' on any of their threads though

I think I'd dislike them less if I was a lesbian.

Just thinking of how cringe men are when they want sex. And they want women. The way the sometimes act to try and attract us. It's like 'Bro, are you MAD?!'
I feel like they need us more than we need them. And some of them can't really handle it.

But I love some of them and it's not their fault they were born male. I'd fucking hate to be a bloke.

That’s truly something I’ve not seen on Mumsnet. I find posters are just as hard and often harsher on women who have been abusive or cheated or whatever, I genuinely don’t have that experience on here of there being bias, quite the opposite in fact.

I'm picturing man haters like this unhappy woman. Joe, being perfectly polite until she pulled a Karen by demanding he look in her in the eye, soon put her back in her box.

In real life, most women don't look at men like they're part of a different species and a danger to women, because MEN.

How many times will someone pip up on here "women don't realise how much men hate them"? Sorry but what?

It's not the usual nonsense "not all men", it's that a few individuals don't define a group. Some people love to see the men as "the enemy" and fancy themselves living in a dystopian Handmaid'Tale nightmare, in real life, it doesn't happen.

Some countries are backwards, but talking about the countries most posters come from? Nonsense.

This is spot on.

I don't hate men. But, I will say, I have become so despondent and disappointed with them. It is really appalling to see - now that we have social media - how their entitlement plays out, how little they try to understand the lives of the women they live next to every day. How much harm they do to women and nobody gives a shit. I feel sorry for everyone who is harmed by patriarchy (that's most of us, men included) but I am utterly fed up with men's general lack of self-education on the subject.

I have good men in my life but their lack of imagination about how things are for women is kind of bleak. I also have not good men in my life, in that I was brought up with a lot of covert misogyny, and I only have ongoing contempt for them tbh.

Must be easy to be funny when you’re unburdened by the everyday drudge of relentless housework, life admin and child rearing. Not to mention free from worrying about being bothered whilst going about your day to day activities and being paid as much as the next man for doing the same job (to name but a few).
I don’t hate men by any stretch but women, on the whole, are better.

I love men, but I don't believe in keeping one at all cost.

I can also acknowledge that men do very bad things to everyone.

@Corriganscans "Of course I don’t like all women but as a group they are not seen as negatively as men (for good reason imo)"

So you've basically answered your own question. You're saying that men are seen in a more negative light than women, for good reason in your opinion. That kind of defeats the whole object of your post doesn't it?